pepe1991 wrote::rof:
I'm hater yet you can't debunk ANYTHING i posted in negative fashing about him, so you lie, post flat out false data (
like NOLA record with him) , duck every single data that i post how trully medicore and bad he is, ignore that he was actually THE WORST nba pick& roll defender and other measurable- valuble stuff.
I don't need to debunk anything, because you're not addressing the time frame I've been talking about. When I said
a) I wasn't talking about his first few years, I was talking about the start of this year. something like 3 or 4 times now, you've responded by bringing 'facts' first from his 2 month stint in Phoenix, and now from the entire season this year. How have you not comprehended that I'm not talking about the season record with him?
So once again, we're back to trying to determine if:
a) you're an idiot
b) you're a troll
c) you're trying to misrepresent the data due to item a) or b)
d) all of the above
Classic pepe.
The time frame I'm talking about is the start of the season up until the 26th of January, when his 2nd long sustaining injury happened, and when 2 days later AD requested a trade which derailed that team's entire season. Prior to that, they were still a team that played like the playoffs were a possibility.
Ok?
From the 17th of October, up to the 26th of December.
As I've already shown you, the records over that time frame were 12-8 with Payton, 11-20 without him.
Oh, you're follow up 'fact', that he's the 'WORST PICK & ROLL DEFENDER'. Yeah... again, not from this season. You really struggle understanding that don't you. When I said "I'm talking about the start of this season", how did you interpret that as a discussion about his time in Phoenix? I just don't understand how you can be so dumb at comprehending such a simple thing.
But anyway,
here's a link to Payton's P&R numbers this season. The dude actually has some of the strongest P&R defensive numbers in the league this season. So in his most recent season and performance, on the most competitive team he's been a part of, he posts some top defensive numbers.
These are what you call facts, and they're facts relevant to the topic at hand - a topic I outlined when I engaged in the conversation early on. The topic isn't "how did Payton perform in Phoenix". The topic isn't "how has Payton been performing since AD demanded a trade and killed any remaining motivation that team had". The topic is "how was Payton performing to at the start of this season when NOLA was still being somewhat competitive".
pepe1991 wrote:Dude, talk about players not about me, this is basketball forum , not Pepe forum or BadHombre forum. Stick to a subject or gtfo or at least get off me. I have zero desire to fight you. We can talk about basketball, but you show zero interest in ever doing that. I'll just block you because this is pointless.
Don't talk to me about etiquette on the board. You behave like a troll, so I've called you out on it. Deal with it. Or try to have a proper discussion about basketball, not one full of your strawmans, inflammatory language and other childish nonsense.
The board is quite clearly sick of your schtick bro. They know how empty most of the trash you post is. Time for you to man up and start bringing something real to the table, or gtfo.