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It's draft DAY! Who should we take at 16? (Poll)

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Who should we select?

Tyler Herro, Kentucky
12
13%
Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Virginia Tech
31
34%
Romeo Langford, Indiana
11
12%
Kevin Porter Jr., USC
14
15%
Brandon Clarke, Gonzaga
1
1%
Nassir Little, North Carolina
5
5%
PJ Washington, Kentucky
2
2%
Keldon Johnson, Kentucky
2
2%
Kz Okpala, Stanford
3
3%
Bol Bol, Oregon
10
11%
 
Total votes: 91

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Re: The draft is 4 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#101 » by NotACat » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:43 pm

The Effect wrote:
Ducklett wrote:You have to take the player with the highest upside. Be that Porter, Langford, or Johnson. You can't take a specialist like Herro or a low ceiling, high floor like NAW when the team doesn't have a superstar. You gotta go for the fences and hope to god we find the next Mitchell, SGA, etc.

Agree for the most, Thats why i have Bol Bol so high on my list
I feel he has the highest potential of being a superstar

Like if i had to make a best case scenario for my top 4 guys, hes by far the highest

best case
Herro - JJ Redick
Bol - Embiid
Cam Johnson - Kevin huerter
NAW - Courtney Lee

With that said, I think he has the lowest floor as well. He can just as easily be the next thon maker as he can be the next Embiid. But thats a risk im willing to take at 16


Only part i disagree with its, i still see the value of a specialist as we need SOMEONE who can make a jumper and score some points, cause right now .....TRoss is the only legit option and hes probably gone

I disagree with all of your best case comps...

This is how I see their ceilings:
Herro - TRoss - super dunks
Bol - we've never seen a player like him except his dad, but he's a much better shooter than his dad, and has great touch.
Cam Johnson - Wesley Matthews
NAW - Middleton
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Re: The draft is 4 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#102 » by The Effect » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:57 pm

NotACat wrote:
The Effect wrote:
Ducklett wrote:You have to take the player with the highest upside. Be that Porter, Langford, or Johnson. You can't take a specialist like Herro or a low ceiling, high floor like NAW when the team doesn't have a superstar. You gotta go for the fences and hope to god we find the next Mitchell, SGA, etc.

Agree for the most, Thats why i have Bol Bol so high on my list
I feel he has the highest potential of being a superstar

Like if i had to make a best case scenario for my top 4 guys, hes by far the highest

best case
Herro - JJ Redick
Bol - Embiid
Cam Johnson - Kevin huerter
NAW - Courtney Lee

With that said, I think he has the lowest floor as well. He can just as easily be the next thon maker as he can be the next Embiid. But thats a risk im willing to take at 16


Only part i disagree with its, i still see the value of a specialist as we need SOMEONE who can make a jumper and score some points, cause right now .....TRoss is the only legit option and hes probably gone

I disagree with all of your best case comps...

This is how I see their ceilings:
Herro - TRoss - super dunks
Bol - we've never seen a player like him except his dad, but he's a much better shooter than his dad, and has great touch.
Cam Johnson - Wesley Matthews
NAW - Middleton


NEVER looked at Herro as a "super dunker".

Bols game doesnt resemble his dads at all. Hes MUCH more polished offensively and not quite the defensive player. Hell if we are going with any comp, id say a poor mans KG. thats much more his style than his dad

Cam i could see as a wesley johnson type, but i think hes more of a jump shooter than wes but thats still good

NAW, i can see that, except that middleton is pretty tall, i want to say 6'8-6-9 with a 7ft wingspan. Measurables, and games, Courtney lee and NAW seem like clones
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Re: The draft is 4 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#103 » by NotACat » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:04 pm

The Effect wrote:
NotACat wrote:
The Effect wrote:Agree for the most, Thats why i have Bol Bol so high on my list
I feel he has the highest potential of being a superstar

Like if i had to make a best case scenario for my top 4 guys, hes by far the highest

best case
Herro - JJ Redick
Bol - Embiid
Cam Johnson - Kevin huerter
NAW - Courtney Lee

With that said, I think he has the lowest floor as well. He can just as easily be the next thon maker as he can be the next Embiid. But thats a risk im willing to take at 16


Only part i disagree with its, i still see the value of a specialist as we need SOMEONE who can make a jumper and score some points, cause right now .....TRoss is the only legit option and hes probably gone

I disagree with all of your best case comps...

This is how I see their ceilings:
Herro - TRoss - super dunks
Bol - we've never seen a player like him except his dad, but he's a much better shooter than his dad, and has great touch.
Cam Johnson - Wesley Matthews
NAW - Middleton


NEVER looked at Herro as a "super dunker".

