Steve Clifford applauds free-agent signings, team’s roster versatility

[Knightro]

The latest from Roy Perry at the Sentinel. A lot of quotes from Clifford...

Steve Clifford applauds free-agent signings, team’s roster versatility

The play of center Nikola Vucevic and shooting guard Terrence Ross — both of whom were officially re-signed Saturday to new four-year deals — won’t be the only keys to success next season for the Orlando Magic.

Magic coach Steve Clifford said team improvement goes beyond two players. While he expects the veteran duo will find ways to get better, Clifford said every player on the roster has to improve.

“I think the misconception in this league is only younger players have to get better in the offseason. Nothing’s further from the truth,” Clifford said Sunday from the Summer League in Las Vegas. “The best players in our league, the older players, if you really watch closely, they get better every year.

“Guys like Vooch and Terrence, they’re not going to make the giant step that a 20-year-old will make, but they know this, and they’re both good workers. It’s important that every guy gets better and that’s what you have to do to take a step [forward].”

Nonetheless, Clifford is happy to get back two players who filled important roles in last season’s run to the playoffs. Vucevic led the team in scoring and rebounding while Ross was its top 3-point shooter and one of the best sixth men in the NBA.

“We’re hopeful, obviously, that it will help a lot,” Clifford said of re-signing Vucevic and Ross. “I think also the fact that they’re good players in the prime of their careers, and they played well last year. I think they can play even better this year.”

While in Las Vegas, Clifford has been watching film on the Magic’s other free-agent signee, Al-Farouq Aminu. Clifford has been impressed with he’s seen so far from the 6-foot-9 forward who started 81 games for the Trail Blazers last season.

The Magic finalized a three-year deal with Aminu on Saturday.

“He’s just a really good NBA player. He plays in a manner when he’s on the floor that you have a chance to execute on both ends every possession,” Clifford said of Aminu. “He’s smart, high IQ, [has] positional size and [is] a very good defender, so I’m getting more up to speed on him, but he’s a very, very good player.”

Next season’s roster will feature Aminu, Aaron Gordon, Jonathan Isaac and Wes Iwundu at the forward spots.

In addition, the Magic have more depth at forward with first-round draft pick Chuma Okeke. Although he’s recovering from a torn ACL, he still figures prominently in the Magic’s future.

Clifford, however, doesn’t see a logjam. He sees it as an extension of what the Magic are trying to build with their roster.

“What you want to have is versatile guys who can play multiple positions, and that’s what all those guys are,” he said. “They have a defensive component to the game that makes things easier for everybody, and they can all play together.

“Down the line, you can envision a lineup with the way this league is now you could do Aaron [Gordon] with Jonathan [Isaac] with Al-Farouq at the 3, 4 and 5. You could also envision one of them at the 2, one at the 3 and one at the 4.”

Bamba sits against Nuggets

Second-year center Mo Bamba did not play in Sunday’s Summer League game against the Denver Nuggets at Cox Pavilion. The move was simply a precaution as the team seeks to manage his minutes and takes a conservative approach as Bamba comes back from a stress fracture injury in his left leg that forced him to miss 34 games last season.

Amile Jefferson, who spent last season on a two-way contract with the Magic, started in Bamba’s place. Cameron Lard, a rookie out of Iowa State, was the first center off the bench.

Bamba scored 15 points in 15 minutes during Friday’s Summer League opening win against the San Antonio Spurs.

When the Magic reached an agreement to re-sign Vucevic, some fans voiced their concerns on social media that Bamba’s development would be slowed.

Clifford disagrees.

In his experience, he said teams want to have as much depth as possible. Clifford acknowledges Bamba has put in a lot of work to return from his stress-fracture injury but contends his development won’t be hindered playing behind Vucevic. He thinks the opposite is true.

“I think Vooch is good for Mo. Mo has a chance to be a very good player, and I think it’s actually good for him [playing with Vucevic],” Clifford said.

“What we’ll do is look for a role that he can play well in. That’s the way it always starts. But what you want to have in the NBA is you want to have as many good players as you can. We’re in a place now where it’s about winning.

“So I would say this to any fan: If you can give me a guy that averaged 20 [points] and 12 [rebounds] and give a somewhat intelligent reason why a team wouldn’t bring him back, you’d be a very creative thinker. And I’ve been doing this 20 years.”

