Shams: Orlando to redshirt Okeke

PrimeThyme · Post #1 » by **PrimeThyme** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:06 pm

"creative move by both sides"

Post #2 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:11 pm

The tweet is worded poorly IMO. At least I hope it is.

Redshirting to me means they're not going to sign him until next year and not essentially burn the first year of his rookie contract on a rehab year.

But Shams mentions Okeke getting his salary. So we'll see.

Post #3 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:13 pm

Read on Twitter

Keith and I on the same page here.

If they are signing him, then they're basically announcing he's out for the season in September which doesn't make a lot of sense.

Post #4 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:15 pm

Read on Twitter

CalOrl11 · Post #5 » by **CalOrl11** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:19 pm

Ngl I am a bit confused and not that knowledgeable on all the contract details, but do we now have a roster spot open if needed or has Okeke took that spot?

Post #6 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:25 pm

Read on Twitter

There we go.

Post #7 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:25 pm

Read on Twitter

j-ragg · Post #8 » by **j-ragg** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:28 pm

Flannerz · Post #9 » by **Flannerz** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:29 pm

So he will go a year without being paid?

PrimeThyme · Post #10 » by **PrimeThyme** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:33 pm

Knightro wrote:

Read on Twitter

Really hate to be that guy but again it feels like picking NAW would have achieved both of those things. He could have helped now.

Post #11 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:33 pm

Flannerz wrote:So he will go a year without being paid?

Correct.

Okeke will be under NBA contract the following years...

20-21
21-22
22-23 (team option)
23-24 (team option)

He'll probably sign a G-League deal with Lakeland to get a little cash (like 50K) while he rehabs.

Flannerz · Post #12 » by **Flannerz** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:36 pm

Knightro wrote:
Flannerz wrote:So he will go a year without being paid?

Correct.

Okeke will be under NBA contract the following years...

20-21
21-22
22-23 (team option)
23-24 (team option)

He'll probably sign a G-League deal with Lakeland to get a little cash (like 50K) while he rehabs.

Thanks, I was wondering what we'd do for him this season to get him a few quid.

Post #13 » by **Howard Mass** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:25 pm

This move helps The Magic in terms of roster flexibility and essentially allows them to have Chuma Okeke under contract for 5 years instead of 4.

With the extra roster spot, The Magic can sign a combo guard who can play point guard/backup Augustin/MCW in case things don't work out with Markelle Fultz health wise/he needs more time.

3ddman23 · Post #14 » by **3ddman23** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:35 pm

I understand why they did it. But has this ever happened before with a 1st round draft pick? Why pick him if this was the idea all along? So what happens if he has another major Injury while he is rehabbing? This is a bit if a risky move in my eyes.

Couldn't have this been accomplished by just taking him in the second round? Or just drafting a player that could potentially contribute now like some of the tweets are saying?. This is a bit of a head scratcher

CZ Eddie · Post #15 » by **CZ Eddie** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:15 pm

I don't understand why Okeke would agree to this.
What is the upside for him?

Post #16 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:16 pm

3ddman23 wrote:I understand why they did it. But has this ever happened before with a 1st round draft pick? Why pick him if this was the idea all along? So what happens if he has another major Injury while he is rehabbing? This is a bit if a risky move in my eyes.

Couldn't have this been accomplished by just taking him in the second round? Or just drafting a player that could potentially contribute now like some of the tweets are saying?. This is a bit of a head scratcher

The most comparable example would be the Thunder drafting Josh Huestis in the 1st round in 2014 and then mutually agreeing to stash him in the G-League for his rookie season.

That one isn't totally comparable though as Huestis wasn't rehabbing an injury, he was just not that good of a player and needed the additional developmental time.

BadWolf · Post #17 » by **BadWolf** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:16 pm

Why would Okeke agree to this? Sounds like a great less of getting paid.

pepe1991 · Post #18 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:20 pm

Poor guy , went from being drafted in first round to needing to ask mom to give him some money to go out with friends :lol:

( spoiler, this is joke....)

Post #19 » by **Knightro** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:30 pm

CZ Eddie wrote:I don't understand why Okeke would agree to this.
What is the upside for him?

The upside for Okeke is that by delaying his contract for a year he gets to sign his rookie contract under the 2020 rookie scale rather than the 2019 rookie scale which is going to be increased as the cap will be going up.

I haven't done the math completely, but Okeke will end up making at least EDIT: I overshot it originally 1.1M more million over the life of the four year contract.

Even thought they're not legally allowed to per NBA rules, I'm guessing the Magic also wink-wink told his agent that they'll sign him in the summer of 2020 even if he suffers another catastrophic injury.

I assume he'll also be taking out a massive insurance policy on himself.

OrlandoSaban · Post #20 » by **OrlandoSaban** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:40 pm

at first I was ticked off when I heard this but after reading how it will each side, I'm fine with it