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Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15

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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1461 » by Skin » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:48 pm

I think it's safe to say we HIT on that 16th pick! :D

Wow, WeHam. Wow. I was a doubter on this one. It was always low risk, high reward, but he's sinking his shots and that's been a beautiful thing. The kind of moves winning organizations need to make.

I hope all the Suggs Debbie Downers look at Cole's progress as an example of not giving up on a young player's potential.
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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1462 » by IllMagic04 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:52 pm

I just don't get why its a bad thing that people are excited with his development. I never looked at Cole as a guy with star potential. Off the bench mircorwave guy was my expectation. Those shots he was taking and making in that Wolves and Jazz game got me excited and thinking MAYBE he can more than I thought. Some of the playmaking hes shown makes me think MAYBE he can be more than I thought. He has plenty if bad moments too but hes shown lots of flashes of parts of his game I didnt think he had in him at all. And its only year 2. Lets just wait and see.

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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1463 » by p0peye » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:55 pm

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p0peye wrote:So, ever since Anthony joined, the projection on him is that he can only succeed as a scorer. He started his rookie year badly, but kept improving and in rather short time he seems capable of fulfilling that role. Why are we putting him down or crying about it now?

Is he a starter or not? Yes, on this team, that is given. I mean, take your pink glasses off people. Would that role change if we had a real team? Duh. If his shooting percentages remain good, I see no reason why Anthony wouldn't be able to have the same role as JJ Redick.


Redick is one of the game's all-time best players in terms of moving without the ball and figuring out how to get open without actually dribbling the basketball.

Cole Anthony is most certainly not that. He hasn't shown at any level - high school, college, summer league or NBA - that he's effective whatsoever without the basketball in his hands.

And if he can't be effective without the basketball in his hands, that means he's going to have to play point guard, and several people (myself included) don't think he has the natural playmaking or the defense to be a starting point guard on a good team.

That doesn't mean he's a bad player. It doesn't mean he can't have a role on a good team.


You are right, that was really bad example from my side. Jameer Nelson better comp? I have to upgrade as my original comp I was hoping Anthony might turn into was DJ Augustin.
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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1464 » by IllMagic04 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:56 pm

thelead wrote:Imagine being a fan of building a team around CJ McCollum or Jordan Clarkson and letting them handle the rock the majority of time he's on the court

And by the way, if calling Cole a CJ McCollum/Clarkson level player is hate, I think I might be done on this forum
Too early to say that hes Clarkson or McCollum. Too early to say we are building around him. He handles the ball alot cause we don't have any other options. May turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1465 » by MagicFan101 » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:46 pm

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Skybox wrote:
do you really think anybody is considering him the savior or future leader of this team? He's doing great in an absence of leaders. He might be a bigger piece than we all imagined but nobody's calling him MVP and meaning it...All good.


The MVP chanters are just enjoying the game. Sure. But we do have many people who believe Cole is solidifying himself as the long term starter. This baffles me. They see volume scoring and can’t see the flaws in his game. These are likely they same people who always called for Ross to start.

Cole has value for us and can be a key piece to our rebuild. But let’s be realistic about where he fits in the long term plan!


The flaws in Cole’s game can be improved upon. He’s not a finished product by any means.


Here are two scenarios …

Isaac can continue being the guy he is today and simply make the same shots he already takes at a higher rate.

Cole can complete change his entire mind set and approach to basketball. His entire philosophy of the game will change and he will see that game is a way he has never chosen to despite living his entire life as the son of an NBA player, being coached by top junior coaches, by a UNC staff and now NBA coaches for over a year. None of them got through to him but he will still soon see the light and change who he is for the better.

Yes, young players develop and change.

Both of the above are possible yet neither is likely at this stage. Still, which would you gamble on?
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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1466 » by Rainwater » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:48 pm

thelead wrote:Imagine being a fan of building a team around CJ McCollum or Jordan Clarkson and letting them handle the rock the majority of time he's on the court :lol:

And by the way, if calling Cole a CJ McCollum/Clarkson level player is hate, I think I might be done on this forum


Man, even calling Cole CJ McCollum at this point is a bit much for me, lol.
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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1467 » by Rainwater » Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:02 am

IllMagic04 wrote:I just don't get why its a bad thing that people are excited with his development. I never looked at Cole as a guy with star potential. Off the bench mircorwave guy was my expectation. Those shots he was taking and making in that Wolves and Jazz game got me excited and thinking MAYBE he can more than I thought. Some of the playmaking hes shown makes me think MAYBE he can be more than I thought. He has plenty if bad moments too but hes shown lots of flashes of parts of his game I didnt think he had in him at all. And its only year 2. Lets just wait and see.

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It's just that we have been through this 100 times already with guys like Victor, Harris, AG, Vuc, Mo and so on. Guys who are decent and really don't help the team win but are hyped up like stars.

Yes, I understand fans being fans and being excited about certain young players but just because you score a lot points on a bad team doesn't make you a superstar player.
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Re: Cole World: Orlando Magic Select Cole Anthony at #15 

Post#1468 » by thelead » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:11 am

Rainwater wrote:
thelead wrote:Imagine being a fan of building a team around CJ McCollum or Jordan Clarkson and letting them handle the rock the majority of time he's on the court :lol:

And by the way, if calling Cole a CJ McCollum/Clarkson level player is hate, I think I might be done on this forum


Man, even calling Cole CJ McCollum at this point is a bit much for me, lol.

100%. If he keeps up this level of efficiency, then sure but we haven't seen that sustained long enough. I'm talking about ceiling from the flashes we've seen. His efficiency could fall off a cliff and a lot of the chatter around here would stop. I don't hope for that but we don't know if he can sustain this or not.
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