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Regular Season Game 68: Orlando Magic (31-36) at Memphis Grizzlies (27-40)

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Re: Regular Season Game 68: Orlando Magic (31-36) at Memphis Grizzlies (27-40) 

Post#261 » by ChosenSavior » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:30 am

Actually still have a chance to move up in the draft lottery a bit. A somewhat silver lining lol.

In any event, I'm watching this with an open mind. Would love to see this team in the postseason no doubt but if we have a chance to add talent to this roster with a lottery pick, then so be it. This roster still needs a lot of work. At least it seems we have finally found our head coach to lead us.
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Post#262 » by 3ddman23 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:30 am

FFBlitzace wrote:When we were up 7, no real team loses the game from that spot. They just don't. For us, it's not even a fluke. It's a matter of course. You're more surprised when we win from that spot than when we lose.



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Post#263 » by j-ragg » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:30 am

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j-ragg wrote:Still can’t believe the wide open Conley jumper.
Why are you surprised that's our M.O.


Someone on this board pointed out that the worst shot in the NBA now is the long range 2 so Clifford tries to force guys into that shot. Still, Vooch sitting back giving no contest or close out seems ridiculously stupid - just low effort.

Not every long two is created equal. The other teams best player just hit two free throws and gets that wide open jumper. It might be on Cliff and not Vuc but we’ve seen Vuc’s defensive effort for years and it leaves something to be desired.
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Re: Regular Season Game 68: Orlando Magic (31-36) at Memphis Grizzlies (27-40) 

Post#264 » by Bonafide89 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:30 am

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swarlesbarkley wrote:Now on the clock with the #14 pick in the 2019 NBA draft...
Thats where this team will be every year as soon as the center gets his extension and Ross. Can’t wait.
This one hurts. I'm glad Clifford got tossed. Enough is enough.

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Re: Regular Season Game 68: Orlando Magic (31-36) at Memphis Grizzlies (27-40) 

Post#265 » by FFBlitzace » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:31 am

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FFBlitzace wrote:Officiating was heinous but we could have won if we were better. Don't get me wrong, I'm irate at a lot of things, officiating included, but they're lower on the list. I'm mostly angry about the fact that we're just a bunch of losers who can't win big games when they're there for the taking.


1. Vuc taking 24 shots for 26 points
2. Midget PG that did nothing resembling running an offense besides passing to Vuc
3. Balding French man with 0 points at half who decided that he didn't want to play the 2nd
4. AG's back acting up again
5. Isaac jumping up and down at the three point line to try and get his midget PG to see him
6. Ross making mental errors down the stretch
7. Refs with same weak ass calls all game

Boy, if this game isn't high blood pressure inducing, I don't know what is.


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Re: Regular Season Game 68: Orlando Magic (31-36) at Memphis Grizzlies (27-40) 

Post#266 » by ChosenSavior » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:33 am

The play of DJ Augustin was so bad, I actually wouldn't had mind at all if Jerian Grant finished out the game tonight. Actually thought he played better than DJ. I pray that DJ is not our starting point guard next season. Can't take much more of his inconsistent play.
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Post#267 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:34 am

FFBlitzace wrote:When we were up 7, no real team loses the game from that spot. They just don't. For us, it's not even a fluke. It's a matter of course. You're more surprised when we win from that spot than when we lose.
You are always expecting a meltdown because most times that's what they do.
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Post#268 » by j-ragg » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:34 am

If we somehow make the playoffs it won’t be because we deserve it. Other teams schedules just were way tougher.
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Re: Regular Season Game 68: Orlando Magic (31-36) at Memphis Grizzlies (27-40) 

Post#269 » by FFBlitzace » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:35 am

FFBlitzace wrote:With the Grizzlies 8-9 at the line, it's worth noting that teams have been red hot from the free throw line against us this year. Before tonight, teams were 78.1% against us, which is the 4th highest number in the league. Never lucky.



In the "salt, lemon juice, and alcohol cocktail in the gaping wound" category, the Grizz made 28-31(90.3%) free throws tonight. So that already-high number is going up. Why can't we defend the free throw line? We're not making the loud fart noises at the right time.
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Post#270 » by MagicMatic » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:37 am

SOUL wrote:
FFBlitzace wrote:Officiating was heinous but we could have won if we were better. Don't get me wrong, I'm irate at a lot of things, officiating included, but they're lower on the list. I'm mostly angry about the fact that we're just a bunch of losers who can't win big games when they're there for the taking.


1. Vuc taking 24 shots for 26 points
2. Midget PG that did nothing resembling running an offense besides passing to Vuc
3. Balding French man with 0 points at half who decided that he didn't want to play the 2nd
4. AG's back acting up again
5. Isaac jumping up and down at the three point line to try and get his midget PG to see him
6. Ross making mental errors down the stretch
7. Refs with same weak ass calls all game

Boy, if this game isn't high blood pressure inducing, I don't know what is.


