Skin wrote:BadMofoPimp wrote:Skin wrote:I don't think enough people here believe how much potential Bamba has or how fast he can fulfill it.
There's a total fear factor that we will not become a good team without Vuc.
Bamba will look a lot better next season on his own development but if we have a playmaking pg he will look even better.
You use the "Will" statement like it is a given. He could still end up Nerlens Noel. That is why you need a backup plan aka Vooch.
This is ridiculous. Noel can't shoot past his nose. He has no instinct for scoring. Bamba is way more capable offensively. ...and Bamba is waaaaaay longer. Noel has a 7'4" wingspan... Bamba is 7'10"!!!
Any FA vet willing to take a 2 year with a 3rd year Team Option deal will do. INCLUDING VOOCH.
I'm all in if Vuc will sign that kind of deal. It could be 2 year, $75M for all I care. I just don't want him here long enough that he'll be in the way of Bamba starting by his 3rd year. Make that 3rd year declining to around $15M which will be tradeable in the 3rd season and we can dump him by the deadline.
Noel can't shoot but at least he is aware of it. Bamba can't shoot yet shoots, witch hurts his value as a player.
There is no objective reason why somebody who shoots 57% FTs and 30% for 3 ( and around 30% from mid range in general ) should attemp shots outside 3 feet.
20 out of 21 of his 3 points made was assisted and not a single one was contested ,witch says a lot about him being offensive weapon or treat. Defense simply ignores him.
Noel is smaller but much faster and always had ability to switch on defense on elite level. Bamba even on defense looked pretty bad. Granted, his wingspan will always allow him to be amazing shotblocker, but shotblocking does not mean good defense, as most of blocked shots result in inbound play for other team.
In general this 3 point frenzy for centers is huge mistake especially on start of their career.
In sport where target hangs in the air, being 7 footer and waisting your size on mediocre shooting for 3 is not best way how to use your size. Also how many Cs are even good at shooting 3s?
Horford and Lopez? And that "good" is 36% - league's average. Also Horford is barley 6'10, just to slow to play anything else but C.
System, coach and players around that players determine will their career take Frye - Maker path of Lopez , Horford path based on success of a team, not their invidiual success. Lopez shooting 3s on Lakers ment literally nothing for a team because they had A TON of other issues. It also destroyed his value as former allstar signed 1 year, $2,8M deal. Laughable. Same with him shooting 3s on Nets.
Frye on Suns was secret weapon, Frye on Magic was waste of time and salary.
Horford is painted as some great shooter but in his whole career he never averaged more than 1,3 threes made a game. So why would you guard him during 7 games series when you know for fact that his volumen on 3s does not exist? He'll take them only if there is no other option.
Mo Bamba as it is right now, has no business doing anything else outside paint until he becomes good enough screener and pick&roll rolling man. And once he is done that , he can expend his game, for start, by improving horrendus FT% that is worst than Dwight's rookie season.
If he keeps camping at 3 point line , on team with such a poor wing and guard players like Magic have, he is bound to be Maker vol 2 because his shooting will mean nothing to team and it will just hurt his value and his development. And because of lack of success of a team, he will be viewed as failure.
My whole point is that Cs who shoots 3s only have value on teams that need specific player to do specific thing well enough to help. Horford and Lopez are not first or second or even third options on their teams, they just keep defense honest by camping on 3 point line. On bad teams they would look just like Lopez looked year before and how Speights and Frye looked on Magic.
Look at Embiid, him standing on 3 point line to help Simmons is travisty and biggest waste of talent you can imagine.
That's why i think this "Vučević shoots 3s now he is good" logic was always stupid. Him shooting 3s is just bonus to other things he does well.
You CAN'T be good PG without jumpshot and you can't be good SG,SF or even PF without some sort of jumpshot ( well, if your name isn't Giannis ) , but you can be great C without shooting from outside. When you go through history, up until Embiid not a single C was shooting 3s. And again, guy CAN shoot some threes, but you can't have him shooting 1/3 of all FGA from 27 feet when he is bigger, longer, stronger and better postup player than any person on a planet Earth.