Xatticus wrote:Bigmagicfan82 wrote:jonbob17 wrote:
Exactly. Do you hear Grant Riller complaining about the talent around him at Charleston, or Flynn at SDSU? Trae young at Oklahoma.
These guys were still effecient and scored well, even though everybody could collapse defenses on them.
I don't hate the pick. His NC stats is a small sample size. I think we should weight the prep career too, and I do think he has plenty of upside. There are plenty of concerns. One is his age, he is already 20 and a half, a year older than most of these other freshman. Lack of passing. It does seem like you need a PG that can score the ball in the modern nba. I would have certainly like to see us trade up into the mid lottery, but apparently we don't have the assets (outside future picks) to get that done.
If I remember correctly, wasn't one of the complaints against Trae Young that he took inefficient shots and he was a chucker. I remember a lot of people wondered if he would translate to the next level.
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It was, but it's not really a similar situation. Young took tougher shots than Anthony, but he was also much more efficient. It was quite clear that Young was going to be a really good shooter, especially if he could rein in his shot selection a bit. Anthony was terribly inefficient. His true shooting and effective field goal percentages were abysmal for the collegiate level. Young's were quite good.
Young was also vastly superior as a facilitator. His AST/TO and AST/USG ratios were far better. Basically, anyone with an assist percentage lower than their usage isn't a point guard. Anthony's was well below.
I've been digging for comps and it is really difficult to find anything favorable. You could compare him to Iverson's freshman season at Georgetown, but Iverson was a year younger despite having gone to prison and he improved demonstrably from that point on. It's difficult to overstate how poor the numbers were for Anthony. Sexton is a decent comp, but Sexton had a much better year at Alabama. Maxey isn't all that dissimilar, but even he looks like the objectively better prospect. Maxey played off the ball, but he managed a more favorable assist-to-usage ratio than Anthony.
You basically have to hope and pray that the injury had a significantly negative impact on his performance this past year. Anthony has been groomed as a top prospect for years. He was significantly older than his high school competition. He spent a year at Oak Hill where they fudged the numbers to inflate his high school stats. Every action was taken to give Anthony the sheen of an elite prospect. When he finally hit the proving grounds of the NCAA, he disappointed severely.
Even if we assume the injury and roster hindered him, I challenge anyone to come up with a favorable comp. He is really old for a one and done and his archetype just hasn't been successful in the NBA. He might carve out enough of a role in the NBA with a high enough usage to score a bunch of points, but it's going to be difficult for him to ever positively impact an NBA team. What is the upside? Ben Gordon? Can he even be that good? Gordon was a much better shooter.
Just that bold part.
He shot 36% FG, 34% for 3 and had more turnovers than assists
before he had minor surgery and got hurt. He actually, stats wise- played better after injury.
First game at college he started guns blazing. 12-24 FG.
What he did in second? Well also took 24 shots, but this time around missed 17 shots.
Later , before injury, when level of competition improved, against Ohio State and Virginia, he combined for 8-30 FG on 4 assists, 9 turnovers and 3-16 for 3.
I pretty much agree with everything else said. It's hard to find player that is his type, that actually sticks in nba for long with meaningful career.
Also guy has been on scouting radars since he was 13 years old. There is nothing unknown about his game. He was one of most hyped prospects comming into 2020. And guy just kept falling through lottery to the point where he ended up being non- lottery pick.
Last guys who's stock went in total free fall after one year are Quentin Grimes and Nassi Little. And both of them were not really THAT hyped like Cole was prior to entering college.
Porter Jr has been mentioned here, but it's different story. Some people thought Porter won't be able to play basketball again. ACL tears run in his family, i heard somwhere that even people in his family who never played any sports- had knee surgeries
I really,really,really hope i'm wrong, that his college team was that bad, that he just thought he has no other option but to hoist terrible jumpers. But his "mentality and effort" is also playing part of his hoisting and chucking. That mentality of dog can easly go from being great motivator do biggest issue ( difference between one Tucker and one Steph Marbury ) .
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