SOUL wrote:pepe1991 wrote:SOUL wrote:
Your issue with the team is Gordon and Isaac, not Fournier and DJ?
Interesting..
They are 4 separated individuals. There is zero reason why you should box them into two groups.
As individuals we know:
Dj is career backup
Evan normally isn't this bad
Gordon is solid ( but that's about it).
isaac ,based on basketball he has shown past two years really doesn't look like anything more than just another role player , overhyped and overdrafted like most players are in lottery.
Can he develop ? Sure. Does being overhyped means he can't be good? No.
Did 6th overall pick sounded way more sexy than 23% FG ,6,5 ppg player in playoffs that can't hit open jumper despite allegedly being wing ? Hell yea . Just like former 2# pick sounds more sexy than Michael Kid Gilchrist
Isaac clearly affects the game and isn't called upon for his offense though. He steadily improved throughout the season. It's like being mad at a quarterback for not being able to be a wide receiver. He's 21 and his offense will come, at least should come. It's not like he's Ben Simmons not attempting three point shots, he had 3 months where he shot 35% or better from three on decent amount of attempts.
Same with comparing him to MGK. His career 3pt attempt averages are 0.2 attempts... it shows that he is not comfortable stretching the floor whatsoever. Isaac may not hit open shots all the time right now, but first of all he's 21 and already does a lot defensively, and if he did that, we'd have something close to a star.. but obviously he's just an uber role player right now.
****. People thought Dedmon who had the worst hands after Biyombo would not ever become a shooter and suddenly becomes 35-38% shooter the last 2 years.
Isaac just finished what was basically his rookie year in terms of games played and finished 32% from three and 81% from the line.. that is something to be hopeful about. What he needs to work on besides his shot is now being comfortable with dribbling enough to drive and pick his spots on the floor rather than waiting for the ball or passes that don't come from PGs that can't see him.
It's too early to box him into some "can he improve" mantra that you always try to lay on these young guys as if there is no such offensive improvements these guys can make. He's never going like a naturally clean offensive player, but I don't see a reason why he can't be a very useful two way player which is super important to a team.
Feel like you would've railed on Siakam if we had him too.. 14% from three and 68 ft% his first year and then 22%/62% his next year.. he just played inside more which made his regular FG% near 50.
I didn't compare him with MKG, just draft stock of players drafted with xy lottery pick. It doesn't matter where you were drafted once drafting is over . What matters is what you can or can't do. Does anybody care about former 2013 or 2015 first round picks ?
I'll never get that " rookie" argument . Guy had from March of 2017 until today , April 2019 nothing selse to do but his job- witch is now basketball. That's why i hate when injuried player gets ROY next year despite spending whole year with nba coaches, experts for food, mobility ,strenght.. It's such a unafir adventage over kid who just stepped on big stage. But that's personal opinion.
Most of time i don't talk about his defense but offense, as clear problem. His defense is fine. His offense does not exist.
As for shooting 35% for 3 on some nights, 75% of all 3s he took were open or wide open. Vast majority of them were wide open AND from corner, where you have guys shooting 45% for 3 for career , regardless open or not. Matter of fact league's average in corner 3s is 39%.
As for Siakam, i think i actually compared Isaac to Siakam last year ( and repeated it this year ) . Imo Siakam is less stiff with ball ( always has been) and is probably bit better athlete ( also shorter ).
I don't think Siakam is really THIS good , like how he looked vs Magic, but he isn't that far off.
Without Leonard he is averaging 19 ppg (however Ibaka is averaging 17 and Lowry 18 , so they share spotlight ).
it's kind a shame that with Magic Isaac will never be tried as small ball C because of Vuc and Bamba.
I'm still doubt Bamba and Isaac (especially with Gordon ) will be able to share floor in effective way.
When i think about, Magic frontcourt situation is almost identical as Jazz had when they had Favors, Millsap, Okur ( later Kanter) and Jefferson, Lot of "potential" and lot of "proven" players, in reality lot of ok players that really don't move needle.
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon
