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I realize its early in the season, but from what I'm seeing, scoring seems to happen when Markelle gets the ball, especially on a fast break.

He is generous with distributing the ball, and his mindset seems to be to get the ball to the open player. If the open player is covered, he is good at taking it to the rim himself.

Does anyone feel the same way I am feeling...that is, he can become a star?

Thanks for the feedback. Can you just say YES or NO, and not be elaborate too much on your response.

orthoman wrote:I realize its early in the season, but from what I'm seeing, scoring seems to happen when Markelle gets the ball, especially on a fast break.

He is generous with distributing the ball, and his mindset seems to be to get the ball to the open player. If the open player is covered, he is good at taking it to the rim himself.

Does anyone feel the same way I am feeling...that is, he can become a star?

Thanks for the feedback. Can you just say YES or NO, and not be elaborate too much on your response.

If he can dramatically improve his willingness to take and ability to make 3PT shots, particularly off the dribble, YES.

If he cannot, hard NO.

Yes and No.

He needs to learn to be a playmaker more and attack like he did every time on fast breaks. That is his biggest strength.

He has the mid ranges and the form is very good. If he does handle the ball, I hope he can be a playmaker like last night passing.

Plus, he needs a 3 pt shot

Let's become an All Star first

Unless he gets a shot like Cole most likely not. he can be an all star but as much as hes improved he is not a 3pt threat.

To me this depends on the kind of leash and offense Clifford lends...

The last few games Fultz has looked great, but not “Superstar” territory. In order to do this he has to be able to hit a 3 more reliably and rack up more assists. This is only possible in a faster paced offense putting up big numbers. There still isn’t one thing Fultz does at an “elite” level.

I also don’t know how possible it will be if Cole is playing well as a backup with a considerable amount of minutes at pg. For example, Lillard, Westbrook, and Curry play 35-38 mpg regardless. Fultz has only this season averaged 30mpg - higher in these first 4 games than his highest average last season 26mpg. That’s kind of a big difference compared to the “superstars”, all things considering.

IF he keeps this up but with more playing time then YES even with his existing 3pt shot

Othwrwise NO

Super Star? Let’s define that. For me, “Super Star” is a higher form than just making a few all-star games. I would say you have Lebron, Steph, Giannis, Durant, Harden, Kawhi ... ?? Luka will “arrive” this season.

So by that definition ...

No. 100% absolutely not this is not in the cards for Fultz.

I see his ceiling as a multi All-Star appearance kinda guy if he improves his 3-pt shot — on par with the Kyle Lowry / Kemba Walkers of the world.

If he can’t improve his 3-pt shot he is a solid starter and nothing more.

Allstar maybe... superstar probably not.

orthoman wrote:I realize its early in the season, but from what I'm seeing, scoring seems to happen when Markelle gets the ball, especially on a fast break.

He is generous with distributing the ball, and his mindset seems to be to get the ball to the open player. If the open player is covered, he is good at taking it to the rim himself.

Does anyone feel the same way I am feeling...that is, he can become a star?

Thanks for the feedback. Can you just say YES or NO, and not be elaborate too much on your response.

With his ability to create for himself and others, yes, he can.

MagicFan101 wrote:Super Star? Let’s define that. For me, “Super Star” is a higher form than just making a few all-star games. I would say you have Lebron, Steph, Giannis, Durant, Harden, Kawhi ... ?? Luka will “arrive” this season.

So by that definition ...

No. 100% absolutely not this is not in the cards for Fultz.

I see his ceiling as a multi All-Star appearance kinda guy if he improves his 3-pt shot — on par with the Kyle Lowry / Kemba Walkers of the world.

If he can’t improve his 3-pt shot he is a solid starter and nothing more.

This is a good point. I may have been thinking too liberally with my "superstar" categorization. I think I was mainly thinking all-star level. I don't think he'll ever be in the Lebron, Steph, Giannis, Durant, Harden, Kawhi category.

College Fultz put up 23 ppg, 6 apg with 41% from 3 on 5 attempts a game.

for comparison, Ja Morant was 24 ppg 10 apg, 36% from 3. Better vision, but Fultz has size (6'5, 6'10 wingspan vs 6'3 6'7 wingspan)

Superstar? no. All-star, if he continues his play and growth absolutely.

I’m going to agree that the term superstar is used a bit liberally these days. I think of LBJ,KD,Steph, Kawhi, AD, and Zion as superstars or megastars that carry the leagues success with every move they make. There’s not too many of those, less than 10-12 guys. I don’t think Markelle is going to be one of those. That’s not a shot at him or lack of belief, it’s just those guys are exceptional in their Impact.

I think Markelle can be a star level guard, a guy who’s the motor for the Magic. He looks the part early this season. Let’s hope he improves his 3 point shot, which will take him a lot further. I can see Markelle being a lot like Chauncey Billups in terms of impact.

Yes. He can be one of the best players the world has ever seen based on what he's shown but obviously needs to continue to Improve. His ceiling stops when he stops taking lightyear leaps in his game as frequently as he is currently doing. The sky is the limit.

