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poll: who will Orlando draft?

Anthony Edwards
0
No votes
LaMelo Ball / Isaac Okoro
0
No votes
Tyrese Haliburton
3
7%
Kira Lewis / Killian Hayes
11
24%
Devin Vassell
1
2%
Aaron Nesmith
4
9%
RJ Hampton
8
18%
Tyrese Maxey / Josh Green / Tyrell Terry
8
18%
Cole Anthony
7
16%
Other / trade out of draft all-together
3
7%
 
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poll: who will Orlando draft? 

Post#1 » by drsd » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:53 pm

Jeff Weltman, President of Basketball Operations, is quoted the Magic has discussed trading up, trading down, and the most likely outcome is for the team to stand pat and draft at #15.

As there is so much "flexibility" in interpreting his words, who do you see the drafting?
(( This is not a "who do you want" question as the team may be "certain" to draft a player you are not happy with )).

My list is names we have thrown around. (If you believe the Magic will trade up to draft James Wiseman, for example, you have a unique voice on such a draftee).

For me the list of names we have discussed is:
Anthony Edwards
LaMelo Ball
Isaac Okoro
Tyrese Haliburton
Kira Lewis
Killian Hayes
Devin Vassell
RJ Hampton
Tyrese Maxey
Josh Green
Cole Anthony
Aaron Nesmith
Tyrell Terry

I need to bundle some to get to the 10-list limit.
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Post#2 » by ucfmay2000 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:05 pm

drsd wrote:Jeff Weltman, President of Basketball Operations, is quoted the Magic has discussed trading up, trading down, and the most likely outcome is for the team to stand pat and draft at #15.

As there is so much "flexibility" in interpreting his words, who do you see the drafting?
(( This is not a "who do you want" question as the team may be "certain" to draft a player you are not happy with )).

My list is names we have thrown around. (If you believe the Magic will trade up to draft James Wiseman, for example, you have a unique voice on such a draftee).

For me the list of names we have discussed is:
Anthony Edwards
LaMelo Ball
Isaac Okoro
Tyrese Haliburton
Kira Lewis
Killian Hayes
Devin Vassell
RJ Hampton
Tyrese Maxey
Josh Green
Cole Anthony
Aaron Nesmith
Tyrell Terry

I need to bundle some to get to the 10-list limit.


Magic will select Tyrell Terry.
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Post#3 » by jonbob17 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:14 pm

Yesterday's press conference should have given us a pretty good clue. They won't pick someone based on need (shooting).
I wouldn't be surprised if they took Jayden McDaniels.
It's going to be whoever is highest on their board, maybe they tick off, true PFs and centers.

"I think there’s always a premium on shooting. But there’s also a premium on competitiveness and toughness and IQ. This league is becoming about being able to guard out (to the perimeter) on five-outs. It’s about skill. It’s about toughness."
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Post#4 » by Def Swami » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:22 pm

The Magic are going with RJ Hampton if he's still there. Long, athletic, can't shoot, high upside, may not play for 2 years because he's bad, might bust out of the league, pray he hits like Giannis.

I think their other choice might be Kira Lewis Jr., but I don't anticipate him still being available at #15.
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Post#5 » by The Effect » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:25 pm

I hope wrong, but I keep saying it and I truly believe it, Josh Green is the WeHam prototype and if we stay at 15, I predict he's the pick

With that said, I'm holding out hope that it's cole anthony or they sell the farm for Anthony Edwards
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Post#6 » by zaymon » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:02 pm

I dont have idea who we will pick but i chose Maxey/Green/Terry, becouse they are three options instead of one :p

Player who reminds me past selections the most is Devin Vassell, but we would have to trade up and i dont know if he is worth it.
Green is tough, smart and can shoot a little. Worse team defender than Vassell but a lot better on ball defender. Not a lot of players with his tools in the nba have totally busted.
Maxey is another interesting pick. Would be a nice fit next to Fultz if his shooting comes around. His finishing is great but i dont know if i want him with the ball in his hands.
Terry is getting hyped but i dont see us drafting undersized guard without great handle or passing.
Hayes seems to slip a little in mocks, he would be a nice get.
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Post#7 » by MagicFan4Lyfe » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:05 pm

Who cares.

We will still roll out the Rob Hennigan team again and bury our rookies in the bench so we can see again if Aminu, Fournier and Vuc can get into the second round.
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Post#8 » by MagicFan101 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:11 pm

The Effect wrote:I hope wrong, but I keep saying it and I truly believe it, Josh Green is the WeHam prototype and if we stay at 15, I predict he's the pick

With that said, I'm holding out hope that it's cole anthony or they sell the farm for Anthony Edwards


Everything you said makes sense.

Minus the “I’m holding out hope it’s Cole Anthony.”

This guy has done nothing but underwhelm and disappoint at every step. Nothing in his profile suggests he is anything more than an undersized spark off the bench.

We have a proven and better version of that already in Ross.

I’m all ears and fully open minded to be sold on anyone right now. The Magic are desperate for a miracle. So please. Explain to me what I’m missing here.
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Post#9 » by VFX » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:23 pm

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:Who cares.