Team was 16-50 outside of the “offense” (Ross and Vuc).
Vuc was 10-24 and 1-6 from 3(!?). Isaac obviously not being involved much in the offense. Weird game, but this highlights the need for playmakers.
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Post#271 » by NotACat » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:38 am

We didn't execute down the stretch, but man, the refs KILLED us. Fournier didn't deserve to get tossed out and the officiating in the 4th was some of the worst I've ever seen.
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Post#272 » by OrlandO » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:38 am

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Post#273 » by OrlandoNed » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:38 am

This is what happens when you commit to a mediocre coach, a mediocre front office and a mediocre roster. Mediocre results. The only thing that wins in this league is overwhelming talent, anything less is a waste of time.
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Post#274 » by Bonafide89 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:38 am

ChosenSavior wrote:The play of DJ Augustin was so bad, I actually wouldn't had mind at all if Jerian Grant finished out the game tonight. Actually thought he played better than DJ. I pray that DJ is not our starting point guard next season. Can't take much more of his inconsistent play.
He has been solid all season. He's not a starting PG but he's been our starting PG all season. He has overachieved and so has this team. He's not the long term answer so he will be gone soon.

But I'm not gonna knock him too hard because him and TRoss are the two guys on this team, who whenever the ball releases their hands, it always looks like it's going in.

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Post#275 » by swarlesbarkley » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:41 am

j-ragg wrote:
swarlesbarkley wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:Why are you surprised that's our M.O.


Someone on this board pointed out that the worst shot in the NBA now is the long range 2 so Clifford tries to force guys into that shot. Still, Vooch sitting back giving no contest or close out seems ridiculously stupid - just low effort.

Not every long two is created equal. The other teams best player just hit two free throws and gets that wide open jumper. It might be on Cliff and not Vuc but we’ve seen Vuc’s defensive effort for years and it leaves something to be desired.


Oh, I agree. Vooch needs to close out on that shot specifically. Now if it's Delon Wright coming off a screen, maybe hang back.
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Post#276 » by zuppafly » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:42 am

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Post#277 » by Bonafide89 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:46 am

OrlandoNed wrote:This is what happens when you commit to a mediocre coach, a mediocre front office and a mediocre roster. Mediocre results. The only thing that wins in this league is overwhelming talent, anything less is a waste of time.
Clifford is the best coach we've had since Stan. Weltham have done a fine job so far. Yes, the roster is mediocre, but a lot of decisions will be made this offseason. Did anyone really think this team would be in the playoff hunt with Augustin as our starting PG?

Nearly everyone on this board was clamoring for IT to be signed, but you can see that he's nowhere near his peak self. Right now, DJ is the better player.

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Post#278 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:48 am

I mean when you're leading by 7 with 3 minutes left, you really should win, but things happen sometimes.

There's a reason why this is going to end up being like a 37 win team. That's better than they were, but they're still not all that talented of a group.
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Post#279 » by ChosenSavior » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:48 am

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ChosenSavior wrote:The play of DJ Augustin was so bad, I actually wouldn't had mind at all if Jerian Grant finished out the game tonight. Actually thought he played better than DJ. I pray that DJ is not our starting point guard next season. Can't take much more of his inconsistent play.
He has been solid all season. He's not a starting PG but he's been our starting PG all season. He has overachieved and so has this team. He's not the long term answer so he will be gone soon.

But I'm not gonna knock him too hard because him and TRoss are the two guys on this team, who whenever the ball releases their hands, it always looks like it's going in.

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Has definitely been a solid shooter and scorer this season which has always been his forte since entering the league. I just don't want him as our starting PG anymore due to his disadvantages on defense and inconsistent play overall which he has always had a problem with. Definitely fine with him as a backup PG though. This was just a frustrating game to watch him play where he had a hard time finding open teammates all game except for Vuc.
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Post#280 » by FFBlitzace » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:49 am

DJ is what he is. He's basically been at his maximum possible effectiveness this season and he's still not good enough. So that tells you the obvious, which is that he isn't a starting player on a good team. But we knew that. Because of the fact that he's been at or near maximum possible effectiveness this year, it's hard to really hate on him, but it's still rage inducing when he doesn't make basic point guard plays.


For many years now I thought, I thought, that I had really mellowed out. But behind the scenes, in the darkest recesses of my white cis male heart (so you know those recesses are pretty deep and dark), anger had been quietly festering. And now that we could actually make the playoffs if we weren't soft pieces of ass, these past few weeks of terrible losses after the ASG have had me so irate. Maybe moreso than I've ever been. I don't know that for a fact, since there's been a lot of red hot moments throughout the years. But the frustration and anger with this lunacy is really boiling over for me. Huge games we have to win and we've got Vucevic 10-24 and Fournier with the 0-fer ejection.
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