Max Power wrote:I’m going to agree that the term superstar is used a bit liberally these days. I think of LBJ,KD,Steph, Kawhi, AD, and Zion as superstars or megastars that carry the leagues success with every move they make. There’s not too many of those, less than 10-12 guys. I don’t think Markelle is going to be one of those. That’s not a shot at him or lack of belief, it’s just those guys are exceptional in their Impact.

I think Markelle can be a star level guard, a guy who’s the motor for the Magic. He looks the part early this season. Let’s hope he improves his 3 point shot, which will take him a lot further. I can see Markelle being a lot like Chauncey Billups in terms of impact.

Zion? It s far too early to call him that. Freak of nature, yes. Superstar not yet

Even if you ride 4 games sample, and you flat out should not.
He is 18 ppg scorer who takes over 16 shots a game to get on 51% TS.

If you think he is prolific scorer, think about this: in order to get to 18,3 points he took 22 shots more than Evan, who averages 17,8 points. In same time , he took 9 shots more than Ross, but Ross scored 9 points more.


Since poster who opened thread pointed that "scoring happends when he gets a ball" it's important to understand context.
Fultz, today, standing in 18,3 ppg, does not even crack top 50 scorers in nba.
League changed, he has as much as "superstar " potential as Dejuonte Murray, Dillion Brooks, Fox, Garland...All of them are about same age not very experienced, all guards, but just because you are young and can score 16-20 a night , it doesn't mean you will ever be there in category with Lebron,Durant, Kawhi, Giannis, Jokic, Curry, Harden, Davis....

There are plent of allstars who are allstars for years but not really all that amazing ,as their stats are more reflection of usage than them being actually superstars. Lillard and Westbrook, to name a few. Lillard passed from second round once, got swept, but for vast majority of his career, and he is already 30 now, he is first round exit "star".

Problem that fans have nowdays is figure out that everybody puts up stats, and counting numbers from players are not the same. Westbrook for years has better counting numbers than Lebron, Davis ,Kawhi and Durant. Yet he is nowhere near their impact and talent.

Since we riding 4 games sample size, Colin Sexston is one of most prolific scorers in nba now. So is Jeremy Grant.
Jeremy Grant was 9 points a game guy on team that was contending. Puts up nice contrast how much usage and expetations change with every team you are part of.

the jumper will dictate that honestly however.....When i think of what kind of star he can be without a great 3pt shot i think Heatles Dwayne Wade....i think around that time he shot around 30% from the 3 but was still very much a star in the game

Max Power wrote:I’m going to agree that the term superstar is used a bit liberally these days. I think of LBJ,KD,Steph, Kawhi, AD, and Zion as superstars or megastars that carry the leagues success with every move they make. There’s not too many of those, less than 10-12 guys. I don’t think Markelle is going to be one of those. That’s not a shot at him or lack of belief, it’s just those guys are exceptional in their Impact.

I think Markelle can be a star level guard, a guy who’s the motor for the Magic. He looks the part early this season. Let’s hope he improves his 3 point shot, which will take him a lot further. I can see Markelle being a lot like Chauncey Billups in terms of impact.

Zion isn't superstar.
Every time i watch him i just can't shake up " If Griffin never developed anything / fat but athletic Kemp / fat Kenyon Martin" vibe.
People talked about his jumpshot- there is nothing to talk about, he is even terrible FT shooter.
About his floor vision- there is nothing to talk about. His TO- to assist numbers are among worst in whole league ( last and this year).
About his ability to attack off dribble- he is just bouncy and fat and it's regular season so guys just move away.
He is glorified garbage man that plays on uber-fast paced team so it gives him enough garbage shots to score 20. There is nothing you can run for him in modern offense. And God forbid watching half court set with him, he can't even set proper screen.

My bold prediction about 2019 draft was that Ja Morant be more impactful player. Just year later things are very, very obvious.
This doesn't even take in account that Jackson Jr. almost never plays, that Pelicans roster on paper has s*** loud of talent more, yet Morant equals wins and competitive basketball so far... Ingram,Zion and Lonzo equal... college basketball team that got lost in bus so now they are asked to play against pros

They lost 2 games against Heat ( no Butler ) and Suns ( game over by halftime) in such an spectacular fashion, and in two wins, they beat winless Raptors ( story for another day, team without offense) , and Spurs, but in Spurs game Williamson was terrible ( 7-22 ). His plus minus over 4 games is -37.

Not even taking in account he is one tweeked knee away from being 350 pounds.

Imo, Darius Garland, after everything is set and done, will come off as second best player in 2019 draft. Guy simply has elite fundamentals. His floor vision is top tear, he can shoot, he understands angles and he is so good at keeping dribble alive against pressure.

Take current-Fultz and add a 40% three-ball at 5-attempts per game, he is a max-level player.

drsd wrote:Take current-Fultz and add a 40% three-ball at 5-attempts per game, he is a max-level player.

Easy peasy.

I’d like to see him really become a situational lockdown guy too...like Kobe, Jordan and Pippen were. Not constant pressure but ability on-demand to just demoralize an opposing ball handler for a few possessions. He has the physical tools for this and I think I’m seeing that competitive fire this year that is the biggest ingredient to stardom...you cant ask your lead guard to play 2-ways 100% but the greats have the ability to apply it at defining moments.