Official Speculation Thread '19-'20 V: Purgatory

[j-ragg]

Would you guys do Vuc for Jaylon Brown?

Brown's value is tiers above Vucevic's but yes I'd attach 15 and next year's first too if that's what it took.

[Skybox]

Would you guys do Vuc for Jaylon Brown?

Brown's value is tiers above Vucevic's but yes I'd attach 15 and next year's first too if that's what it took.

Even if value was there, BOS is contending NOW with a young team...unless they get smacked up, they'll probably be reluctant to mess with the core and the picks won't have the same value vs win-now pieces (unless cap and tax hit REAL hard), IMO

I DO like Vuc with BOS but I can't see Brown on the move...more likely Hayward

[j-ragg]

Would you guys do Vuc for Jaylon Brown?

Brown's value is tiers above Vucevic's but yes I'd attach 15 and next year's first too if that's what it took.

Even if value was there, BOS is contending NOW with a young team...unless they get smacked up, they'll probably be reluctant to mess with the core and the picks won't have the same value vs win-now pieces (unless cap and tax hit REAL hard), IMO

I DO like Vuc with BOS but I can't see Brown on the move...more likely Hayward

Honestly doubt they'd do Hayward either but I agree with what you're saying. Wouldn't make much sense w/ their timeline.

[Xatticus]

Brown's value is tiers above Vucevic's but yes I'd attach 15 and next year's first too if that's what it took.

Even if value was there, BOS is contending NOW with a young team...unless they get smacked up, they'll probably be reluctant to mess with the core and the picks won't have the same value vs win-now pieces (unless cap and tax hit REAL hard), IMO

I DO like Vuc with BOS but I can't see Brown on the move...more likely Hayward

Honestly doubt they'd do Hayward either but I agree with what you're saying. Wouldn't make much sense w/ their timeline.

Hayward only has a year left and I'm not sure they will have wiggle room for his expiring to matter for them, so I wouldn't be surprised if they used it as a counterweight to bring in another piece. Would Vucevic be that player? I kind of doubt it. I'd hope so, as they seem to be one of the only teams in the league that might be interested in the remainder of his contract, but I don't think our front office would actually consider moving Vucevic. I believe they are smitten.

[fendilim]

Didnt the celtics held out Jaylen for a Kawhi deal? Lol what would make them do Vuc for Jaylen?

[Skin]

Vuc is so underrated on this board

Would you guys do Vuc for Jaylon Brown?

This was a funny sequence.

[Nyce_1]

I didn't know Brown was that highly thought of. I just figure the Celtics weakness is lack of a quality big. And with so many scorers, it would be a easy swap.

Ah well.

[GatorbaitDD]

I didn't know Brown was that highly thought of. I just figure the Celtics weakness is lack of a quality big. And with so many scorers, it would be a easy swap.

Ah well.

Brown is one of the best young wings in the league

[j-ragg]

I didn't know Brown was that highly thought of. I just figure the Celtics weakness is lack of a quality big. And with so many scorers, it would be a easy swap.

Ah well.

Brown is one of the best young wings in the league

Better offensive player than anyone we have, and a stud defender at the age of 23. Celts had help obviously but they did it right with drafting wings like Tatum/Brown.

[cedric76]

Vuc is so underrated on this board

Would you guys do Vuc for Jaylon Brown?

This was a funny sequence.

Lol nyce_1prove me wrong

[Bensational]

If Jaylen Brown was made available then we should throw everything at a trade for him.

Vuc + Fournier + Ross for Brown + Hayward?

Vuc + Gordon for Brown + Hayward?

Ainge would likely try to get Isaac. Doubt he'd want Bamba.

Brown would give us a scorer to build around finally. Hayward becomes an expiring, but good veteran leadership in the short term.

Bamba/Birch
Aminu/Clark/(Isaac)
Hayward/Okeke
Brown/?
Fultz/?

2020 FRP = Lewis/Maxey/Terry/Pok/etc.

That's a team that can stay competitive now, and if a couple pieces hit, we could quickly leap up into contention for a top 4 seed.

[basketballRob]

I remember rumors that Ainge wanted to trade Brown for Bamba straight up during that draft.

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[Skin]

I remember rumors that Ainge wanted to trade Brown for Bamba straight up during that draft.

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I don't think that's believable. First time I heard that.

[The Effect]

Ainge would likely try to get Isaac. Doubt he'd want Bamba.

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Awesome, do it right now!

One of the best wings in the nba for a fragile, one dimensional Sf with a torn acl and history of lower body Injuries?? Where do we sign up??
Let Boston waste 2 years trying to rebuild him and then praying "it was just a series of fluke injuries", and that he develops any offensive game.... All while probably giving him a max deal

I'll take the bully

[SOUL]

Ainge would likely try to get Isaac. Doubt he'd want Bamba.