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-sp-magic-summer-league-20190707-wv2qfcdm5zhr3k7r6dwreecs7y-story.html

[rcklsscognition]

Something about that 2nd to last sentence makes me giggle and think about some of the posts here.

[OrlandO]

“So I would say this to any fan: If you can give me a guy that averaged 20 [points] and 12 [rebounds] and give a somewhat intelligent reason why a team wouldn’t bring him back, you’d be a very creative thinker. And I’ve been doing this 20 years.”

[Nyce_1]

“Down the line, you can envision a lineup with the way this league is now you could do Aaron [Gordon] with Jonathan [Isaac] with Al-Farouq at the 3, 4 and 5. You could also envision one of them at the 2, one at the 3 and one at the 4.”

[BadMofoPimp]

“So I would say this to any fan: If you can give me a guy that averaged 20 [points] and 12 [rebounds] and give a somewhat intelligent reason why a team wouldn’t bring him back, you’d be a very creative thinker. And I’ve been doing this 20 years.”

We have plenty of creative thinkers on RealGM, lol.

[VFX]

What is he supposed to say? That he disagrees with his boss and that he would rather not have a reliable offensive option to lean on for lack thereof? His job is to win games.

He’s been a head coach since 2013 and went from only having Kemba to only having Vucevic. Who knows what he can do if he actually had more talent. Here’s hoping this FO can find it for him.

[PrimeThyme]

“Down the line, you can envision a lineup with the way this league is now you could do Aaron [Gordon] with Jonathan [Isaac] with Al-Farouq at the 3, 4 and 5. You could also envision one of them at the 2, one at the 3 and one at the 4.”

Spoiler:

[MartinsIzAfraud]

“Down the line, you can envision a lineup with the way this league is now you could do Aaron [Gordon] with Jonathan [Isaac] with Al-Farouq at the 3, 4 and 5. You could also envision one of them at the 2, one at the 3 and one at the 4.”

Magic down 13 as X team goes on 10-0 run

[Popsicle1228]

What is he supposed to say? That he disagrees with his boss and that he would rather not have a reliable offensive option to lean on for lack thereof? His job is to win games.

I have always thought of Clifford as a straight shooter, and if he disagrees with his boss he would not have made said comments. Appreciate the creative thought though.

[drsd]

We’re in a place now where it’s about winning.

OUCH!

Something about that 2nd to last sentence makes me giggle and think about some of the posts here.

Indeed!

[OrlandoSaban]

NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF EVAN IN THIS ARTICLE - EVAN IS TRADE BAIT!!!

[OrlandoSaban]

NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF EVAN IN THIS ARTICLE - EVAN IS TRADE BAIT!!!

[pepe1991]

[zaymon]

You just need to hear the Clifford interview which was the core of the article. He said that Fournier is a terrific shooter and player and he is happy that even in his down year Evan was so good and there is a lot of room for improvement.

[Xatticus]

I think this kind of exemplifies a fundamental disconnect in different lines of reasoning.

Stanley Milgram conducted some very famous experiments on obedience to authority. The goal was to explain how something like the holocaust could happen. In short, he found that roughly two thirds of the population would willingly shock someone to death with a bit of urging from a perceived authority figure.

There are different theories as to why this is. I tend to like the theory on self-domestication. We've bred subservience into our own species. It explains what makes us such wonderful corporate tools.

"The boss is right because he is the boss".

It's circular and simple-minded reasoning. Not everyone gives Clifford's words the same degree of authoritative credence.

Two years ago, the Clippers finished with a disappointing 51 wins and so decided to tear down the core of a team that seemed to have reached its ceiling. They have since turned over the entirety of their roster. They dumped or traded Chris Paul, JJ Redick, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. This past season, they won 48 games with a roster led by Montrezl Harrell and Danilo Gallinari. They were 18-9 after they traded away Tobias Harris. Perhaps the Clippers front office figured out that Blake Griffin's 23 ppg, 8 rpg, and 5 apg didn't really amount to many extra wins?

I certainly hope that Clifford's logic wasn't the reasoning behind why we committed roughly 20% of our cap space to Vucevic. I like Clifford. I think that, on the whole, he is an above average coach in this league. That said, I don't believe he is the sharpest tool in the shed and I hope that he has no direct influence on roster decisions.

I stuck with Hennigan for a long time and I haven't turned on this front office yet. That said, my honest appraisal of Weltman at present is that he is ultra-conservative and bereft of ideas.

