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OrlandoNed wrote:yoyojw17 wrote:
Good synopsis! I would love for him to be there at 16... but i would doubt it.
I hate comps because they almost always feel like hot takes, but I'm getting some James Harden vibes from Langford with a little splash of Terrance Ross.
MagicMatic wrote:Hypothetical draft day trade via Bleacher Report (yes I know it’s not credible) just for a conversation.
Hawks Receive: PF Aaron Gordon
Magic Receive: PG Mike Conley, No. 17 pick (via Nets)
Grizzlies Receive: SG Kent Bazemore, PG D.J. Augustin, No. 10 pick (via Mavericks)
I don’t think I’d do this trade because I’d like to see what AG would be capable of sans Vuc and with a capable point guard. However, I don’t know how else we land said capable point drafting in this range and without trading a legitimate asset. What do you guys think?
MagicMatic wrote:Hypothetical draft day trade via Bleacher Report (yes I know it’s not credible) just for a conversation.
Hawks Receive: PF Aaron Gordon
Magic Receive: PG Mike Conley, No. 17 pick (via Nets)
Grizzlies Receive: SG Kent Bazemore, PG D.J. Augustin, No. 10 pick (via Mavericks)
I don’t think I’d do this trade because I’d like to see what AG would be capable of sans Vuc and with a capable point guard. However, I don’t know how else we land said capable point drafting in this range and without trading a legitimate asset. What do you guys think?
MagicFan101 wrote:Crazy idea ...
The Knicks are working out Darius Garland after being heavily linked to Kyrie before we now expect him in Brooklyn.
Clearly they aren’t in love with DSjr. I still have some faith in him.
Should the Knicks go for Garland, would anyone here be up for sending the #16 to NY for DSjr?
Then Orlando moves on from the Russell dream and moves to keep Vuc + Ross.
Now we get to see what Cliff can do with BOTH DSjr and Fultz. Hopefully one can have the rebirth Russell did and live up to their potential ... which is much higher than most I can think of at #16.
... crazy talk? ... like it?
Skin wrote:For the Herro fans out there, does he project as an upgrade over Fournier to you?
Howard Mass wrote:zaymon wrote:Howard Mass wrote:Tyler Herro is definitely moving up.
He is the guy I want at #16.
However, I think this Draft has some good talent and The Magic will have some good options at #16.
#46 will be another story.
I think you are underestimating second round. There are guys who would be absolute steals at 46 like Jontay Porter, young guys like Lecque and THT, international guys without much attention Zoosman, Sirvydis, Brazdeikis, Smailagic and King, Dort, Roby, Bazley, Ponds.
All I said was #46 was a different story.
There are definitely bargains that can be had at #46.
The questions The Magic have to ask themselves at #46 are
1) Is there a player you want on the 15 man roster that would essentially spend a lot of time on Assignment in Lakeland? This would be similar to Melvin Frazier Jr. last year.
2) Is there a player who would be willing to sign a two-way deal where they would be a restricted free agent after a year or two?
3) Is there a player they like that might be willing to sign outright with Lakeland or go/stay overseas for a year or two?
I believe there will be a player at #46 that will answer one of these questions as there are always a few steals in the second round.
That's what I meant.
zaymon wrote:Howard Mass wrote:zaymon wrote:I think you are underestimating second round. There are guys who would be absolute steals at 46 like Jontay Porter, young guys like Lecque and THT, international guys without much attention Zoosman, Sirvydis, Brazdeikis, Smailagic and King, Dort, Roby, Bazley, Ponds.
All I said was #46 was a different story.
There are definitely bargains that can be had at #46.
The questions The Magic have to ask themselves at #46 are
1) Is there a player you want on the 15 man roster that would essentially spend a lot of time on Assignment in Lakeland? This would be similar to Melvin Frazier Jr. last year.
2) Is there a player who would be willing to sign a two-way deal where they would be a restricted free agent after a year or two?
3) Is there a player they like that might be willing to sign outright with Lakeland or go/stay overseas for a year or two?
I believe there will be a player at #46 that will answer one of these questions as there are always a few steals in the second round.
That's what I meant.
I think we will definitly use Lakeland as a tool to develop our second rounder and two- way contracts. Weltman even said he takes into account fit with the gleague team a little bit which is very hmm bold statement. For me the most interesting players are those international and injured. We could use Lakeland to its full potential. I loved how they used Frazier such a shame he is injured. Thought he has a chance to crack rotation.
Howard Mass wrote:zaymon wrote:Howard Mass wrote:
All I said was #46 was a different story.
There are definitely bargains that can be had at #46.
The questions The Magic have to ask themselves at #46 are
1) Is there a player you want on the 15 man roster that would essentially spend a lot of time on Assignment in Lakeland? This would be similar to Melvin Frazier Jr. last year.
