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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#61 » by basketballRob » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:12 pm

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baldur wrote:now magic are full of 7 foot centers. isaac will play 3 again?


Heights are exaggerated....he's 6'10/6'11 unless he really grew 2 inches which I doubt but its not unheard of. I'd have to see him standing next to another 7 footer for comparison.

Anyway he and AG switch up being the 3 and 4.
The measurements everyone goes by are from when he was a junior in high school. They also say he has a 7'1" wingspan and he has a 7'6" wingspan now

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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#62 » by MoMM » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:30 pm

tiderulz wrote:I would dissuade my daughter from going to any military academy right now, but not for academic reasons

Why? Honest question from a Brazilian fan.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#63 » by MoMM » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:33 pm

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From WIKI:
Robinson scored 1320 on the SAT, and chose to go to the United States Naval Academy, where he majored in mathematics.



So he was academically in the top-10% nationally as a High School student and went to one of the hardest mathematics programs in the States; AND still got Navy to the Elite-Eight in 1986.

Naval Academy has one of the hardest math programs?


They train midshipmen to run nuclear reactors on underwater submarines. Yes the program is rigourous. Not saying it is MIT, but David Robinson did NOT take a sports-management approach at Cup-cake University as his college experience .

Let's look at Kentucky last year, for example:
QUADE GREEN - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
ASHTON HAGANS - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
KELDON JOHNSON - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
NICK RICHARDS - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
IMMANUEL QUICKLEY - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
JONNY DAVID - Kinesiology
BRAD CALIPARI - Pre-Marketing
JEMARL BAKER JR. - Exploratory Studies in Arts and Sciences
TYLER HERRO - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
ZAN PAYNE - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
REID TRAVIS - Graduate School (Masters in Health promotion with an emphasis in sport leadership)
EJ MONTGOMERY - Exploratory Studies in Agriculture
PJ WASHINGTON - Exploratory Studies in Communication

Many of those names will not complete their education, as well.

And David Robinson graduated with a Mathematics degree. Hmm.



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Exploratory Studies in Agriculture? WTF is that?
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Post#65 » by drsd » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:42 am

MoMM wrote:Exploratory Studies in Agriculture? WTF is that?


When I was a grad student at UW-Madison (the Ron Dayne years), we "students" were bemused that there was an undergraduate class called "Music Appreciation": informally known as "Clapping for Credit". It was an attendance based class; that is, if you showed up to every "lecture", which was listening to music, you would get a 100%-A. Would you be surprised to know that virtually the whole Football team took this class????


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Post#66 » by tiderulz » Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:04 pm

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MoMM wrote:Exploratory Studies in Agriculture? WTF is that?


When I was a grad student at UW-Madison (the Ron Dayne years), we "students" were bemused that there was an undergraduate class called "Music Appreciation": informally known as "Clapping for Credit". It was an attendance based class; that is, if you showed up to every "lecture", which was listening to music, you would get a 100%-A. Would you be surprised to know that virtually the whole Football team took this class????


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Jim Harrick got caught at UGA with this.

Most college students dream of getting a final exam with
questions such as: How many points is a 3-pointer worth?

That was among the questions on basic basketball knowledge on
the final exam -- and only test -- in Georgia assistant basketball
coach Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of
Basketball class in 2001.


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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#67 » by MoMM » Sat Aug 17, 2019 5:41 pm

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MoMM wrote:Exploratory Studies in Agriculture? WTF is that?


When I was a grad student at UW-Madison (the Ron Dayne years), we "students" were bemused that there was an undergraduate class called "Music Appreciation": informally known as "Clapping for Credit". It was an attendance based class; that is, if you showed up to every "lecture", which was listening to music, you would get a 100%-A. Would you be surprised to know that virtually the whole Football team took this class????


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That's why NBA is ending one-and-done, what's the point of forcing kids to go to college to take a "class" like this? It's pointless for the players. NBA should have minor leagues like NHL has, so the young players can opt to go to college or AHL, OHL or another minor league.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#68 » by pepe1991 » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:57 pm

MoMM wrote:
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MoMM wrote:Exploratory Studies in Agriculture? WTF is that?


When I was a grad student at UW-Madison (the Ron Dayne years), we "students" were bemused that there was an undergraduate class called "Music Appreciation": informally known as "Clapping for Credit". It was an attendance based class; that is, if you showed up to every "lecture", which was listening to music, you would get a 100%-A. Would you be surprised to know that virtually the whole Football team took this class????


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That's why NBA is ending one-and-done, what's the point of forcing kids to go to college to take a "class" like this? It's pointless for the players. NBA should have minor leagues like NHL has, so the young players can opt to go to college or AHL, OHL or another minor league.

One and done was more to protect kids from themselfs.
Putting age limit is probably more useful than 1 year at college rule.
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Post#69 » by drsd » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:59 am

pepe1991 wrote:Putting age limit is probably more useful than 1 year at college rule.


This is effectively what was evolving, with LaMelo Ball, Darius Bazley, Anfernee Simons, Mitchell Robinson, Terrance Ferguson, Emmanuel Mudiay - etc.


The main reason I think the NBA is abolishing 1-and-done is that the league does not want players going to China, Australia, "internships", etc. They want 18 year olds in the G-league. This "forces" that. And indeed, Okeke might be part of a new-start for the G-league, increasing its relevance and NBA-purpose.

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Post#70 » by pepe1991 » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:41 am

drsd wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Putting age limit is probably more useful than 1 year at college rule.