[Nyce_1]

NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF EVAN IN THIS ARTICLE - EVAN IS TRADE BAIT!!!

I dont know if I've expressed it here but I fully expect Evan to be traded this summer. I have no intel but just a gut feeling.

I think we wanted to move him at the draft but someone backed out. I could be off but I think a trade for Wiggins is the move. Maybe Eric Gordon.

[Driguez]

I think this kind of exemplifies a fundamental disconnect in different lines of reasoning.

Stanley Milgram conducted some very famous experiments on obedience to authority. The goal was to explain how something like the holocaust could happen. In short, he found that roughly two thirds of the population would willingly shock someone to death with a bit of urging from a perceived authority figure.

There are different theories as to why this is. I tend to like the theory on self-domestication. We've bred subservience into our own species. It explains what makes us such wonderful corporate tools.

"The boss is right because he is the boss".

It's circular and simple-minded reasoning. Not everyone gives Clifford's words the same degree of authoritative credence.

Two years ago, the Clippers finished with a disappointing 51 wins and so decided to tear down the core of a team that seemed to have reached its ceiling. They have since turned over the entirety of their roster. They dumped or traded Chris Paul, JJ Redick, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. This past season, they won 48 games with a roster led by Montrezl Harrell and Danilo Gallinari. They were 18-9 after they traded away Tobias Harris. Perhaps the Clippers front office figured out that Blake Griffin's 23 ppg, 8 rpg, and 5 apg didn't really amount to many extra wins?

I certainly hope that Clifford's logic wasn't the reasoning behind why we committed roughly 20% of our cap space to Vucevic. I like Clifford. I think that, on the whole, he is an above average coach in this league. That said, I don't believe he is the sharpest tool in the shed and I hope that he has no direct influence on roster decisions.

I stuck with Hennigan for a long time and I haven't turned on this front office yet. That said, my honest appraisal of Weltman at present is that he is ultra-conservative and bereft of ideas.

I enjoyed this, however, I’ve been meaning to ask because of your handle, are you THE Atticus? Poet, writer, wine maker? *serious question*

[ezzzp]

I think this kind of exemplifies a fundamental disconnect in different lines of reasoning.

Stanley Milgram conducted some very famous experiments on obedience to authority. The goal was to explain how something like the holocaust could happen. In short, he found that roughly two thirds of the population would willingly shock someone to death with a bit of urging from a perceived authority figure.

There are different theories as to why this is. I tend to like the theory on self-domestication. We've bred subservience into our own species. It explains what makes us such wonderful corporate tools.

"The boss is right because he is the boss".

It's circular and simple-minded reasoning. Not everyone gives Clifford's words the same degree of authoritative credence.

Two years ago, the Clippers finished with a disappointing 51 wins and so decided to tear down the core of a team that seemed to have reached its ceiling. They have since turned over the entirety of their roster. They dumped or traded Chris Paul, JJ Redick, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. This past season, they won 48 games with a roster led by Montrezl Harrell and Danilo Gallinari. They were 18-9 after they traded away Tobias Harris. Perhaps the Clippers front office figured out that Blake Griffin's 23 ppg, 8 rpg, and 5 apg didn't really amount to many extra wins?

I certainly hope that Clifford's logic wasn't the reasoning behind why we committed roughly 20% of our cap space to Vucevic. I like Clifford. I think that, on the whole, he is an above average coach in this league. That said, I don't believe he is the sharpest tool in the shed and I hope that he has no direct influence on roster decisions.

I stuck with Hennigan for a long time and I haven't turned on this front office yet. That said, my honest appraisal of Weltman at present is that he is ultra-conservative and bereft of ideas.

That's quite the leap to justify bias.

Simple-minded reasoning would be for a fan to assume that they know more about the construction and coaching of an NBA roster than people at the top of their field in an extremely competitive industry. Those fans just don't have the data access, the experience or the knowledge base to dismiss that expertise as if it was meaningless. On top of that they do not know those people except through a highly mediated lens from fan distance; rendering their opinion of Clifford's intelligence even more comical and totally lacking self-awareness.

The Clippers are based in Los Angeles. They can churn through talent without consequence because they play in the most desirable free agent destination market in the NBA. Orlando is not Los Angeles.

[Skin]

I think this kind of exemplifies a fundamental disconnect in different lines of reasoning.

