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[spinedoc]

One more incredibly sad story. Charlotte Figi, the girl who inspired the CBD movement to use cannabis as medication, just died at the age of 13. She got Covid symptoms, although not officially diagnosed yet, developed pneumonia which made her seizures come back. If you haven't heard about her before, you should read up on her. I sell Charlotte's Web in my office, and it has done amazing things for people who suffer from a variety of chronic inflammation. She was a medical refugee that needed to move to Colorado to get this very needed medication. Her seizures virtually disappeared due to CBD constructed just for her. Amazing story, RIP Charlotte.

[BadMofoPimp]

Sorry, bad information. It was 40K traveled after the restrictions by Trump. It was over 400K traveled since it first appeared in the U.S.
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-china-travel-ban-45a2da12-8063-4ad9-ba28-61cdeb1ce0b3.html

At least Trump cut down on how many would have traveled here if he hadn't been prez, lol.

Here is an article I was reading where both Trump and Biden were wrong about travel restrictions. Trump said he did it very early before anyone else, and Biden said it was way late. It was actually right in the middle of both claims. Nice try though.

"ThinkGlobalHealth, a project of the Council on Foreign Relations, has been tracking the travel restrictions on China due to COVID-19. Its country-by-country analysis of the date and type of travel restrictions shows that in the days after the World Health Organization on Jan. 30 declared the coronavirus outbreak a public health emergency of international concern, 36 countries imposed travel restrictions, including the U.S., by Feb. 2."
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trump-biden-spin-china-travel-restrictions/

I really doubt that as a most politicians trashed Trump for that Travel Ban.

It don't matter because our problems are an entire government problem instead of a single person issue. They are all corrupt, inept and self serving to me.

[BadMofoPimp]

So far, still working. They making us use 5 days of our vacation time. At least I am working in Florida now in the Treasure Coast. Rented a condo with a Yacht I can use.

[Gomagic44]

And it's useless to keep crapping on people who voted for him. By this point in time, I'm pretty sure they have their own feelings about that vote. You don't need to call anyone kid on here. Plus he's gotta be at least 30 years old.

condenscending tone. Yep, MF101 must be speaking.

frank discussion with an emergency room doctor who was prescribed the medicine and is back working. Also talked about the data analytics in use to determine efficacy of the drugs.

but no, lets be an #$%$$ on here. isnt this breaking forum rules or something? tired of your $%#$%

This thread has me embarrassed being a Magic fan who has visited this site every single day since 2004. Mostly from a select few posters that like to hear themself speak.
And again as a precursor I voted for Obama twice and for Trump. Party affiliation means zero to me, so it’s nothing political or ideological. Just dumb ignorance from posters that I respected, including a former mod, who might be the worst of all.

You can’t admit to voting for Trump and try to take the moral high ground in the same post. No such world exists kid.

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[Gomagic44]

I bet you'll get some nice time on the water with not a lot of traffic!

So far, still working. They making us use 5 days of our vacation time. At least I am working in Florida now in the Treasure Coast. Rented a condo with a Yacht I can use.

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[MagicFan101]

And it's useless to keep crapping on people who voted for him. By this point in time, I'm pretty sure they have their own feelings about that vote. You don't need to call anyone kid on here. Plus he's gotta be at least 30 years old.

This thread has me embarrassed being a Magic fan who has visited this site every single day since 2004. Mostly from a select few posters that like to hear themself speak.
And again as a precursor I voted for Obama twice and for Trump. Party affiliation means zero to me, so it’s nothing political or ideological. Just dumb ignorance from posters that I respected, including a former mod, who might be the worst of all.

You can’t admit to voting for Trump and try to take the moral high ground in the same post. No such world exists kid.

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Age isn’t the only indicator of maturity ... choosing a complete business failure + criminal + TV personality as the leader of your country shows a lack of maturity.

[BballIsLife11]

And it's useless to keep crapping on people who voted for him. By this point in time, I'm pretty sure they have their own feelings about that vote. You don't need to call anyone kid on here. Plus he's gotta be at least 30 years old.

You can’t admit to voting for Trump and try to take the moral high ground in the same post. No such world exists kid.

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Age isn’t the only indicator of maturity ... choosing a complete business failure + criminal + TV personality as the leader of your country shows a lack of maturity.

Case in point.