We will still roll out the Rob Hennigan team again and bury our rookies in the bench so we can see again if Aminu, Fournier and Vuc can get into the second round.
We are the Sacramento Kings of the East. Maybe worse. Let that settle in for a minute.


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Post#10 » by Knightro » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:25 pm

It's so hard to predict because picks 9-14 are so jumbled up and could go in any direction.

A lot of national media types are convinced that Kira Lewis Jr.'s floor is Orlando at 15, but will he even be available?
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Post#11 » by pepe1991 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:42 pm

Voted for Nesmith because he would be my pick, but i think Cole Anthony could be our pick
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Post#12 » by tiderulz » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:53 pm

I dont want RJ Hampton, but if pattern holds, thats who the front office drafts
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Post#13 » by Skin » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:56 pm

I voted other.

Aleksej Pokusevski / Jaden McDaniels / Robert Woodard

Who won't be available: Vassell / Nesmith / Hampton
Who will be available: Terry / Maxey / Lewis / Anthony / Green / Bey

Who I think would be the best for us: Jayden Scrubb - I can't get over what I see when I watch this guy. Maybe it's a factor of fresh eyes on the latest discovery, but I love how he moves and the skill that he displays. Plus, I hate the thought of the teams giving him multiple interviews actually getting him - Heat / Celtics / Thunder
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Post#14 » by basketballRob » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:09 pm

If Haliburton makes it past Chicago, I think we move up and pick him.

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Post#15 » by The Effect » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:35 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
The Effect wrote:I hope wrong, but I keep saying it and I truly believe it, Josh Green is the WeHam prototype and if we stay at 15, I predict he's the pick

With that said, I'm holding out hope that it's cole anthony or they sell the farm for Anthony Edwards


Everything you said makes sense.

Minus the “I’m holding out hope it’s Cole Anthony.”

This guy has done nothing but underwhelm and disappoint at every step. Nothing in his profile suggests he is anything more than an undersized spark off the bench.

We have a proven and better version of that already in Ross.

I’m all ears and fully open minded to be sold on anyone right now. The Magic are desperate for a miracle. So please. Explain to me what I’m missing here.


With cole, i get the people doubting him, but the talent is there, the attitude is there, the ability to take it to the next level is there, the pedigree is there, and the production was there.
I think he was really hurt by the fact that he was on a team with 0 other NBA level talent while playing at a nationally covered school like north carolina. He probably felt he HAD to take over because everyone was watching and yet no one else could help him and thats why he was a "chucker" with a bad average. Also,I know people will say it doesnt matter, but i think the fact that he was the #1 HS prospect for a couple years, and was the MVP of every camp and all-star he played in at the HS level says alot about his talent vs the other guys in this class.


Does he have flaws, of course, every player in this draft has flaws. The #1 pick this year (edwards) has major flaws (but hes still a cant miss prospect to me), so sure Anthony isnt a cant miss prospect, but To me, he has the highest ceiling of anyone outside the top picks, and even still he could be better than guys like ball or haliburton.
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Post#16 » by The Effect » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:39 pm

BAMBAEXPRESS wrote:Who cares.

We will still roll out the Rob Hennigan team again and bury our rookies in the bench so we can see again if Aminu, Fournier and Vuc can get into the second round.
We are the Sacramento Kings of the East. Maybe worse. Let that settle in for a minute.

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Post#17 » by Xatticus » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:15 pm

Knightro wrote:It's so hard to predict because picks 9-14 are so jumbled up and could go in any direction.

A lot of national media types are convinced that Kira Lewis Jr.'s floor is Orlando at 15, but will he even be available?


I'll be surprised. A lot of teams ahead of us have worked him out and teams only get to work out 10 guys. Supposedly, the Knicks, Bulls, and Pistons have all had him in. I doubt the Bulls take him unless they move down. They seem to be really interested in Williams, but maybe that's a smokescreen. There just seems to be too many teams intrigued by Lewis for him to fall to 15.
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Post#18 » by MagicFan101 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:21 pm

The Effect wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
The Effect wrote:I hope wrong, but I keep saying it and I truly believe it, Josh Green is the WeHam prototype and if we stay at 15, I predict he's the pick

With that said, I'm holding out hope that it's cole anthony or they sell the farm for Anthony Edwards


Everything you said makes sense.

Minus the “I’m holding out hope it’s Cole Anthony.”

This guy has done nothing but underwhelm and disappoint at every step. Nothing in his profile suggests he is anything more than an undersized spark off the bench.

We have a proven and better version of that already in Ross.

I’m all ears and fully open minded to be sold on anyone right now. The Magic are desperate for a miracle. So please. Explain to me what I’m missing here.


With cole, i get the people doubting him, but the talent is there, the attitude is there, the ability to take it to the next level is there, the pedigree is there, and the production was there.
I think he was really hurt by the fact that he was on a team with 0 other NBA level talent while playing at a nationally covered school like north carolina. He probably felt he HAD to take over because everyone was watching and yet no one else could help him and thats why he was a "chucker" with a bad average. Also,I know people will say it doesnt matter, but i think the fact that he was the #1 HS prospect for a couple years, and was the MVP of every camp and all-star he played in at the HS level says alot about his talent vs the other guys in this class.


