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tiderulz wrote:

GelbeWand09 wrote:Wonder why so many here want Isaac to put on mass. What makes him special is his combination of length,speed & agility. His ability to defend like a SF on the perimeter and protect the paint. The worst thing for him would be to put on mass and lose those attribrutes. He needs more strength but like Garnett, Siakam & Durant done it.
If you want him to be a strong, athletic C, he was drafted way too high. You can draft those types every year late in the 1st. round or 2nd round.
Mo needs mass because he is a C only. He doesnt have the speed to defend on the perimeter.

Siakam is 20 pounds heavier than Isaac. Garnet played 20-30 lbs heavier than ISaac. Durant is 20-30 lbs heavier than Isaac.

1. I'm pretty sure you know what i wanna say. All are pretty skinny for there height. Isaac got the same bodytype.
2. Isaac said he is 235 now. Durant is 240, Siakam is 230. Garnett weighed more in his later years, but unlike Isaac, he was playing much more in the post, on defense & offense.

GelbeWand09 wrote:

tiderulz wrote:

GelbeWand09 wrote:Wonder why so many here want Isaac to put on mass. What makes him special is his combination of length,speed & agility. His ability to defend like a SF on the perimeter and protect the paint. The worst thing for him would be to put on mass and lose those attribrutes. He needs more strength but like Garnett, Siakam & Durant done it.
If you want him to be a strong, athletic C, he was drafted way too high. You can draft those types every year late in the 1st. round or 2nd round.
Mo needs mass because he is a C only. He doesnt have the speed to defend on the perimeter.

Siakam is 20 pounds heavier than Isaac. Garnet played 20-30 lbs heavier than ISaac. Durant is 20-30 lbs heavier than Isaac.

1. I'm pretty sure you know what i wanna say. All are pretty skinny for there height. Isaac got the same bodytype.
2. Isaac said he is 235 now. Durant is 240, Siakam is 230. Garnett weighed more in his later years, but unlike Isaac, he was playing much more in the post, on defense & offense.

yes, he doesnt need to be musclebound. I think AG put on too much muscle and its messing with him. But the reason people wand Isaac to put on mass is because he needed it, if not for the strength than just to protect himself. So yes, if he is 235 now, that is fine. We dont need nor want him to be 270

RookieStar wrote:Bamba is looking bigger than Isaac in that pic despite Isaac having more years conditioning with NBA-level equipment/trainers/etc

Doesn't matter, Isaac put in a ton more cardio in the last 8 months than Mo. Bamba was barely moving for a while and just eating and maybe doing upper body workouts.

https://theathletic.com/1308724/ ($)

Behind the pay wall, so here are a few of the important bits.

-Increased his food intake to roughly 5,000 calories a day this offseason.
-Weighed 227 pounds on Friday.
-Spent 4-5 days per week at Amway Center lifting weights
-Weighed 234 pounds on July 25th
-Struggling to keep weight on, dropped 7 pounds over last 3 months

Here's what Jonathan ate on Friday of last week...

Breakfast: Eggs with cheddar cheese, bacon, two pancakes with maple syrup
Snack: Protein Shake
Lunch: Steak with pasta and mushrooms
Snack: Peanut butter and jelly sandwich
First Dinner: Two pieces of chicken, rice and plantains
Snack: Another peanut butter and jelly sandwich
Second Dinner: another plate of chicken, rice and plantains

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

https://theathletic.com/1308724/ ($)

Behind the pay wall, so here are a few of the important bits.

-Increased his food intake to roughly 5,000 calories a day this offseason.
-Weighed 227 pounds on Friday.
-Spent 4-5 days per week at Amway Center lifting weights
-Weighed 234 pounds on July 25th
-Struggling to keep weight on, dropped 7 pounds over last 3 months

Here's what Jonathan ate on Friday of last week...

Breakfast: Eggs with cheddar cheese, bacon, two pancakes with maple syrup
Snack: Protein Shake
Lunch: Steak with pasta and mushrooms
Snack: Peanut butter and jelly sandwich
First Dinner: Two pieces of chicken, rice and plantains
Snack: Another peanut butter and jelly sandwich
Second Dinner: another plate of chicken, rice and plantains

LOL, dude is straight up grubbin!

I thought Bamba in interviews talked like he was somewhere up there with calories too. He looks pretty much the same. Isaac looks like he filled out a little bit more, might’ve grown a bit too which would make it tough to notice weight anyway.

GameOver25 wrote:

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

https://theathletic.com/1308724/ ($)

Behind the pay wall, so here are a few of the important bits.

-Increased his food intake to roughly 5,000 calories a day this offseason.
-Weighed 227 pounds on Friday.
-Spent 4-5 days per week at Amway Center lifting weights
-Weighed 234 pounds on July 25th
-Struggling to keep weight on, dropped 7 pounds over last 3 months

Here's what Jonathan ate on Friday of last week...

Breakfast: Eggs with cheddar cheese, bacon, two pancakes with maple syrup
Snack: Protein Shake
Lunch: Steak with pasta and mushrooms
Snack: Peanut butter and jelly sandwich
First Dinner: Two pieces of chicken, rice and plantains
Snack: Another peanut butter and jelly sandwich
Second Dinner: another plate of chicken, rice and plantains

LOL, dude is straight up grubbin!