[BballIsLife11]

And it's useless to keep crapping on people who voted for him. By this point in time, I'm pretty sure they have their own feelings about that vote. You don't need to call anyone kid on here. Plus he's gotta be at least 30 years old.

You can’t admit to voting for Trump and try to take the moral high ground in the same post. No such world exists kid.

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Age isn’t the only indicator of maturity ... choosing a complete business failure + criminal + TV personality as the leader of your country shows a lack of maturity.

I was also anti American when I voted both times for Barack. Smh
Idiots like you on both sides of the political spectrum is a major part of the problem in this country.

[spinedoc]

It's not always easy to disagree with one another without making it personal, but we should at least try. Let's focus on questioning each other's writings and not their motivations or intellect. No backseat modding here, just a concerned citizen officer.

[MagicFan101]

And it's useless to keep crapping on people who voted for him. By this point in time, I'm pretty sure they have their own feelings about that vote. You don't need to call anyone kid on here. Plus he's gotta be at least 30 years old.

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Age isn’t the only indicator of maturity ... choosing a complete business failure + criminal + TV personality as the leader of your country shows a lack of maturity.

I was also anti American when I voted both times for Barack. Smh
Idiots like you on both sides of the political spectrum is a major part of the problem in this country.

I’m clearly not happy with the state of things, but that is different from being outright “anti-American” and I surely don’t care about the opinions of anyone is. If you’re outright against this country then why bother?

[Def Swami]

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and are free to voice them, but the moment anyone starts to make this personal, we're going to shut this thread down again. I understand that it's hard to avoid the topic of politics with regard to COVID19, but we expect everyone to treat each other with respect.

[sChOlaRlY_Magi]

I’ll take your dodge off my suggestion as an admission a mistake on the matter. I accept your apology.

AS OF MARCH 10th, there were 950 positive cases in the USA and 28 deaths. At that time all news outlets were downplaying the virus.

I take this as your admission that the Chinese Government was being honest in their statistical analysis and every government wasn't complicit in taking the virus lightly. Most of this country thought this wasn't anything serious until it was too late. But still, flame on.

I have seen your liberal persuasions on many posts, so I cannot change your views, so we can end it here and discontinue this discussion.

This is where it goes...here’s a video from Fox and the response is “CNN and MSNBC are fake too”...when Trump just LIES and denies it almost daily, it’s “what about her emails”...this absurd deflection, rationalization finger-pointing has just gotten so completely reflexive. People are so locked into their roles, they won’t consider what’s actually right in front of their noses. I don’t blame anybody in 2016 for wanting a”businessman to run things like a business” or voting to “drain the swamp” but to STILL be defending this train wreck of a human being...try “I was wrong, he’s really not what I thought, he’s really mishandled this...” Instead, they close ranks, never concede a point, never admit a mistake...so f**king disheartening. I grew up in NY. He was always an idiot. Everyday, he was quoted saying something stupid on the front of the Post and Steinbrenner saying something stupid on the back page...now this privileged model-groping Yankee slum-lord rich boy is the Adopted face of the religious right and the NRA and can do no wrong? What bizarro world did I wake up in?

I don’t blame him for being him but I’m so sad for what it says about us.

This so much, I am not even a New Yorker, but I have Google. Dude bankrupted Casinos! You may start to say "How does one even do that? 'But wait ,there is more, just in that example. Not only did he bankrupt it, but he got some friends to help buy it back out of banruptcy, and then stuck them with the bill as he bankrupted it again! lol

Thousands of lawsuits, maybe tens of thousands, and really the list goes on back to the 70's! But, yeah... He is a businessman, lets have him run the country...

I didn't even think he would do this bad, it is baffling that there is no coherent nationwide effort, still!

I read about a disease in China back last November. I am no Sherlock Holmes, but surely it is easy to deduce that he had to know about this by December! Because he gets those PBDs ,you know the ones he doesn't read...


Still he has done what a lot of people wanted him to do, he threw a grenade into the Federal governement and walked away.

This is what it looks like when you have no Federal Response to a disaster... This is what taxation without representation looks like...

[Gomagic44]

I don't think he was being serious.

Age isn’t the only indicator of maturity ... choosing a complete business failure + criminal + TV personality as the leader of your country shows a lack of maturity.

I was also anti American when I voted both times for Barack. Smh
Idiots like you on both sides of the political spectrum is a major part of the problem in this country.

I’m clearly not happy with the state of things, but that is different from being outright “anti-American” and I surely don’t care about the opinions of anyone is. If you’re outright against this country then why bother?

