BadMofoPimp wrote:Shady Franchise wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
Prince played in times when defense was focus of every team, league average during his prime was well below 100 points. PPG total, per team saw around 15ppg boost from that early 2000s.
But even with overall stat inflatation, it's still hard to imagine player like Isaac going to 20 ppg because it requires a lot more than just shooting wide open jumpers ( and that's what he is doing now ) ,with occasional transition points.
RIght now 1/3 of all his points are wide open 3s ( closest defender not closer than 4 feet ).
It will require huge improvment in his game ( ballhandling, decision making, playing with ball ) to come anwhere near 20 points.
We saw with Gordon how that things simply don't come easy to players who don't have natural gift for offense.
To this day, after 2 full seasons, Isaac never averaged 14 ppg during long period of time (13,7 during 11 games is closest to that), let alone anything above that.
TIme will tell but i don't think you are having realistic expetations for somebody who's career tragjectory looks similar to Ibaka, and if Magic are lucky ,can end up looking like Siakam ( similar build, guy had offensive explosion this year )
Kirilenko thing is interesting , guy had odd career, peaked at age of 22. He is probably best example why fans shouldn't hold their breath about untapped potential and why it's impossible to project careers, but that's story and topic for another day.
If i want to guess, i assume Isaac in his 25-27 ( basically new prime for most players now) will average around 13-15 ppg, 7-8 rpg, 1,8 -2,0 bpg and be treat from outside. But i don't see transending star or allstar. Useful role player.
Looks very similar to the stats I posted earlier today comparing him to Manning. I believe Manning even had a couple of years in the 20 PPG scoring range, so this comp can please everyone.
I am more of the mind of a zero chance in hell Slim makes 20ppg. People make it seem easy for players to reach that 20ppg milestone. It took Vooch years to get there and he is a very good offensive talent. Slim isn't even close to Vooch talent offensively, does not have good handles and does not create his own shot. I say 16ppg tops. But, scoring won't be the determing factor if he is a great player or not. It will be his defense and team play which will make him great, not his scoring. Players like Slim are great role players on Championship teams like Tayshaun was, not the top scoring player on a team.
This is such a silly conversation. He could average 20 points per game right now if that were the purpose of our organization.
Box score numbers and per game averages mean very little without context. Two players could post almost identical lines while playing completely different brands of basketball. Further, one could be highly efficient while the other a significant liability to his team.