GelbeWand09 wrote:zaymon wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
I feel like i'm being involved in internet prak, where posters who are normally - normal , now pretend that players who , at age of 24 probably play basketball for last 15 years, are being "developed" into good basketball players over 120 days.
I just can't.
This is too much for me, have to move away and laugh my a** off from comp before i get banned from trolling too hard.
Why Heat's evolution center didn't help Justice Winslow,Emanual Terry, Yante Maten, Jordan MIckey, Derrick Walton?
They runned off secret sauce? Frenkenstein failed to catch lighting? Dexter's labaratory was invaded by Didi?
Pepe what is happening here ? Does logic finally died and we live in a world of chaos ?
What happened to you ? You moved from level headed poster to passive aggressive to aggressive poster without putting any substance to the discussions the last few months. How about you try to counterargument some of the posts instead of moving the goalposts or pull a drama queen.
Me, Matic & Knightro wrote a ton of arguments. You & pepe only harp on some sidefacts just not to answer the real questions & arguments. And all this in drama queen style, why? Maybe read the whole discussion again tomorrow, with less bloodpressure & you see it yourself.
I don't harp about side-effect i literally mock mindset about nonsense that some 25 years old can be developed over 90 days of "boot camp" in Miami.
That notion is definition of nonsense.
Why Waiters ( 25 at arrival, former 4# pick ) and Winslow ( 19 years old rookie at times) were not turned into superstars by working with same people ,same system and same "evolution center" that allegedly transformed nobodies : Whiteside, Nunn, Duncan Robinson and Herro ( this is funniest example by wide margin,as guy was litearlly lottery pick) ?
What happend ? Lab runned out of energy? System overheated in middle of operation?
Maybe just maybe Whiteside always had talent, just did not have clear head to become nba player until he was casted off nba, and out of G league and was in China ?
Just a reminder, at college he averaged: 13 points, 9 rebound and freaking 5,4 blocks a game.
Kendrick Nunn and Duncan Robinson DOMINATED in G league last year. One 19 ppg, other 23 ppg. DUncan Robinson shot almost 50% for 3. He did not wake up one day , attemped Heat evolution center for 30 days and returned as Klay Thompson.
In his first year at college he shot 95/211 (45% ) for 3.
Guy always had elite jumpshot.
Kendrick Nunn averaged 25,9 ppg at college on 48,9% FG, 39,4% for 3 and 84% FTs.Justl like everybody else, he did NOT knocked on Heat's door of "develomental studies and operations for superhumans" and become good, he was by most odds, always really,really good scorer that other teams did not notice because , as like it's case in most of the time, most scouts and GMs just fap over " Untapped Potential" and nobody wants 24 years old rookie.
Heat takes on players other teams simply overlook.
But most important part about all this is part that Knighto, MM and you conveniently left out of your points: Jimmy Butlerr and Goran Dragić. 31 and 34 years old vets that are heart of Miami Heat. ( not to mention Haslem who is still on roster, for i belive 14 years ) .
Why you didn't bring them up ? For simple reason: They do not fit your "young = sucess, everything selse = failure" agenda. They present everything you try to target on Orlando as issue. They are their Vučević and Fournier.
I could approach this topic way more serious than i did, and i feel no regrets, just a notion that guys belive 25 years old player can be developed over 1 summer is funny enough to not take whole topic too serious.
Maybe we could borrow them Iwundu ? He'll return as
HEEEEEEEEMAAAAAAAAAAN
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