Bols game doesnt resemble his dads at all. Hes MUCH more polished offensively and not quite the defensive player. Hell if we are going with any comp, id say a poor mans KG. thats much more his style than his dad

Cam i could see as a wesley johnson type, but i think hes more of a jump shooter than wes but thats still good

NAW, i can see that, except that middleton is pretty tall, i want to say 6'8-6-9 with a 7ft wingspan. Measurables, and games, Courtney lee and NAW seem like clones

The dash was meant to be a minus, so TRoss minus the dunks
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Re: The draft is 4 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#104 » by The Effect » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:31 pm

NotACat wrote:
The Effect wrote:
NotACat wrote:I disagree with all of your best case comps...

This is how I see their ceilings:
Herro - TRoss - super dunks
Bol - we've never seen a player like him except his dad, but he's a much better shooter than his dad, and has great touch.
Cam Johnson - Wesley Matthews
NAW - Middleton


NEVER looked at Herro as a "super dunker".

Bols game doesnt resemble his dads at all. Hes MUCH more polished offensively and not quite the defensive player. Hell if we are going with any comp, id say a poor mans KG. thats much more his style than his dad

Cam i could see as a wesley johnson type, but i think hes more of a jump shooter than wes but thats still good

NAW, i can see that, except that middleton is pretty tall, i want to say 6'8-6-9 with a 7ft wingspan. Measurables, and games, Courtney lee and NAW seem like clones

The dash was meant to be a minus, so TRoss minus the dunks

Oh....
yeah i can see that, and thats something i would be happy with at 16
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Re: The draft is 3 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#105 » by AdamTheGreek » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:49 am

We're actually in a pretty great spot. It's almost better to be 16th than 8-12 and I think you'll see teams in that range try to trade out of those spots.

I don't care for Herro. Negative wingspan, don't like his attitude.

But at least one of NAW, Langford, Little, Porter, Clarke, will be on the board when we're up.

I'm pretty sure only 1 of Langford or NAW will be available, so either of those is my preference. I think NAW can play a lot immediately but Romeo has the tools to REALLY bring the scoring and possibly be a go-to guy (which is why Romeo's stock is rising).

I don't care about a guy's form as long as it can't get blocked/bothered. Romeo played with a messed up hand last season, who knows how much better he would've shot it had that not been a problem. But the guy can get to the hole and create for himself. At 16, that sounds great to me.

NAW seems to be the safe pick, I get a Courtney Lee (loved him that rookie Finals trip) type of vibe off him even though they're very different players.

At the end of it all, I don't care who we draft as long as they end up contributing.
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Re: The draft is 3 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#106 » by OrlandoSaban » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:52 am

I mean we are getting D’Lo right?? Gosh this board is a mess!
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Post#107 » by Nyce_1 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:03 am

Pass on Porter. Kid seems too arrogant and immature. Yes, he's a kid, but locker room presence is important. I don't think he'd be a good fit with our guys.
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Re: The draft is 4 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#108 » by Def Swami » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:40 am

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p0peye wrote:What heighest ceiling are we talking about? Those kind of guys went dozen picks ahead.

In teens you pick most skilled player you can find, give him room and patience and hope for the best.

Guys like Kevin Porter Jr. Oozes athleticism, explosion, flashes scoring skillset of go to scorers....yet possesses an unrefined game. Can be a better decision maker, improve shot selection, become more consistent... love that despite all that he still shot 40% from 3.


Really athletic guy who can dribble and isn't afraid to pull up. But I'm skeptical about the shooting. 40% from 3, but on only 68 attempts with an awkward stroke. The fact that he only shot 52% from the free throw line is a red flag. We've seen those guys who shoot 3's well in college with a weird stroke and have sub-par free throw percentages get to the league and find out their free throw percentage was more reflective of their shooting prowess. Lonzo Ball and Justice Winslow come to mind.

But I understand the appeal of going for the guy with the highest upside. Wouldn't be mad at it.
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Re: The draft is 3 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#109 » by shadrock » Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:45 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:We're actually in a pretty great spot. It's almost better to be 16th than 8-12 and I think you'll see teams in that range try to trade out of those spots.

I don't care for Herro. Negative wingspan, don't like his attitude.

But at least one of NAW, Langford, Little, Porter, Clarke, will be on the board when we're up.

I'm pretty sure only 1 of Langford or NAW will be available, so either of those is my preference. I think NAW can play a lot immediately but Romeo has the tools to REALLY bring the scoring and possibly be a go-to guy (which is why Romeo's stock is rising).

I don't care about a guy's form as long as it can't get blocked/bothered. Romeo played with a messed up hand last season, who knows how much better he would've shot it had that not been a problem. But the guy can get to the hole and create for himself. At 16, that sounds great to me.