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[BadMofoPimp]

As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.

[Gomagic44]

I think a large problem is that you have to be insanely rich to run for office. You have to be nearly narcisistic to run for POTUS. When you only have 2 options to run a country of 330 million people its hard to throw everyone in one camp or the other. I am jealous of Europe's party system. It requires coalitions and compromise. It also doesn't help that only 30% or so of us vote. Our system seems somewhat broke. Or it's sick and Mr. Trump is the symptom. He's not the cause.


It is weird how a Yankee born billionaire is all the rednecks favorite person in the world though! I saw someone driving in Mt Dora yesterday with a massive "MAGA" flag flying from his ford ranger. Doesn't seem like a good time to throw a victory parade for the guy lol.

To the intellectual elitist vibe I'm getting from some in here, it just wasn't that simple in 2016. Hillary was running an identity politics campaign. 18 year olds were crying and toppling Confederate statues because their feelings were hurt. An Islamic terrorist had killed a bunch of our fellow Orlandonians and Hillary was afraid to speak up about it. It was not so cut and dry as you make it seem. There is nuance in the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and he has been a Trainwreck of a president, but if Hillary was such a great candidate she wouldn't have lost the election. Now we just have to pray to whatever God we all believe in that Joe doesn't screw this up.

AS OF MARCH 10th, there were 950 positive cases in the USA and 28 deaths. At that time all news outlets were downplaying the virus.

I take this as your admission that the Chinese Government was being honest in their statistical analysis and every government wasn't complicit in taking the virus lightly. Most of this country thought this wasn't anything serious until it was too late. But still, flame on.

I have seen your liberal persuasions on many posts, so I cannot change your views, so we can end it here and discontinue this discussion.

This is where it goes...here’s a video from Fox and the response is “CNN and MSNBC are fake too”...when Trump just LIES and denies it almost daily, it’s “what about her emails”...this absurd deflection, rationalization finger-pointing has just gotten so completely reflexive. People are so locked into their roles, they won’t consider what’s actually right in front of their noses. I don’t blame anybody in 2016 for wanting a”businessman to run things like a business” or voting to “drain the swamp” but to STILL be defending this train wreck of a human being...try “I was wrong, he’s really not what I thought, he’s really mishandled this...” Instead, they close ranks, never concede a point, never admit a mistake...so f**king disheartening. I grew up in NY. He was always an idiot. Everyday, he was quoted saying something stupid on the front of the Post and Steinbrenner saying something stupid on the back page...now this privileged model-groping Yankee slum-lord rich boy is the Adopted face of the religious right and the NRA and can do no wrong? What bizarro world did I wake up in?

I don’t blame him for being him but I’m so sad for what it says about us.

This so much, I am not even a New Yorker, but I have Google. Dude bankrupted Casinos! You may start to say "How does one even do that? 'But wait ,there is more, just in that example. Not only did he bankrupt it, but he got some friends to help buy it back out of banruptcy, and then stuck them with the bill as he bankrupted it again! lol

Thousands of lawsuits, maybe tens of thousands, and really the list goes one back to the 70's! But, yeah... He is a businessman, lets have him run the country...

I didn't even think he would do this bad, it is baffling that there is no coherent nationwide effort, still!

I read about a disease in China back last November. I am no Sherlock Holmes, but surely it is easy to deduce that he had to know about this by December! Because he gets those PBDs ,you know the ones he doesn't read...


Still he has done what a lot of people wanted him to do, he threw a grenade into the Federal governement and walked away.

This is what it looks like when you have no Federal Response to a disaster... This is what taxation without representation looks like...

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[BadMofoPimp]

I think a large problem is that you have to be insanely rich to run for office. You have to be nearly narcisistic to run for POTUS. When you only have 2 options to run a country of 330 million people its hard to throw everyone in one camp or the other. I am jealous of Europe's party system. It requires coalitions and compromise. It also doesn't help that only 30% or so of us vote. Our system seems somewhat broke. Or it's sick and Mr. Trump is the symptom. He's not the cause.


It is weird how a Yankee born billionaire is all the rednecks favorite person in the world though! I saw someone driving in Mt Dora yesterday with a massive "MAGA" flag flying from his ford ranger. Doesn't seem like a good time to throw a victory parade for the guy lol.