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Awesome, do it right now!

One of the best wings in the nba for a fragile, one dimensional Sf with a torn acl and history of lower body Injuries?? Where do we sign up??
Let Boston waste 2 years trying to rebuild him and then praying "it was just a series of fluke injuries", and that he develops any offensive game.... All while probably giving him a max deal

I'll take the bully

Guy shot 47/34/78, you're massively downplaying Isaac's offense and what it could be. It may never match his defense, but let's stop acting like he's some scrub.

[Xatticus]

Ainge would likely try to get Isaac. Doubt he'd want Bamba.

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Awesome, do it right now!

One of the best wings in the nba for a fragile, one dimensional Sf with a torn acl and history of lower body Injuries?? Where do we sign up??
Let Boston waste 2 years trying to rebuild him and then praying "it was just a series of fluke injuries", and that he develops any offensive game.... All while probably giving him a max deal

I'll take the bully

They already locked him into an extension. They aren’t moving Brown for anything we have. It’s funny that it wasn’t that long ago that Brown and Gordon were comparable assets. Hypothetically speaking, I have little doubt that Gordon would be the better asset right now if we had made that swap a year ago. We talk about how well Boston has drafted, but the conversation should be about how well Boston has developed what they have drafted.

It has to be nice for Ainge to know that whatever player he brings in, he can expect them to perform better than they have at other stops. I’d love to see them get swept out by Miami and replace Stevens for some dumb reason, but I know that this board would just spend the next five years or so lamenting how we blew our opportunity to hire Stevens when he was available. I have such little confidence in this front office’s willingness to be proactive about anything.

[PrimeThyme]

If Jaylen Brown was made available then we should throw everything at a trade for him.

Vuc + Fournier + Ross for Brown + Hayward?

Vuc + Gordon for Brown + Hayward?

Ainge would likely try to get Isaac. Doubt he'd want Bamba.

Brown would give us a scorer to build around finally. Hayward becomes an expiring, but good veteran leadership in the short term.

Bamba/Birch
Aminu/Clark/(Isaac)
Hayward/Okeke
Brown/?
Fultz/?

2020 FRP = Lewis/Maxey/Terry/Pok/etc.

That's a team that can stay competitive now, and if a couple pieces hit, we could quickly leap up into contention for a top 4 seed.

With all due respect, I don't think you or others have a realistic view of either Vuc's value or Browns because I can guarantee you that either of those trades wouldn't get us close to obtaining Brown. He's legitimately playing like a top 20 player right now and has been for much of this year. He has an extremely valuable skillset that translates to the postseason. It would be a toss up between Tatum or Brown for me personally. I love Tatum, but his shot selection at times and lack of elite defense compared to Brown would almost lean me to Brown.

If Boston is not getting a top 5 player back in a trade they have absolutely no reason to move him. We just don't have the assets to get a player like that. Our best shot is the lottery. I just don't see any players of that level realistically getting traded here.

[MagicFan101]

I remember rumors that Ainge wanted to trade Brown for Bamba straight up during that draft.

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There is no existence in any of the infinite multiverses for which this was true.

[MagicFan101]

Actually, what about this ...


Vuc + Gordon + #15 for Brown + Hayward

Boston now has:

Kemba
____
Tatum
AG
Vuc

+ the #14 and 15 pick (+ #26&30!) in the draft to take guards or package them and move up and try to replace Brown

Orlando overpays but gets Brown as the 23 year old playmaker next to Fultz they need who starts a fresh contract and is locked into the franchise. Also, Hayward is a $30M+ expiring deal so he + Evan leaving should help us rebuild around Fultz, Brown and Isaac with cap space.


... crazy talk but what else is there to talk about!

[MagicMatic]

Actually, what about this ...


Vuc + Gordon + #15 for Brown + Hayward

Boston now has:

Kemba
____
Tatum
AG
Vuc

+ the #14 and 15 pick (+ #26&30!) in the draft to take guards or package them and move up and try to replace Brown

Orlando overpays but gets Brown as the guy they 23 year old playmaker next to Fultz they who starts a fresh contract and is locked into the franchise. Also, Hayward is a $30M+ expiring deal so he + Evan leaving should help us rebuild around Fultz, Brown and Isaac with cap space.


... crazy talk but what else is there to talk about!

I’d be happy with it simply because it would mean they are picking a direction.

Fultz
Brown
___
Isaac
Bamba

We will need another dynamic scorer to pair with these players. Whatever that money becomes at SF would at least be an interesting conversation.