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Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon

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Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#2 » by Ducklett » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:10 am

"The Brooklyn Nets, Phoenix Suns, Denver Nuggets and Dallas Mavericks are mentioned as three teams who could pursue a trade for Gordon in the offseason."

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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#3 » by Skin » Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:48 am

Im fine with getting a return for Gordon. Just too passive. That said, Isaac needs to stay healthy before they start worrying about fit. The guy is made of glass.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#4 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:43 am

It's cool if we trade him for someone good. But my main concern is just not retaining Fournier. AG can stay if he can keep his performance up like he has been.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#5 » by nymets1 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:10 am

If Isaac could stay healthy, he would be untradeable. The only player right now that's untradeable is Fultz.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#6 » by swarlesbarkley » Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:55 am

...but they hung up on Evan offers?
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#7 » by Max Power » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:37 am

It seems the idea will be to trade Gordon in the summer. Obviously building his value back up is a priority. I still think moving on from Fournier should be the thing we look at first. Gordon isn’t the guy costing us games. He’s just underachieving offensively. I really hope the Magic stay away from Dallas as a trade partner. Outside of Porzingis and Doncic, that team has nothing that helps us.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#9 » by Def Swami » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:45 am

All 3 of those teams make sense for Gordon. Spencer Dinwiddie is the only player that might be available that are on any of those 3 teams that I'd be interested in. Denver isn't trading Jamal Murray. Dallas doesn't have much.

That Suns deal for Oubre is kind of interesting. Even the deal listed is interesting depending how much you value a draft pick in 2020. That trade will still be there in the off-season.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#10 » by Skin » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:59 am

Should've just made an offer for Oubre during FA like I wanted them too.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#12 » by VFX » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:03 am

Lol. FO thinking they can get a good return for him.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#13 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:23 am

Skin wrote:Should've just made an offer for Oubre during FA like I wanted them too.

I'm pretty sure THEY wanted to do a lot of things as well.... but that doesn't mean it will get done......
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#14 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:53 am

oh well, we'll try again in 4 months :lol:

For ones who cry about keeping him, after this year he only has 2 years left on his contract, and we know for sure, that he, much like 99% of the league after second contract simply won't stay with current team.
So Magic have one and half year to trade him.
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#16 » by fendilim » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:05 am

I’m glad we didnt. He is supposed to breakout soon. ;)
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#17 » by cedric76 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:21 am

We couldn't trade AG as we want to make the playoff, but he ll get move this summer for sure

We all know the score, weham are building around the guys they went after, they want our team to be big,long and good defense at each position

The goal is to be a contender by season 2021/2022, by then they hope that:

Fultz will be a beast with a Decent 3pt shot (i m very confident it ll happen) (23yrs old by then)
Chuma to be a perfect offensively talented 3&D (wait and See)(23yrs old by then)
JI to be a PF beast (once he put on more muscle, i have no doubt he will be)(24yrs old by then)
Mo to be a very strong 3&D center (he need to put on more muscle, he did that this summer so 2 more summers should do the trick) (23yrs old by then)

They ll make sure we have money to spend during that summer so we need to expect us moving after deals expiring next summer

Evan issue:
1- he opt in :perfect, not many contending team with cap space so he could wait till summer 2021 when more teams have money
2- he opt out, we could offer him the Maximum money we can for a 1+1 with a team option, so he d still be able to test the 2021 FA market but he would have made more than his 17M next season
3-he opt out and want a long contract:
3a:we ll have to make sure contract is friendly enough to be traded, however, i dont think Weham would do that.
3b:S&T for an expiring contract+asset

I hope we go for option 2, it s best for both parties (as we could still sign him in 2021 if he becomes the 3rd piece we are all waiting for)

My plan for this summer:
Chicago 2020 1st +otto Porter +arcidiacono for Aaron Gordon + T Ross+ Orlando 2020 2nd
Move Arcidiacono for a back up SG
Draft Killian Hayes
trade our 2020 pick for a 2021 pick or try to use our orl 1st+Chi 1st to move up
Offer Evan a Huge 1+1 contract (TO)
Resign MCW on the cheap or offer him a 1+1 too (TO)


Trade AG for assets and expiring
Trade Ross for assets and expiring


Next season roster:

Fultz,mcw,Killian Hayes
Evan(on a 1+1),SG
Otto Porter,Chuma,ennis
JI.aminu
Vuc,Mo,birch
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#18 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:27 am

cedric76 wrote:We couldn't trade AG as we want to make the playoff, but he ll get move this summer for sure

We all know the score, weham are building around the guys they went after, they want our team to be big,long and good defense at each position

The goal is to be a contender by season 2021/2022, by then they hope that:

Fultz will be a beast with a Decent 3pt shot (i m very confident it ll happen) (23yrs old by then)
Chuma to be a perfect offensively talented 3&D (wait and See)(23yrs old by then)
JI to be a PF beast (once he put on more muscle, i have no doubt he will be)(24yrs old by then)
Mo to be a very strong 3&D center (he need to put on more muscle, he did that this summer so 2 more summers should do the trick) (23yrs old by then)

They ll make sure we have money to spend during that summer so we need to expect us moving after deals expiring next summer

Evan issue:
1- he opt in :perfect, not many contending team with cap space so he could wait till summer 2021 when more teams have money
2- he opt out, we could offer him the Maximum money we can for a 1+1 with a team option, so he d still be able to test the 2021 FA market but he would have made more than his 17M next season
3-he opt out and want a long contract:
3a:we ll have to make sure contract is friendly enough to be traded, however, i dont think Weham would do that.
3b:S&T for an expiring contract+asset

I hope we go for option 2, it s best for both parties (as we could still sign him in 2021 if he becomes the 3rd piece we are all waiting for)

My plan for this summer:
Offer Evan a Huge 1+1 contract (TO)
Resign MCW on the cheap or offer him a 1+1 too (TO)
Trade AG for assets and expiring
Trade Ross for assets and expiring


Next season roster:

Fultz,mcw
Evan(on a 1+1)
XXX,Chuma,ennis
JI.aminu
Vuc,Mo,birch

Why are we going for capspace and expirings? Who exactly wants to sign here?
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#19 » by Skybox » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:13 am

I really hope we don't "dump" AG for an expiring and a pick. The fact that he's redundant with Isaac doesn't make him a less than valuable asset. Some of the trade offers for him are absurd OR maybe I'm just overvaluing him. Looked pretty good last night and many other nights to me. If he were unleashed on the offensive glass, he could be an electrifying player...I don't fault Cliff for his effective defensive conservative stance but I'd love to see AG take more gambles. If Bamba turned into Gobert defending the rim with 3's on the other end, it could probably work out for AG and Isaac together but...
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Re: Report: Magic "Tried Hard" at Trade Deadline to Trade Aaron Gordon 

Post#20 » by pepe1991 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:24 am

Suns offer looked solid to me.
Exp contract, 2020 pick and Cameron Johnson woh is 39% for 3 rookie ( albe not young one ).
by some luck that pick could end up 3rd overall.
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