NAW seems to be the safe pick, I get a Courtney Lee (loved him that rookie Finals trip) type of vibe off him even though they're very different players.

At the end of it all, I don't care who we draft as long as they end up contributing.


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Post#110 » by p0peye » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:38 am

We've got a roster full of heighest ceiling guys and I want a basketball player with actual skills for a change. Give me a sound shooter and scorer at 16 any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Post#111 » by pepe1991 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:33 am

p0peye wrote:We've got a roster full of heighest ceiling guys and I want a basketball player with actual skills for a change. Give me a sound shooter and scorer at 16 any day of the week and twice on Sunday.


Nah, longboi who has basketball skills of toddler :nod: :nod:
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Post#112 » by NotACat » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:32 pm

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p0peye wrote:We've got a roster full of heighest ceiling guys and I want a basketball player with actual skills for a change. Give me a sound shooter and scorer at 16 any day of the week and twice on Sunday.


Nah, longboi who has basketball skills of toddler :nod: :nod:

Why not both in NAW?
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Post#113 » by MagicFrenchie » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:37 pm

If Bol Bol is available I'm pretty sure , like 99 % sure, Weham take him , put him in the first taxi and get out the quickest possible way of Brooklyn to Orlando.
He's a freak. Giannis type of freak. But in a bigger scale.
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Post#114 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:26 pm

MagicFrenchie wrote:If Bol Bol is available I'm pretty sure , like 99 % sure, Weham take him , put him in the first taxi and get out the quickest possible way of Brooklyn to Orlando.
He's a freak. Giannis type of freak. But in a bigger scale.
Minus the work ethic and health.....IDK I'd be ok with it I guess. They havent worked him out so it would make sense.

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Post#115 » by magicman112 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:40 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MagicFrenchie wrote:If Bol Bol is available I'm pretty sure , like 99 % sure, Weham take him , put him in the first taxi and get out the quickest possible way of Brooklyn to Orlando.
He's a freak. Giannis type of freak. But in a bigger scale.
Minus the work ethic and health.....IDK I'd be ok with it I guess. They havent worked him out so it would make sense.

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Yea I'd be ok with it too I saw a workout video and he was moving a lot better than I remember seeing him during the season. But it's pretty risky if he can't adjust to the NBA game and/or stay healthy.
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Post#116 » by tiderulz » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:03 pm

magicman112 wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MagicFrenchie wrote:If Bol Bol is available I'm pretty sure , like 99 % sure, Weham take him , put him in the first taxi and get out the quickest possible way of Brooklyn to Orlando.
He's a freak. Giannis type of freak. But in a bigger scale.
Minus the work ethic and health.....IDK I'd be ok with it I guess. They havent worked him out so it would make sense.

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Yea I'd be ok with it too I saw a workout video and he was moving a lot better than I remember seeing him during the season. But it's pretty risky if he can't adjust to the NBA game and/or stay healthy.

foot stress fractures already scare me. Also, how does he fit with Bamba and Isaac?
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Post#117 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:10 pm

tiderulz wrote:
magicman112 wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Minus the work ethic and health.....IDK I'd be ok with it I guess. They havent worked him out so it would make sense.

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Yea I'd be ok with it too I saw a workout video and he was moving a lot better than I remember seeing him during the season. But it's pretty risky if he can't adjust to the NBA game and/or stay healthy.

foot stress fractures already scare me. Also, how does he fit with Bamba and Isaac?

he doesn't.. Bol Bol would be the worst pick IMO... I could see him slide 18-20's
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Post#118 » by MMFla » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:27 pm

I'm expecting NAW but I chose Langford, I think with the coaching staff we have they could get him to be more aggressive and a go-to guy.
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Post#119 » by Def Swami » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:27 pm

I'd also be okay with Bol Bol at #16. He was legitimately playing like a top 5 pick prior to his injury. I don't believe he'll drop to #16. He has so much upside to drop that low. I would draft him on talent and upside alone. If you're trying to take a swing on a guy with the most upside and potential to be a superstar, no one fits that more than Bol in this range. With both Vucevic and Birch as free agents, I don't think it's that unrealistic.
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Re: The draft is 3 days away, Who should we take at 16? (Poll) 

Post#120 » by magicman112 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:21 pm

tiderulz wrote:
magicman112 wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Minus the work ethic and health.....IDK I'd be ok with it I guess. They havent worked him out so it would make sense.

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Yea I'd be ok with it too I saw a workout video and he was moving a lot better than I remember seeing him during the season. But it's pretty risky if he can't adjust to the NBA game and/or stay healthy.

foot stress fractures already scare me. Also, how does he fit with Bamba and Isaac?


Yeah, I'm kind of hoping he's off the board when we pick not that I would hate if we did pick him but I just think there's a lot of risk involved with him.

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