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Re: Listen Everyone...draft TACKO FALL!! 

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Post#22 » by pepe1991 » Tue May 21, 2019 6:51 am

slower Roy Hibbert...
Probably won't get drafted before 50#
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Re: Listen Everyone...draft TACKO FALL!! 

Post#23 » by SOUL » Tue May 21, 2019 6:57 am

pepe1991 wrote:slower Roy Hibbert...
Probably won't get drafted before 50#


Why are we agreeing so much lately? :o
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Re: Listen Everyone...draft TACKO FALL!! 

Post#24 » by pepe1991 » Tue May 21, 2019 7:11 am

SOUL wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:slower Roy Hibbert...
Probably won't get drafted before 50#


Why are we agreeing so much lately? :o


:lol:

i actually agree about lot of stuff you post, +1 you a lot, always did :lol:
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Re: Listen Everyone...draft TACKO FALL!! 

Post#25 » by MagicFrenchie » Tue May 21, 2019 7:37 am

He should be considered a consensus 1st ,I mean he's longer and heavier than Bamba.
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Re: Listen Everyone...draft TACKO FALL!! 

Post#26 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue May 21, 2019 11:08 am

I’ve been on the Tacko bus for a minute. Idk why anyone wouldn’t want to take a flier on him at 46. Obviously it depends on how the roster shakes out but let’s say we lose vuc or even birch what’s Wrong with looking at him as a back up? I don’t want to hear anything about “the speed of the game” bull. You’ve got Marc Gasol, Andre Drummond, jokic, and Boban and those guys aren’t exactly flying all over the court, plus his lane agility wasn’t too bad. I think it’s fair to say he’s more than capable of playing in the nba.
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Re: Listen Everyone...draft TACKO FALL!! 

Post#27 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue May 21, 2019 11:09 am

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Oh and he actually uses his wing span/ standing reach to play defense.
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Post#28 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue May 21, 2019 11:35 am

There is something intriguing regarding a player who can dunk without jumping. If he is available with by the time the 46th pick roll's around, I would bite. Don't think he will go in the 1st but he may have improved his stock from late 2nd to Free Agency to mid 2nd to early 2nd round prospect.
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Post#29 » by fendilim » Tue May 21, 2019 12:19 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:If we offered #16 + Isaac, would that move us high enough to be in a position to take Tacko?

Gordon + Bamba + Isaac and 16th for the 4th pick to draft Tacko, who says no?
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Post#30 » by pepe1991 » Tue May 21, 2019 12:23 pm

Saw lot of rumors that Zion is not taller than 6'7 , 6'5 without shoes.
That guy is being so damn overhyped this year for somebody who has no true position or basketball skill other than freakish athletic -given weight.

Good luck to doctors on Pelicans, that knees will need lot of miracle work.
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Post#31 » by MagicFan101 » Tue May 21, 2019 12:27 pm

fendilim wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:If we offered #16 + Isaac, would that move us high enough to be in a position to take Tacko?

Gordon + Bamba + Isaac and 16th for the 4th pick to draft Tacko, who says no?


29 other teams. Gotta give up a future unprotected and take back a bad contract.

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Post#32 » by MagicFan101 » Tue May 21, 2019 12:29 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Saw lot of rumors that Zion is not taller than 6'7 , 6'5 without shoes.
That guy is being so damn overhyped this year for somebody who has no true position or basketball skill other than freakish athletic -given weight.

Good luck to doctors on Pelicans, that knees will need lot of miracle work.


Rumors?

His height has been a known fact since high school man.
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Post#33 » by MagicFrenchie » Tue May 21, 2019 12:47 pm

More like Tacko Fail
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Post#34 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue May 21, 2019 1:00 pm

Yea who needs guards???
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Post#35 » by fendilim » Tue May 21, 2019 1:01 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Saw lot of rumors that Zion is not taller than 6'7 , 6'5 without shoes.
That guy is being so damn overhyped this year for somebody who has no true position or basketball skill other than freakish athletic -given weight.

