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Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season.

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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#81 » by drsd » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:21 am

Jiwol wrote:In the team scrimmages and during training he can wear any number he wants. In official FIBA games it's not possible if the rule I've mentioned is still vaild.


Presumably players on the select team would be wearing NOT-Fiba numbers. As the games are practices, by definition.

I would assume that is logical.


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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#82 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:05 pm

Regardless... the picture is from 2016, not 2019. End of story :lol:
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#83 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:58 pm

drsd wrote:A 2016 non-flex image. Not sure I see a lot of arm-size difference from today.

Thoughts?

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More like 2017:
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Thoughts are that he looks about the same. I dont care what reports say, unless he's standing on a scale in front of me he doesnt weigh what they say he weighs. Weight and height are exaggerated all the time in stories to generate clicks. Not trust worthy.

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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#84 » by pepe1991 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:40 pm

Weight won't change your playing style at all.

Some of best players were skinny .
Bird, mchale, KG, KD, AD.... you name it.
Kukoć entered pro career being 6'11 -185 . They called him pink panter because of skinny legs.


In same time in league you still have legit 7 footers who bang down low ( Nurkić , Jokić)
but you also have some "bullyball" players like J. Randle who is 6'9- 235 pounds.

In general if you track average size and weight, nba players did gained some weight at average until 2013, but new thrend is trimming down.

Isaac ,Bamba or whoever won't become better player by adding more weight. That's why that " prime is around 28" is myth at this point. Most players by the age of 28 actually decline and part of them peak later. There is no set "timetable of greatness" for any of them. It's just honeymoon rookie contract relation between fans and player and " legit expetations based on new, big contractt" .

Some of biggest nba stars today are all in their 30s ( Durant, Curry, Westbrook, Lebron). Lebron and Curry are 35 and 32.
Lamarcus Aldrige is comming off his best season in career, guy is 34

on other side Ibaka , Love , Bynum, Howard, Arenas, T mac , Deng... all peaked early and flamed out
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#85 » by SOUL » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:04 am

Don't think people are expecting his playing style to change into some bully ball sort of player, but obviously the added weight helped with him not being as injured and lets him not bounce off of players as easily on defense/can mix it up with rebounds more.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#86 » by pepe1991 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:24 am

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When you are 7 footer, with looong arms and legs, adding 10-12 pounds is like adding 5 punds for normal person. It's hardly noticable.
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Post#87 » by MagicStarwipe » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:10 am

What matters most is that he is getting stronger.
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Post#88 » by MagicFrenchie » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:39 am

Yes getting stronger doesn't mean you get dwight's shoulders instantly.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#90 » by drsd » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:13 pm

MagicFrenchie wrote:Yes getting stronger doesn't mean you get dwight's shoulders instantly.




Dwight Howard & Joakim Noah

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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#91 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:31 am

drsd wrote:
MagicFrenchie wrote:Yes getting stronger doesn't mean you get dwight's shoulders instantly.




Dwight Howard & Joakim Noah

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They are like 16 in this pic :lol:

Dwight always had crazy genetics tho
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#92 » by MagicFrenchie » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:39 am

drsd wrote:
MagicFrenchie wrote:Yes getting stronger doesn't mean you get dwight's shoulders instantly.




Dwight Howard & Joakim Noah

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Actually his frame is kinda similar to Isaac's. But like pepe said he was 16 on that :o
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Post#93 » by drsd » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:28 am

MagicFrenchie wrote:Actually his frame is kinda similar to Isaac's. But like pepe said he was 16 on that :o


Scaled to head size, the shoulder widths do looks similar in high school photos:

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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#94 » by pepe1991 » Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:42 pm

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MagicFrenchie wrote:Actually his frame is kinda similar to Isaac's. But like pepe said he was 16 on that :o


Scaled to head size, the shoulder widths do looks similar in high school photos:

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Shoulder width is more important for estetic perspective than from some strenght perspective. Remember Peković? Guy had narrow shoulders yet nobody pushed that MFer around. Ever.

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Dwight has some super unique, elite genetics. This pic of him was taken when he was like 16-17 at most. Just look at that vains and arm size.
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Post#95 » by Last Guardian » Tue Sep 3, 2019 10:50 pm

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Mo isn't standing up straight but they are very similar in height.
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Post#96 » by thelead » Wed Sep 4, 2019 9:21 pm

I was hoping that we would develop him into a new age center but with Mo, we'll have to hope that both get more efficient from the outside to provide each other some space to work in the paint. Luckily both are very agile and have decent jumpers to begin with.
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Post#97 » by RookieStar » Wed Sep 4, 2019 9:57 pm

Bamba is looking bigger than Isaac in that pic despite Isaac having more years conditioning with NBA-level equipment/trainers/etc
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#98 » by GelbeWand09 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 9:42 am

Wonder why so many here want Isaac to put on mass. What makes him special is his combination of length,speed & agility. His ability to defend like a SF on the perimeter and protect the paint. The worst thing for him would be to put on mass and lose those attribrutes. He needs more strength but like Garnett, Siakam & Durant done it.
If you want him to be a strong, athletic C, he was drafted way too high. You can draft those types every year late in the 1st. round or 2nd round.
Mo needs mass because he is a C only. He doesnt have the speed to defend on the perimeter.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#99 » by tiderulz » Thu Sep 5, 2019 12:15 pm

GelbeWand09 wrote:Wonder why so many here want Isaac to put on mass. What makes him special is his combination of length,speed & agility. His ability to defend like a SF on the perimeter and protect the paint. The worst thing for him would be to put on mass and lose those attribrutes. He needs more strength but like Garnett, Siakam & Durant done it.
If you want him to be a strong, athletic C, he was drafted way too high. You can draft those types every year late in the 1st. round or 2nd round.
Mo needs mass because he is a C only. He doesnt have the speed to defend on the perimeter.

Siakam is 20 pounds heavier than Isaac. Garnet played 20-30 lbs heavier than ISaac. Durant is 20-30 lbs heavier than Isaac.
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Re: Jonathan Isaac is looking huge compared to last season. 

Post#100 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Sep 5, 2019 1:20 pm

GelbeWand09 wrote:Wonder why so many here want Isaac to put on mass. What makes him special is his combination of length,speed & agility. His ability to defend like a SF on the perimeter and protect the paint. The worst thing for him would be to put on mass and lose those attribrutes. He needs more strength but like Garnett, Siakam & Durant done it.
If you want him to be a strong, athletic C, he was drafted way too high. You can draft those types every year late in the 1st. round or 2nd round.
Mo needs mass because he is a C only. He doesnt have the speed to defend on the perimeter.

Mo definitely HAS the speed to hold his own on the perimeter against guards... and swallow them whole in a pick and rolls situation ever so often. JUST that he really needs to improve on his instincts and his motor on that end of the court. He's a bright kid... and Thanos has the infinity gauntlet to make things a reality. hahaha

but yeah.... i hope that isaac hits a solid 235-245 lb or so as his sustainable playing weight. That will be a good balance of strength and mass to go along with his agility, speed, and athleticism. It would be huge for him as it will allow him to play confidently against bigs and shoot.... even small forwards.

i'm excited to see the development of these two guys!

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