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Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:53 pm
by VFX
Thought this was an interesting article on power ranking young cores of every nba team.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/23/20703286/nba-young-core-rankings

They used FiveThirtyEight’s CARMELO player projections, which develop a multiseason future forecast based on a player’s history, it determines the number of wins above replacement over the next five seasons for every player on each team’s roster. They then further filtered out players 25 and under based on those projections.

Basically Orlando ranked 11th out of 30.

11. Orlando Magic
WAR: 43.0 | Best Under-25 Player: Aaron Gordon (16.2)

Most players discussed in this exercise are unproven, with large error bars in their future projections. But the Magic seem to take that uncertainty to another level. Beyond Gordon, young Orlando players include Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, injured 2019 first-rounder Chuma Okeke, and Mo Bamba—all of whom could conceivably develop into starters on a playoff team or flunk out of the league within a few years.

I’ll have to admit I was surprised to see Orlando ranked higher than teams like Sacramento and Chicago.

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:00 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
MagicMatic wrote:Thought this was an interesting article on power ranking young cores of every nba team.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/23/20703286/nba-young-core-rankings

They used FiveThirtyEight’s CARMELO player projections, which develop a multiseason future forecast based on a player’s history, it determines the number of wins above replacement over the next five seasons for every player on each team’s roster. They then further filtered out players 25 and under based on those projections.

Basically Orlando ranked 11th out of 30.

11. Orlando Magic
WAR: 43.0 | Best Under-25 Player: Aaron Gordon (16.2)

Most players discussed in this exercise are unproven, with large error bars in their future projections. But the Magic seem to take that uncertainty to another level. Beyond Gordon, young Orlando players include Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, injured 2019 first-rounder Chuma Okeke, and Mo Bamba—all of whom could conceivably develop into starters on a playoff team or flunk out of the league within a few years.

I’ll have to admit I was surprised to see Orlando ranked higher than teams like Sacramento and Chicago.


I sure wasn't.

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:11 pm
by VFX
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Thought this was an interesting article on power ranking young cores of every nba team.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/23/20703286/nba-young-core-rankings

They used FiveThirtyEight’s CARMELO player projections, which develop a multiseason future forecast based on a player’s history, it determines the number of wins above replacement over the next five seasons for every player on each team’s roster. They then further filtered out players 25 and under based on those projections.

Basically Orlando ranked 11th out of 30.

11. Orlando Magic
WAR: 43.0 | Best Under-25 Player: Aaron Gordon (16.2)

Most players discussed in this exercise are unproven, with large error bars in their future projections. But the Magic seem to take that uncertainty to another level. Beyond Gordon, young Orlando players include Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, injured 2019 first-rounder Chuma Okeke, and Mo Bamba—all of whom could conceivably develop into starters on a playoff team or flunk out of the league within a few years.

I’ll have to admit I was surprised to see Orlando ranked higher than teams like Sacramento and Chicago.


I sure wasn't.


Of course you weren’t.

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:14 pm
by fendilim
MagicMatic wrote:Thought this was an interesting article on power ranking young cores of every nba team.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/23/20703286/nba-young-core-rankings

They used FiveThirtyEight’s CARMELO player projections, which develop a multiseason future forecast based on a player’s history, it determines the number of wins above replacement over the next five seasons for every player on each team’s roster. They then further filtered out players 25 and under based on those projections.

Basically Orlando ranked 11th out of 30.

11. Orlando Magic
WAR: 43.0 | Best Under-25 Player: Aaron Gordon (16.2)

Most players discussed in this exercise are unproven, with large error bars in their future projections. But the Magic seem to take that uncertainty to another level. Beyond Gordon, young Orlando players include Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, injured 2019 first-rounder Chuma Okeke, and Mo Bamba—all of whom could conceivably develop into starters on a playoff team or flunk out of the league within a few years.

I’ll have to admit I was surprised to see Orlando ranked higher than teams like Sacramento and Chicago.

Dont really like chicago’s young players. But yeah, i thought sac would be ranked higher. Deaaron fox is gonna be good

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:16 pm
by VFX
fendilim wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Thought this was an interesting article on power ranking young cores of every nba team.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/7/23/20703286/nba-young-core-rankings

They used FiveThirtyEight’s CARMELO player projections, which develop a multiseason future forecast based on a player’s history, it determines the number of wins above replacement over the next five seasons for every player on each team’s roster. They then further filtered out players 25 and under based on those projections.

Basically Orlando ranked 11th out of 30.

11. Orlando Magic
WAR: 43.0 | Best Under-25 Player: Aaron Gordon (16.2)

Most players discussed in this exercise are unproven, with large error bars in their future projections. But the Magic seem to take that uncertainty to another level. Beyond Gordon, young Orlando players include Jonathan Isaac, Markelle Fultz, injured 2019 first-rounder Chuma Okeke, and Mo Bamba—all of whom could conceivably develop into starters on a playoff team or flunk out of the league within a few years.

I’ll have to admit I was surprised to see Orlando ranked higher than teams like Sacramento and Chicago.

Dont really like chicago’s young players. But yeah, i thought sac would be ranked higher. Deaaron fox is gonna be good


Yeah I think he’s probably the best name out of the three teams as of right now. Not a huge fan of Chicago’s roster either, but their bigs Markkanen and Carter are very promising.

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:31 pm
by j-ragg
Not sure how much I trust that stat. Fox and Hield are way more valuable than any of our young guys, plus Bagley is on his way. Interesting though.

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:34 pm
by VFX
j-ragg wrote:Not sure how much I trust that stat. Fox and Hield are way more valuable than any of our young guys, plus Bagley is on his way. Interesting though.


I thought the same, but Hield is 26. Outside of Bagley and Fox they really only have Kyle Guy and Giles. Still two of the bigger names though on the list for potential.

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:40 pm
by j-ragg
MagicMatic wrote:
j-ragg wrote:Not sure how much I trust that stat. Fox and Hield are way more valuable than any of our young guys, plus Bagley is on his way. Interesting though.


I thought the same, but Hield is 26. Outside of Bagley and Fox they really only have Kyle Guy and Giles. Still two of the bigger names though on the list for potential.

Damn forgot Buddy came in to the league so old. Makes more sense then, but yeah Fox is the cream of the crop. And I kinda undersold Bagley a little, he was really good this year. I remember we liked him a lot before the draft. Not to go OT but with Dedmon and Ariza they have a solid team. Kind of hate that Barnes deal but I love that core. Bogdan too.

Re: Ranking Orlando’s Young Core

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:29 pm
by JBSouthpaw
j-ragg wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
j-ragg wrote:Not sure how much I trust that stat. Fox and Hield are way more valuable than any of our young guys, plus Bagley is on his way. Interesting though.


I thought the same, but Hield is 26. Outside of Bagley and Fox they really only have Kyle Guy and Giles. Still two of the bigger names though on the list for potential.

Damn forgot Buddy came in to the league so old. Makes more sense then, but yeah Fox is the cream of the crop. And I kinda undersold Bagley a little, he was really good this year. I remember we liked him a lot before the draft. Not to go OT but with Dedmon and Ariza they have a solid team. Kind of hate that Barnes deal but I love that core. Bogdan too.


Yeah, Sac was in the playoff race most of the season. I like a lot of their pieces, though they might slip a little this year, more from other teams getting better..
They aren't getting by GS,LAC,LAL,UT,Den,POR, N.O., HOU, SAS