To the intellectual elitist vibe I'm getting from some in here, it just wasn't that simple in 2016. Hillary was running an identity politics campaign. 18 year olds were crying and toppling Confederate statues because their feelings were hurt. An Islamic terrorist had killed a bunch of our fellow Orlandonians and Hillary was afraid to speak up about it. It was not so cut and dry as you make it seem. There is nuance in the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and he has been a Trainwreck of a president, but if Hillary was such a great candidate she wouldn't have lost the election. Now we just have to pray to whatever God we all believe in that Joe doesn't screw this up.

This is where it goes...here’s a video from Fox and the response is “CNN and MSNBC are fake too”...when Trump just LIES and denies it almost daily, it’s “what about her emails”...this absurd deflection, rationalization finger-pointing has just gotten so completely reflexive. People are so locked into their roles, they won’t consider what’s actually right in front of their noses. I don’t blame anybody in 2016 for wanting a”businessman to run things like a business” or voting to “drain the swamp” but to STILL be defending this train wreck of a human being...try “I was wrong, he’s really not what I thought, he’s really mishandled this...” Instead, they close ranks, never concede a point, never admit a mistake...so f**king disheartening. I grew up in NY. He was always an idiot. Everyday, he was quoted saying something stupid on the front of the Post and Steinbrenner saying something stupid on the back page...now this privileged model-groping Yankee slum-lord rich boy is the Adopted face of the religious right and the NRA and can do no wrong? What bizarro world did I wake up in?

I don’t blame him for being him but I’m so sad for what it says about us.

This so much, I am not even a New Yorker, but I have Google. Dude bankrupted Casinos! You may start to say "How does one even do that? 'But wait ,there is more, just in that example. Not only did he bankrupt it, but he got some friends to help buy it back out of banruptcy, and then stuck them with the bill as he bankrupted it again! lol

Thousands of lawsuits, maybe tens of thousands, and really the list goes one back to the 70's! But, yeah... He is a businessman, lets have him run the country...

I didn't even think he would do this bad, it is baffling that there is no coherent nationwide effort, still!

I read about a disease in China back last November. I am no Sherlock Holmes, but surely it is easy to deduce that he had to know about this by December! Because he gets those PBDs ,you know the ones he doesn't read...


Still he has done what a lot of people wanted him to do, he threw a grenade into the Federal governement and walked away.

This is what it looks like when you have no Federal Response to a disaster... This is what taxation without representation looks like...

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Somedays, Joe Doesn't even remember what day it is. Should be a landslide for Donald unless he continues to mess this up.

[Gomagic44]

His economic policies seemed to benefit the markets. But his foreign policy has been horrible. He abandoned the Kurds, gave Russia our bases, buddied up to Erdogan and MBS of Saudi Arabia. He let Turkish bodyguards beat up American citizens in Washington DC. He missed an opportunity to help the Venezuelans. He had that whole failed bromance with the NK dictator.I'm anti war largely and happy he didn't escalate in the middle east(other than ordering the assassination of a sovreign countries General) but how would anyone describe the "Trump doctrine" other than an abstract disaster.

As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.

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[Gomagic44]

Malarky! If he just doesn't gaff himself to oblivion I don't see any way Trump wins re-election. He has just alienated too many sub groups in our society. He's done his best to lose the navy vote with backing a war criminal and firing a beloved captain to his crew. Then send the guy he appointed to replace the guy who quit over the war criminal thing to talk dirt to the crew and then tender his resignation upon return to the states, all while denying he knows said man.

Please don't screw this up Joe lol.

I think a large problem is that you have to be insanely rich to run for office. You have to be nearly narcisistic to run for POTUS. When you only have 2 options to run a country of 330 million people its hard to throw everyone in one camp or the other. I am jealous of Europe's party system. It requires coalitions and compromise. It also doesn't help that only 30% or so of us vote. Our system seems somewhat broke. Or it's sick and Mr. Trump is the symptom. He's not the cause.


It is weird how a Yankee born billionaire is all the rednecks favorite person in the world though! I saw someone driving in Mt Dora yesterday with a massive "MAGA" flag flying from his ford ranger. Doesn't seem like a good time to throw a victory parade for the guy lol.

