zaymon wrote: pepe1991 wrote:
zaymon wrote:If Fultz, Okeke and Bamba take another step i have nothing against finishing 7-9. If Fultz shoots from 3, Okeke starts and Bamba becomes best reserve center in the nba it could still be not enough to finish above 7, especially with injuries. Pacers could be worse, 76ers could implode, maybe Toronto will lose some veterans, but Nets will be better and Wizards could be good ( i dont think so unless they get some better veterans).
IF Fultz can't be treat and demands no attention pass 15 feet, he is no go for long term starter. And there is no objective reason to belive he can do that.
Bamba most of the nights isn't best backup C on the floor, while being only backup C on the floor, as half of the teams don't even use backup Cs any more ( Celtics, Heat for example ).
Raptors are keeping Lowry, Siakam, OG and Powell, they can now use rest of the cap to sign somebody like Derick Favors ( to replace Gasol) and go over cap to keep Vleet and Ibaka (Ibaka shorter contract , Vleet longer, obviouslly ).
We will see how much Wall declined.
Bulls with actual coach and 4th pick could be suprising team, they will have finally have healthy Porter.
Hawks now actually have nba level backup PG and actual center for once ( and backup C ).
If Pacers lose Oladipo is that really big deal? Brogdon, TJ Warren, Sabonis,Turner... more than enough to still win 45-48 games.
It's not set in stones this team is making playoffs next year.
Young teams rarely make playoffs. If we can make it in stronger east next year while having Fultz, Okeke, Bamba and our 2020 frp in rotation I call it a good season. Look at successful "young" teams. Max 2 young players < 24.
Boston: Walker 30, Hayward 30, Wanamaker 30, Theis 28, Kanter 27, Smart 26, Brown 24, Tatum 22
Heat: Dragic 34, Butler 31, Crowder 30, Olynyk 29, Robinson 26, Nunn 24, Adebayo 23, Herro 20
Denver: Millsap 35, Barton 29, Craig 29, Harris 26, Grant 26, Jokic 25, Morris 25, Murray 23, Porter 22
While we this year:
Augustin 32, Ennis 30, Vucevic 29, Ross 29, MCW 28, Fournier 27, Aaron Gordon 25, Fultz 22, Isaac 22, Bamba 22.
If we can add Okeke 22, and another 20 y.o rookie and make playoffs it will be outlier. Such young teams very rarely succed. Especially with such raw or flawed prospects as Fultz and Bamba. How could anybody expect we will be top 4 team this year with that many injuries ? Madness. If we cant make it to the post season we will be in the lottery in propably very strong draft. Its basically win- win with such a young rotation.
So good season is sucking with young guys now? I guess Suns and Kings are kings (pun intended ) of sucess
If Magic make playoffs, once again, it will be despite young players, not because of them. Where Celtics and Nuggets make playoffs because of their young players. Because their young players are actually talented and productive.
Injuries happen, it's not excuse and never will be.
Difference between planning to be bad for year or two and ending up being bad as result of poor asset menagment, salary stuffing and having no clue how to build proper team are two separate things. Magic fron office is looking like later thing.
Magic simply have no cap space. Period. Magic aslo having " young core" without any "special" talent. So it's not really young core but bunch of unpolished players that belong in " young" category by default. Young does not mean good or super talented. (easly biggest misconception among sport fans alltogether ).
Magic don't even have strong "experienced" core. It's just Vučević who is above average player on whole roster and couple of solid rotation players like Gordon, Evan, Isaac and DJ. 2 of 4 probably won't even play for Magic next year ( one won't for sure ).
There are only three objective options here:
a) flip vets to multiple lower salary players and picks
b) flip some young guys into actually proven players without mortgaging whole future
c) flip all assets for superstar
a) option can easly end up being disaster that costs them their jobs, that's main reason why they don't do it
b) option requires talent, some luck and good eye for a talent. Not what we saw from We-Ham last 3 years
c) option is least realistic mostly because not many superstars are traded, but it's easiest path to being relevant franchise.
Or you can do nothing, be one year older, still pretend that Isaac was your Durant and him not playing you are robbed of some HOF - 30 000 career points player, while he was 12 ppg, defense only player. Not my problem.