Good luck to doctors on Pelicans, that knees will need lot of miracle work.
Tacko for 1st pick then...
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Post#36 » by Furinkazan » Tue May 21, 2019 1:30 pm

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Post#37 » by Furinkazan » Tue May 21, 2019 1:31 pm

so Bol Bol and Tacko Fall it is?With Bamba at SG or PG?
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Post#38 » by tiderulz » Tue May 21, 2019 1:39 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Saw lot of rumors that Zion is not taller than 6'7 , 6'5 without shoes.
That guy is being so damn overhyped this year for somebody who has no true position or basketball skill other than freakish athletic -given weight.

Good luck to doctors on Pelicans, that knees will need lot of miracle work.

never really understand anyone taking into account someone's height without shoes, they dont play basketball barefoot.

Also, the NBA has moved to "positionless" basketball, so who cares if someone doesnt have a "true position". with his athleticism, he has shown the speed to be able to stay in front of SG's/SF's. Draymond Green is 6'7 and can handle PF/C while also defending SF's and doing rim defense against SG's.

And Zion's knee's dont have any issues right now, so doctors on Pelicans only need to work on his diet. And being a 19 yr old, im sure his diet wasnt great, so I expect that to right itself pretty quickly.
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Post#39 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue May 21, 2019 2:00 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Saw lot of rumors that Zion is not taller than 6'7 , 6'5 without shoes.
That guy is being so damn overhyped this year for somebody who has no true position or basketball skill other than freakish athletic -given weight.

Good luck to doctors on Pelicans, that knees will need lot of miracle work.


Dude can be great against average College players, but I don't see him dominating against NBA caliber talent being he can't drive to the left or use his left hand much on layups. He actually tries to lay it up with his right hand when driving to the left which is an easy block in the NBA. Plus, being it seems like 90% of his scoring was within 6' of the basket, not sure how that translates to the NBA. He will need to be great defensively and develop a respectable 3 pointer to be effective all while probably spending more time at the 3 which will be tougher for him.
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Post#40 » by pepe1991 » Tue May 21, 2019 3:42 pm

tiderulz wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Saw lot of rumors that Zion is not taller than 6'7 , 6'5 without shoes.
That guy is being so damn overhyped this year for somebody who has no true position or basketball skill other than freakish athletic -given weight.

Good luck to doctors on Pelicans, that knees will need lot of miracle work.

never really understand anyone taking into account someone's height without shoes, they dont play basketball barefoot.

Also, the NBA has moved to "positionless" basketball, so who cares if someone doesnt have a "true position". with his athleticism, he has shown the speed to be able to stay in front of SG's/SF's. Draymond Green is 6'7 and can handle PF/C while also defending SF's and doing rim defense against SG's.

And Zion's knee's dont have any issues right now, so doctors on Pelicans only need to work on his diet. And being a 19 yr old, im sure his diet wasnt great, so I expect that to right itself pretty quickly.


Because players go from 6'3 without shoes to 6'6 in shoes ,witch is laughable and flat out lie to make them look better to scouts/GMs/fans.
Would you draft 6'7 center who can't shoot? I would not. That's Biyombo's size at combine . Yet in nba he is listed as 6'9 -6'10.

Basketball will never be positionless because players based on size aquire unique set of skills through their youth. Small players has to rely heavly on his ballhandling and shooting and therfore develops better skills at that, than guy who is 7'0 and can dunk on everybody.

Unicorns do exist, but they are still rare. Despite existence of Durant's and Zingis of the world, most bigs still can't handle the ball or shoot, most bigs don't come off screens and shoot and most small guards don't post up or bang for rebounds. Size and position will always play big factor in sport where target hangs in the air, just like in cycling being fat will never be adventage or in powerlifting skinny legs will never be adventage. It's just born predispositions for things.

Problem with Zion is that he isn't ballhandler, isn't shooter and isn't some post up scorer. So how he will play half court offense in playoffs? That guy has ceiling of Blake Griffin, if he ever develops into that type of passer and shooter. And that's long shot. Not to mention injury risk while playing at 280 pounds ( you have at athlete x on youtube graph of probabilty for injury based on bodyweight, boyfat and size ).

Said it 2 months ago, Morant will end up being best player from that draft IMO because his floor is starter for 10 years and his ceiling is top 10 player. No matter who drafts him, he will end up being useful. Where with Zion you will have to aquire specific talent around him to make him useful ( mostly, shooters, elite ballhandler, streach 5 center.... ).
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