This is effectively what was evolving, with LaMelo Ball, Darius Bazley, Anfernee Simons, Mitchell Robinson, Terrance Ferguson, Emmanuel Mudiay - etc.


The main reason I think the NBA is abolishing 1-and-done is that the league does not want players going to China, Australia, "internships", etc. They want 18 year olds in the G-league. This "forces" that. And indeed, Okeke might be part of a new-start for the G-league, increasing its relevance and NBA-purpose.

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Tbh i'm against nba teams drafting bunch of 17 -18 years old kids. Imo it's something that in past backfired at teams who drafted them. Some of biggest busts in history like Diop, Kwame and Eddy Curry were all--- straight from highschool players.
And ones who made it ( T mac, Lebron, Kobe , KG , LEbron ) would have had as succesfull NBA career regardless of one extra, because they were simply that talented.

Just look at 5 stars, 100 rating high school recruits from past

1. Noel ( lol)
2. Muhamed ( lool)
3. Kyle Anderson :lol:
4. Steven Adams
5. Isaiah Austin

1. Andrew Wiggins ( bust?!)
2. Julius Randle ( average nba player)
3. Andrew Harrison ( out of nba)
4. Gordon (average to above average player)
5. Aaron Harrison ( out of nba )

year later:
1. Mudiay ( lol)
2. Jah
3. KAT
4. Cliff Alexander
5. Oubre


Again, main reason why one year college rule was implemented was because bad teams were self- destructing themselfs with horrific lottery decisions made by evaluating bunch of 16,17 years old kids playing against random kids at highchool. Even worse, there could be another preps-to-pros victim like Korleone Young, who entered the 1998 draft as a vaunted recruit, but was selected 40th and flamed out after playing just 15 NBA minutes. Having the option to go to college may not have saved Young’s basketball career, but it could have sent his life down a better path.

One year at college rule gives kid options.
If he is not good and will be undrafted, he can come back next year, and he will still be - at college.
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Post#71 » by drsd » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:21 am

pepe1991 wrote:Imo it's something that in past backfired at teams who drafted them.


The risks teams take with the draft is not something I will lose sleep over. Look at MLB and the NHL; these are leagues that routinely draft young players and put them in appropriate developmental leagues (often with 7-figure "signing bonuses" to sign).

If the G-league is going to evolve into a mentorship and injury recovery league, then drafting Highschool kids actually makes more sense than one-and-done, from a league and player-development perspective.

Will there be Kwame-Brown-types drafted? Of course. So what. The draft is always a hit-N-miss endeavor. If a NBA club wanted to play it safe, then only NCAA juniors and seniors would be drafted; they are "never" busts, they simply lack "upside."

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pepe1991 wrote:One year at college rule gives kid options.


Two-four years in a developmental league would do this even more. It would teach humility (bus-rides and all that). Player healthy, mental, emotional, and physical, would be a priority over anything the selfish NCAA would offer; NBA teams would have to much invested to do otherwise.

Most importantly, the outcome of a future super-star 18 year old being in a G-League for a couple years would be much, much stronger rookie year.

As this is an Isaac thread, let's look at him. If he had been in Lakeland over Tallahassee for a year, one could argue that his leg/foot injuries his rookie year would have been far less probable.

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Post#72 » by Blue_and_Whte » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:20 am

fateis007 wrote:To everyone saying he looks the same, u crazy. he ended last season at 210, so he is 25 lb heavier now.

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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#73 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:30 am

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fateis007 wrote:To everyone saying he looks the same, u crazy. he ended last season at 210, so he is 25 lb heavier now.

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That last USA picture is not from this year.
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Post#74 » by drsd » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:35 am

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That last USA picture is not from this year.


Isaac was #59 this year. Since 2016 he has worn USA jersey.

Example: USAB: Growth Spurt Helps Propel Jonathan Isaac To Success


EDIT: best I can tell, that #11 image is from 2017.


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Post#75 » by drsd » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:38 am

A 2016 non-flex image. Not sure I see a lot of arm-size difference from today.

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More like 2017:
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Post#76 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:40 am

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That last USA picture is not from this year.


Isaac was #59 this year. Since 2016 he has worn USA jersey.

Example: USAB: Growth Spurt Helps Propel Jonathan Isaac To Success


EDIT: best I can tell, that #11 image is from 2017.


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He always wears a wrap now on his left leg too.

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Post#77 » by Jiwol » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:41 am

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EDIT: best I can tell, that #11 image is from 2017.


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How about the rule in FIBA basketball that you can only use numbers 4 to 15? Does it still hold?
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Post#78 » by drsd » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:43 am

Jiwol wrote:How about the rule in FIBA basketball that you can only use numbers 4 to 15? Does it still hold?


He was #42.

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Post#79 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:43 am

basketballRob wrote:
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That last USA picture is not from this year.


Isaac was #59 this year. Since 2016 he has worn USA jersey.

Example: USAB: Growth Spurt Helps Propel Jonathan Isaac To Success


EDIT: best I can tell, that #11 image is from 2017.


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It's from the 2016 Nike Hoop Summit.
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Post#80 » by Jiwol » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:45 am

drsd wrote:
Jiwol wrote:How about the rule in FIBA basketball that you can only use numbers 4 to 15? Does it still hold?


He was #42.

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In the team scrimmages and during training he can wear any number he wants. In official FIBA games it's not possible if the rule I've mentioned is still vaild.

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