When are we ever going to get his measurements? It seems like the rest of the league has already done it.

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basketballRob wrote:When are we ever going to get his measurements? It seems like the rest of the league has already done it.

The implication from the article was that the Magic did official heights and weights on Friday of last week.

So we should hear something at some point before Wednesday's game.

He still looks super skinny to me. Not huge by any means

j-ragg wrote:I thought Bamba in interviews talked like he was somewhere up there with calories too. He looks pretty much the same. Isaac looks like he filled out a little bit more, might’ve grown a bit too which would make it tough to notice weight anyway.

Not sure what you guys are seeing -- I sat right behind the Magic bench last night and JI's body looked VERY different than last year. His shoulders, in particular, were larger and more fully defined and his upper arms in particular seemed both more defined and just bigger. He also seemed to have a more solid base. He is still a tall, skinny dude -- yeah. But he looked much stronger to me.

NBlue wrote:

j-ragg wrote:I thought Bamba in interviews talked like he was somewhere up there with calories too. He looks pretty much the same. Isaac looks like he filled out a little bit more, might’ve grown a bit too which would make it tough to notice weight anyway.

Not sure what you guys are seeing -- I sat right behind the Magic bench last night and JI's body looked VERY different than last year. His shoulders, in particular, where larger and more fully defined and his upper arms in particular seemed both more defined and larger. He also seemed to have a more solid base. He is still a tall, skinny dude -- yeah. But he looked much stronger to me.

I remember not recognizing him at first when I was watching the USA vs USA Select team this summer. Once the camera zoomed in I was like oh damn that's JI.

NBlue wrote:

j-ragg wrote:I thought Bamba in interviews talked like he was somewhere up there with calories too. He looks pretty much the same. Isaac looks like he filled out a little bit more, might’ve grown a bit too which would make it tough to notice weight anyway.

Not sure what you guys are seeing -- I sat right behind the Magic bench last night and JI's body looked VERY different than last year. His shoulders, in particular, were larger and more fully defined and his upper arms in particular seemed both more defined and just bigger. He also seemed to have a more solid base. He is still a tall, skinny dude -- yeah. But he looked much stronger to me.

I said I thought Isaac filled out more. I just didn’t think Bamba looked any different.

NBlue wrote:

j-ragg wrote:I thought Bamba in interviews talked like he was somewhere up there with calories too. He looks pretty much the same. Isaac looks like he filled out a little bit more, might’ve grown a bit too which would make it tough to notice weight anyway.

Not sure what you guys are seeing -- I sat right behind the Magic bench last night and JI's body looked VERY different than last year. His shoulders, in particular, were larger and more fully defined and his upper arms in particular seemed both more defined and just bigger. He also seemed to have a more solid base. He is still a tall, skinny dude -- yeah. But he looked much stronger to me.

What was your seat?

I sat in row 3 behind the magic bench..maybe we were close lol

And he looked super skinny to me lol

J-Mezzy wrote:

NBlue wrote:

j-ragg wrote:I thought Bamba in interviews talked like he was somewhere up there with calories too. He looks pretty much the same. Isaac looks like he filled out a little bit more, might’ve grown a bit too which would make it tough to notice weight anyway.

Not sure what you guys are seeing -- I sat right behind the Magic bench last night and JI's body looked VERY different than last year. His shoulders, in particular, were larger and more fully defined and his upper arms in particular seemed both more defined and just bigger. He also seemed to have a more solid base. He is still a tall, skinny dude -- yeah. But he looked much stronger to me.

What was your seat?

I sat in row 3 behind the magic bench..maybe we were close lol

And he looked super skinny to me lol

I was right behind you - row 7 section 107! And he is super skinny -- just a little thicker than last year imo.

NBlue wrote:

J-Mezzy wrote:

NBlue wrote:
Not sure what you guys are seeing -- I sat right behind the Magic bench last night and JI's body looked VERY different than last year. His shoulders, in particular, were larger and more fully defined and his upper arms in particular seemed both more defined and just bigger. He also seemed to have a more solid base. He is still a tall, skinny dude -- yeah. But he looked much stronger to me.

What was your seat?

I sat in row 3 behind the magic bench..maybe we were close lol

And he looked super skinny to me lol

I was right behind you - row 7 section 107! And he is super skinny -- just a little thicker than last year imo.

Lol look for me next time. Im in your same section. Seats 1 and 2 on row 3

"arm size" isn't really that important for basketball. Most important are legs, back and core. That's what helps you from getting pushed around, s nice strong base

The thing with JI is also the attitude. Bamba would be the best rim protector in history with JIs attitude. Isaac has great physical tools but it means nothing if you don't put everything you've got into the game.

Jonathan Isaac is...

1st in the NBA in blocks
9th in the NBA in steals
1st in the NBA in stocks (steals + blocks combined)
7th in the NBA in deflections
6th in the NBA in shots contested (non-centers)