To the intellectual elitist vibe I'm getting from some in here, it just wasn't that simple in 2016. Hillary was running an identity politics campaign. 18 year olds were crying and toppling Confederate statues because their feelings were hurt. An Islamic terrorist had killed a bunch of our fellow Orlandonians and Hillary was afraid to speak up about it. It was not so cut and dry as you make it seem. There is nuance in the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and he has been a Trainwreck of a president, but if Hillary was such a great candidate she wouldn't have lost the election. Now we just have to pray to whatever God we all believe in that Joe doesn't screw this up.

This so much, I am not even a New Yorker, but I have Google. Dude bankrupted Casinos! You may start to say "How does one even do that? 'But wait ,there is more, just in that example. Not only did he bankrupt it, but he got some friends to help buy it back out of banruptcy, and then stuck them with the bill as he bankrupted it again! lol

Thousands of lawsuits, maybe tens of thousands, and really the list goes one back to the 70's! But, yeah... He is a businessman, lets have him run the country...

I didn't even think he would do this bad, it is baffling that there is no coherent nationwide effort, still!

I read about a disease in China back last November. I am no Sherlock Holmes, but surely it is easy to deduce that he had to know about this by December! Because he gets those PBDs ,you know the ones he doesn't read...


Still he has done what a lot of people wanted him to do, he threw a grenade into the Federal governement and walked away.

This is what it looks like when you have no Federal Response to a disaster... This is what taxation without representation looks like...

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Somedays, Joe Doesn't even remember what day it is. Should be a landslide for Donald unless he continues to mess this up.

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[thelead]

Malarky! If he just doesn't gaff himself to oblivion I don't see any way Trump wins re-election. He has just alienated too many sub groups in our society. He's done his best to lose the navy vote with backing a war criminal and firing a beloved captain to his crew. Then send the guy he appointed to replace the guy who quit over the war criminal thing to talk dirt to the crew and then tender his resignation upon return to the states, all while denying he knows said man.

Please don't screw this up Joe lol.

I think a large problem is that you have to be insanely rich to run for office. You have to be nearly narcisistic to run for POTUS. When you only have 2 options to run a country of 330 million people its hard to throw everyone in one camp or the other. I am jealous of Europe's party system. It requires coalitions and compromise. It also doesn't help that only 30% or so of us vote. Our system seems somewhat broke. Or it's sick and Mr. Trump is the symptom. He's not the cause.


It is weird how a Yankee born billionaire is all the rednecks favorite person in the world though! I saw someone driving in Mt Dora yesterday with a massive "MAGA" flag flying from his ford ranger. Doesn't seem like a good time to throw a victory parade for the guy lol.

To the intellectual elitist vibe I'm getting from some in here, it just wasn't that simple in 2016. Hillary was running an identity politics campaign. 18 year olds were crying and toppling Confederate statues because their feelings were hurt. An Islamic terrorist had killed a bunch of our fellow Orlandonians and Hillary was afraid to speak up about it. It was not so cut and dry as you make it seem. There is nuance in the world. Hindsight is 20/20 and he has been a Trainwreck of a president, but if Hillary was such a great candidate she wouldn't have lost the election. Now we just have to pray to whatever God we all believe in that Joe doesn't screw this up.

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Somedays, Joe Doesn't even remember what day it is. Should be a landslide for Donald unless he continues to mess this up.

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Joe is going to screw it up.

[BadMofoPimp]

His economic policies seemed to benefit the markets. But his foreign policy has been horrible. He abandoned the Kurds, gave Russia our bases, buddied up to Erdogan and MBS of Saudi Arabia. He let Turkish bodyguards beat up American citizens in Washington DC. He missed an opportunity to help the Venezuelans. He had that whole failed bromance with the NK dictator.I'm anti war largely and happy he didn't escalate in the middle east(other than ordering the assassination of a sovreign countries General) but how would anyone describe the "Trump doctrine" other than an abstract disaster.

As bad as Trump has been with his mouth, if he never uttered a word, his policies haven't been that bad. And, I would take that over anyone the Left has thrown out there since Obama left as Obama was the only decent left winger I have seen from Democrats in a long time.

As far as Covid-19, I don't think any political candidate out there would have done any better of a job. Because, with the crazy Beaucracy we have here with the horrid infrastructure and loopholes to get anything done, nobody could have really made any more of a significanf impact on what has happened.

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I think his team will run on the premise like Hillary, Joe is the type of guy who flip flops faster than a fish out of water. Says one thing one day, then jumps ship to the other side the next. Joe has just as many gaffes if not more in his arsenal to attack. This should be one of the most entertaining prez races in our lifetime!