Does he have flaws, of course, every player in this draft has flaws. The #1 pick this year (edwards) has major flaws (but hes still a cant miss prospect to me), so sure Anthony isnt a cant miss prospect, but To me, he has the highest ceiling of anyone outside the top picks, and even still he could be better than guys like ball or haliburton.


What role does he fill on this team?

If he is a backup then all scouting reports suggest he can’t play the PG playmaker role at the next level. We have Evan + Ross for the time being so a backup SG isn’t how I want to use this pick.

Kira Lewis makes more sense to me to fill in for DJ if that is the direction we want to go.

I see a few reports offering more positive reviews and giving “Kemba Walker Vibes” as their comps. Could he play a CJ role next to Fultz in a starting lineup?

... I don’t see it working but maybe that is the goal? Roll out:

Fultz
Anthony
Chuma
AG
Bamba

And tank for Cade
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Post#19 » by IllMagic04 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:57 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
The Effect wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Everything you said makes sense.

Minus the “I’m holding out hope it’s Cole Anthony.”

This guy has done nothing but underwhelm and disappoint at every step. Nothing in his profile suggests he is anything more than an undersized spark off the bench.

We have a proven and better version of that already in Ross.

I’m all ears and fully open minded to be sold on anyone right now. The Magic are desperate for a miracle. So please. Explain to me what I’m missing here.


With cole, i get the people doubting him, but the talent is there, the attitude is there, the ability to take it to the next level is there, the pedigree is there, and the production was there.
I think he was really hurt by the fact that he was on a team with 0 other NBA level talent while playing at a nationally covered school like north carolina. He probably felt he HAD to take over because everyone was watching and yet no one else could help him and thats why he was a "chucker" with a bad average. Also,I know people will say it doesnt matter, but i think the fact that he was the #1 HS prospect for a couple years, and was the MVP of every camp and all-star he played in at the HS level says alot about his talent vs the other guys in this class.


Does he have flaws, of course, every player in this draft has flaws. The #1 pick this year (edwards) has major flaws (but hes still a cant miss prospect to me), so sure Anthony isnt a cant miss prospect, but To me, he has the highest ceiling of anyone outside the top picks, and even still he could be better than guys like ball or haliburton.


What role does he fill on this team?

If he is a backup then all scouting reports suggest he can’t play the PG playmaker role at the next level. We have Evan + Ross for the time being so a backup SG isn’t how I want to use this pick.

Kira Lewis makes more sense to me to fill in for DJ if that is the direction we want to go.

I see a few reports offering more positive reviews and giving “Kemba Walker Vibes” as their comps. Could he play a CJ role next to Fultz in a starting lineup?

... I don’t see it working but maybe that is the goal? Roll out:

Fultz
Anthony
Chuma
AG
Bamba

And tank for Cade
The role he would play in my eyes is a guy who can take the basketball and put it in the basket. We are lacking that. Im assuming we either move Fournier at the deadline or just let him walk at seasons end so that opens up back up SG minutes or even starters mins if we wanna keep Ross coming off the bench. I see no reason Fultz and Cole couldnt play together. Dam and CJ play together currently. Not that Im comparing. Im fine taking Cole depending on who else is there.

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Post#20 » by Xatticus » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:35 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
The Effect wrote:
With cole, i get the people doubting him, but the talent is there, the attitude is there, the ability to take it to the next level is there, the pedigree is there, and the production was there.
I think he was really hurt by the fact that he was on a team with 0 other NBA level talent while playing at a nationally covered school like north carolina. He probably felt he HAD to take over because everyone was watching and yet no one else could help him and thats why he was a "chucker" with a bad average. Also,I know people will say it doesnt matter, but i think the fact that he was the #1 HS prospect for a couple years, and was the MVP of every camp and all-star he played in at the HS level says alot about his talent vs the other guys in this class.


Does he have flaws, of course, every player in this draft has flaws. The #1 pick this year (edwards) has major flaws (but hes still a cant miss prospect to me), so sure Anthony isnt a cant miss prospect, but To me, he has the highest ceiling of anyone outside the top picks, and even still he could be better than guys like ball or haliburton.


What role does he fill on this team?

If he is a backup then all scouting reports suggest he can’t play the PG playmaker role at the next level. We have Evan + Ross for the time being so a backup SG isn’t how I want to use this pick.

Kira Lewis makes more sense to me to fill in for DJ if that is the direction we want to go.

I see a few reports offering more positive reviews and giving “Kemba Walker Vibes” as their comps. Could he play a CJ role next to Fultz in a starting lineup?

... I don’t see it working but maybe that is the goal? Roll out:

Fultz
Anthony
Chuma
AG
Bamba

And tank for Cade
The role he would play in my eyes is a guy who can take the basketball and put it in the basket. We are lacking that. Im assuming we either move Fournier at the deadline or just let him walk at seasons end so that opens up back up SG minutes or even starters mins if we wanna keep Ross coming off the bench. I see no reason Fultz and Cole couldnt play together. Dam and CJ play together currently. Not that Im comparing. Im fine taking Cole depending on who else is there.

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