Stanley Milgram conducted some very famous experiments on obedience to authority. The goal was to explain how something like the holocaust could happen. In short, he found that roughly two thirds of the population would willingly shock someone to death with a bit of urging from a perceived authority figure.

There are different theories as to why this is. I tend to like the theory on self-domestication. We've bred subservience into our own species. It explains what makes us such wonderful corporate tools.

"The boss is right because he is the boss".

It's circular and simple-minded reasoning. Not everyone gives Clifford's words the same degree of authoritative credence.

Two years ago, the Clippers finished with a disappointing 51 wins and so decided to tear down the core of a team that seemed to have reached its ceiling. They have since turned over the entirety of their roster. They dumped or traded Chris Paul, JJ Redick, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. This past season, they won 48 games with a roster led by Montrezl Harrell and Danilo Gallinari. They were 18-9 after they traded away Tobias Harris. Perhaps the Clippers front office figured out that Blake Griffin's 23 ppg, 8 rpg, and 5 apg didn't really amount to many extra wins?

I certainly hope that Clifford's logic wasn't the reasoning behind why we committed roughly 20% of our cap space to Vucevic. I like Clifford. I think that, on the whole, he is an above average coach in this league. That said, I don't believe he is the sharpest tool in the shed and I hope that he has no direct influence on roster decisions.

I stuck with Hennigan for a long time and I haven't turned on this front office yet. That said, my honest appraisal of Weltman at present is that he is ultra-conservative and bereft of ideas.

Glorious post! I enjoy these sort of takes that shake up the normal train of common thought. I agree that Clifford is a Yes man. I don't think he gives WeHam any reason to second guess themselves.

However, I don't think he cares what they do because I think he knows coaching and is open to innovation. I do pick up on the little comments he makes here and there that often get scoffed at here. Ie. Vuc and Bamba together.... AG at the 2... Okeke used all over... etc. I bet he'd play an all Forward lineup and try to reinvent the NBA if the 5 best players WeHam gave him were all Forwards. Remember Clifford comes from the School of SVG and was here when we were the first team to implement the 4 out 1 in system successfully.

[ezzzp]

I think this kind of exemplifies a fundamental disconnect in different lines of reasoning.

Stanley Milgram conducted some very famous experiments on obedience to authority. The goal was to explain how something like the holocaust could happen. In short, he found that roughly two thirds of the population would willingly shock someone to death with a bit of urging from a perceived authority figure.

There are different theories as to why this is. I tend to like the theory on self-domestication. We've bred subservience into our own species. It explains what makes us such wonderful corporate tools.

"The boss is right because he is the boss".

It's circular and simple-minded reasoning. Not everyone gives Clifford's words the same degree of authoritative credence.

Two years ago, the Clippers finished with a disappointing 51 wins and so decided to tear down the core of a team that seemed to have reached its ceiling. They have since turned over the entirety of their roster. They dumped or traded Chris Paul, JJ Redick, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre Jordan. This past season, they won 48 games with a roster led by Montrezl Harrell and Danilo Gallinari. They were 18-9 after they traded away Tobias Harris. Perhaps the Clippers front office figured out that Blake Griffin's 23 ppg, 8 rpg, and 5 apg didn't really amount to many extra wins?

I certainly hope that Clifford's logic wasn't the reasoning behind why we committed roughly 20% of our cap space to Vucevic. I like Clifford. I think that, on the whole, he is an above average coach in this league. That said, I don't believe he is the sharpest tool in the shed and I hope that he has no direct influence on roster decisions.

I stuck with Hennigan for a long time and I haven't turned on this front office yet. That said, my honest appraisal of Weltman at present is that he is ultra-conservative and bereft of ideas.

Glorious post! I enjoy these sort of takes that shake up the normal train of common thought. I agree that Clifford is a Yes man. I don't think he gives WeHam any reason to second guess themselves.

However, I don't think he cares what they do because I think he knows coaching and is open to innovation. I do pick up on the little comments he makes here and there that often get scoffed at here. Ie. Vuc and Bamba together.... AG at the 2... Okeke used all over... etc. I bet he'd play an all Forward lineup and try to reinvent the NBA if the 5 best players WeHam gave him were all Forwards. Remember Clifford comes from the School of SVG and was here when we were the first team to implement the 4 out 1 in system successfully.

The lengths that you and the Vucevic-haters go to justify your bias is just mind boggling. LMAO Clifford a "yes-man," wow.