pepe1991 wrote:tiderulz wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
1) Nothing stops Fultz from shooting now other than his condition so his issue is irrelevant who he plays with
2) Okeke is yet to show he is NBA player. This might be most overhyped post ACL tear, two years away from basketball, not even lottery pick in nba history by Orlando fans
3) nobody stopped him from being just that for 2 years straight other than his inability to be that
4) and once again, it's on him, not players around him to be nba ready
Hawks are also just few steps from 60 wins ... if..
a) Cam Reddish becomes new Kawhi
b) Trae Young grows up 3 inches and gets 30 pounds of muscles
c) De'andre Hunter is new Klay Thompson
it's not impossible it's just highly unlikely.
i think you are hating on the Hawks just a little. I know you dont like Young and thought he would be a bust. Collins is a legit scorer at PF and they have Capela to help shore up defense. Hunter projects as a solid 2-way wing. Reddish will be interesting to see how he develops, but he did play fairly decently especially as a rookie, in 2020 (12/4 in Jan, 13/3 in Feb, 17/4 in March). I dont believe Reddish has to become Kawhi like. And they will either add #6 or trade it for a player. and they have a lot of cap space.
You just defend them because you live there.
What's the positive take on 20-47 team , that last year was 29-53 team? They got even worst.
Funniest part about Atlanta is that both their offensive rating and defensive rating are actually worst than previous year. And ofc, win percentage got worst.
Only thing they had "going" witch means literally nothing in reality, is that they overstuffed roster with bunch of teens. And last time I check, nobody gives you youth-benefits for playing kids in professional league.
Cam Reddish and Hunter showed nothing. Their RPMs show they are some of the worst nba players among rotation players. Hunter isn't even that young. Guy turns 23 in 2 months.
And as far as their "core" of Collins and Young goes, sure they put up 29 and 21 ppg, but how many of those points are products of them playing garbage time , inflated by pace and playing no defense whatsoever? There was period of time when Kevin Love averaged 26 points and 15 rebounds a game (in separate years) where in reality he was at best 3rd best player on championship team where one guy had to be top 3 player of all time among players better than him to make it work.
One thing this playoffs this year showed and proved. Teams where 6'2 guys are best players never go anywhere, ragardless of talant. Lillard, Chris Paul, Westbrook combine for 0 nba finals. Even if you go in past and look at Nash, Kidd, Stockton , Iverson, result is always the same. They never won anything.
Steph is outliner who won ring in same year where Cavs lost Irving and Love and played bunch of nobodies and Lebron. Year later same Steph Curry- led team couldn't even finish 3-1 lead. And as history showed, without KD he would never play nor win nba finals of 2017 and 2018. And that's one of the best guards in nba history. Maybe best point guard since Magic ( who was 6'9 and not even your standard PG ).
Anyway. Hawks now have Capela, Collin, Young and bunch of other players, i still can't imagine them winning 35 games.
they lost Collins due to failed test for 25 games i think and they went 4-21. I believe they would have won some of those games had he been playing. Cam showed nothing? I showed he averaged about 14/4, 39% from 3 after Xmas. Hunter put up 12/4 in his rookie year. RPM depends a lot on the whole team, it is not an individual stat. You are just hating on that team.
Who says Young is the best player? maybe its Collins. If they took the same amount of shots, Collins would outscore Young. Isaiah Thomas of Bad Boy pistons? Allen Iverson took Philly to finals. Westbrook is 6'3. Lillard plays on a team that is just bad fitting. they spent on their money on the back court. And was CP3 the best player on the Clippers or was it Blake?
Tell you what, come next season, we can make a friendly wager on the Hawks winning more than 35 games.