2) Is there a player who would be willing to sign a two-way deal where they would be a restricted free agent after a year or two?
3) Is there a player they like that might be willing to sign outright with Lakeland or go/stay overseas for a year or two?
I believe there will be a player at #46 that will answer one of these questions as there are always a few steals in the second round.
That's what I meant.
I think we will definitly use Lakeland as a tool to develop our second rounder and two- way contracts. Weltman even said he takes into account fit with the gleague team a little bit which is very hmm bold statement. For me the most interesting players are those international and injured. We could use Lakeland to its full potential. I loved how they used Frazier such a shame he is injured. Thought he has a chance to crack rotation.
Lakeland is definitely a factor at #46.
It's too bad Frazier cannot play in Summer League this year.
PrimeThyme wrote:MagicMatic wrote:Hypothetical draft day trade via Bleacher Report (yes I know it’s not credible) just for a conversation.
Hawks Receive: PF Aaron Gordon
Magic Receive: PG Mike Conley, No. 17 pick (via Nets)
Grizzlies Receive: SG Kent Bazemore, PG D.J. Augustin, No. 10 pick (via Mavericks)
I don’t think I’d do this trade because I’d like to see what AG would be capable of sans Vuc and with a capable point guard. However, I don’t know how else we land said capable point drafting in this range and without trading a legitimate asset. What do you guys think?
Id want to be receiving the 10th pick in that trade. Even then I dont think Id have much interest at all tbh. At Conleys age/contract/injury history I don't think Grizzlies can expect much value back.
magicman112 wrote:PrimeThyme wrote:MagicMatic wrote:Hypothetical draft day trade via Bleacher Report (yes I know it’s not credible) just for a conversation.
Hawks Receive: PF Aaron Gordon
Magic Receive: PG Mike Conley, No. 17 pick (via Nets)
Grizzlies Receive: SG Kent Bazemore, PG D.J. Augustin, No. 10 pick (via Mavericks)
I don’t think I’d do this trade because I’d like to see what AG would be capable of sans Vuc and with a capable point guard. However, I don’t know how else we land said capable point drafting in this range and without trading a legitimate asset. What do you guys think?
Id want to be receiving the 10th pick in that trade. Even then I dont think Id have much interest at all tbh. At Conleys age/contract/injury history I don't think Grizzlies can expect much value back.
I don't get the obsession some have with Conley. Yes he's an excellent PG but he gets injured way too much.
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Howard Mass wrote:zaymon wrote:I think we will definitly use Lakeland as a tool to develop our second rounder and two- way contracts. Weltman even said he takes into account fit with the gleague team a little bit which is very hmm bold statement. For me the most interesting players are those international and injured. We could use Lakeland to its full potential. I loved how they used Frazier such a shame he is injured. Thought he has a chance to crack rotation.
Lakeland is definitely a factor at #46.
It's too bad Frazier cannot play in Summer League this year.
46 could find themselves on the bench if we resign Vuc n tRoss I think.
I have quite a few guys at 46 that interest me. Oni Lecque, Guy, Louis King, Ponds, my latest find is Obiese dude.
MagicFan101 wrote:MagicMatic wrote:Hypothetical draft day trade via Bleacher Report (yes I know it’s not credible) just for a conversation.
Hawks Receive: PF Aaron Gordon
Magic Receive: PG Mike Conley, No. 17 pick (via Nets)
Grizzlies Receive: SG Kent Bazemore, PG D.J. Augustin, No. 10 pick (via Mavericks)
I don’t think I’d do this trade because I’d like to see what AG would be capable of sans Vuc and with a capable point guard. However, I don’t know how else we land said capable point drafting in this range and without trading a legitimate asset. What do you guys think?
I have no interest in Mike Conley and AG >>>>> #17.
No interest at all.
SOUL wrote:MagicFan101 wrote:Crazy idea ...
The Knicks are working out Darius Garland after being heavily linked to Kyrie before we now expect him in Brooklyn.
Clearly they aren’t in love with DSjr. I still have some faith in him.
Should the Knicks go for Garland, would anyone here be up for sending the #16 to NY for DSjr?
Then Orlando moves on from the Russell dream and moves to keep Vuc + Ross.
Now we get to see what Cliff can do with BOTH DSjr and Fultz. Hopefully one can have the rebirth Russell did and live up to their potential ... which is much higher than most I can think of at #16.
... crazy talk? ... like it?
I would just gamble on Fultz alone. Not him and DSJ. Both have some injury concerns and one we have to make sure even gets back to the court. DSJ just hasn't impressed me yet and I don't think he's cerebral enough to be a leading point guard.
