2020-2021 Regular Season Game 29: New York Knicks (14-15) at Orlando Magic (10-18)

MaKiaVeLi7 · Post #81 » by **MaKiaVeLi7** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:25 am

Fournier and especially Terrence Ross went full superhero HULK on our precious tank tonight.

If this FO is even considering staying in the race for a good top 6 draft pick, which I'm not sure of.... IF they're considering it, they absolutely need to try to get rid of at least one between Ross or Evan before the trade deadline.

Otherwise... well, we all know what happens - we get a mid 1st and WeHam try to outsmart the league and in the end they manage to outsmart themselves by picking an injured role player at best. :oops:

MagicMatic · Post #82 » by **MagicMatic** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:26 am

Ross/Fournier/Vuc :

Good enough to not be a top lottery team.
Bad enough to never win anything.

Husky1 · Post #83 » by **Husky1** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:30 am

thelead wrote:
thelead wrote:Is this anything (they would never ask this one)?
In the 8 games that Cliff has been forced to play Bamba:

Vucevic -155
Bamba +31

Tonight:
Vuc -11
Mo +12

To update the stat over the last 9 games (which I used to do for Fultz vs DJ for a while):

Vuc -153
Mo +47

Please take this down before anyone from the Celtics sees it. Shhhhh haha

basketballRob · Post #84 » by **basketballRob** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:33 am

Bamba needs to sit out more games. The defense looks way too good when he's in the game.

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Post #85 » by **Knightro** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:34 am

The case could be made that was the best Ross has ever played in a Magic uniform.

MagicStarwipe · Post #86 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:42 am

thelead · Post #87 » by **thelead** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:45 am

Cliff with lowkey shots fired at fans and reporters... talking up Vuc's 'communication' skills on defense while saying 'there are guys that block a lot of shots but are terrible defenders'....

-_-

Go away boomer

thelead · Post #88 » by **thelead** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:49 am

my god... they are really taking shots at fans for not understanding basketball...

Brian Hill now taking shots

MagicMatic · Post #89 » by **MagicMatic** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:55 am

thelead wrote:my god... they are really taking shots at fans for not understanding basketball...

Brian Hill now taking shots

Yeah, Steve Clifford and Brian Hill. The epitome of nba basketball success.

richi_v25 · Post #90 » by **richi_v25** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:04 am

What coach said was Mo is trash for putting up a non scoring wall and Vuc is All NBA team for his communication skills... can't make this ish up :crazy:

Blue_and_Whte · Post #91 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:05 am

thelead wrote:Cliff with lowkey shots fired at fans and reporters... talking up Vuc's 'communication' skills on defense while saying 'there are guys that block a lot of shots but are terrible defenders'....

-_-

Go away boomer

Well he's not wrong. There are guys that block shots who play terrible defense. Like I said a little bit ago, you can count on Mo to play hard when a fire has been lit or when he's playing the Knicks. Its good to see but it shouldnt be trusted. Its funny how excited people get though. :lol:

thelead · Post #92 » by **thelead** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:07 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
thelead wrote:Cliff with lowkey shots fired at fans and reporters... talking up Vuc's 'communication' skills on defense while saying 'there are guys that block a lot of shots but are terrible defenders'....

-_-

Go away boomer

Well he's not wrong. THere are guys that block shots who play terrible defense.

Absolutely... but there was a smugness about his answer. Like 'I'm tired of being asked about Mo!'. I dunno... it just came off as a bit petty IMO.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #93 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:10 am

thelead wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
thelead wrote:Cliff with lowkey shots fired at fans and reporters... talking up Vuc's 'communication' skills on defense while saying 'there are guys that block a lot of shots but are terrible defenders'....

-_-

Go away boomer

Well he's not wrong. THere are guys that block shots who play terrible defense.

Absolutely... but there was a smugness about his answer. Like 'I'm tired of being asked about Mo!'. I dunno... it just came off as a bit petty IMO.

Its really good to see Mo doing something but we all need to see it consistently. Im just happy Cliff is playing him.

MagicFan101 · Post #94 » by **MagicFan101** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:40 am

HORRIBLE NIGHT!!!

We now have the same number of wins as the #8 team in the tankathon. Only our loss count keeps us at #5.

Xatticus · Post #95 » by **Xatticus** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:31 am

thelead wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
thelead wrote:Cliff with lowkey shots fired at fans and reporters... talking up Vuc's 'communication' skills on defense while saying 'there are guys that block a lot of shots but are terrible defenders'....

-_-

Go away boomer

Well he's not wrong. THere are guys that block shots who play terrible defense.

Absolutely... but there was a smugness about his answer. Like 'I'm tired of being asked about Mo!'. I dunno... it just came off as a bit petty IMO.

The problem is that he thinks people are talking about blocks when they label Vucevic a lousy defender. It’s fairly obvious that our stats people don’t have a voice in the room.

pepe1991 · Post #96 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:03 am

Husky1 wrote:
thelead wrote:
thelead wrote:Is this anything (they would never ask this one)?
In the 8 games that Cliff has been forced to play Bamba:

Vucevic -155
Bamba +31

Tonight:
Vuc -11
Mo +12

To update the stat over the last 9 games (which I used to do for Fultz vs DJ for a while):

Vuc -153
Mo +47

Please take this down before anyone from the Celtics sees it. Shhhhh haha

please take this down, embarrassing yourself isn't nice.

Do you know that Draymoond Green has highest plus minus in nba history for one season? But it's not just that, he is ranked 3 times in top 10, making him the actual greatest of all time, according to your logic.

How missleading raw plus minus is? Remember Rose and 2011 MVP win? Do you know who lead Bulls in plus minus?

Spoiler:

This guy.

Same year, same flawed logic, same stupidity. NIck Collis was better player than Lebron.

What is really means? it measures how a player's backup, with other backups, plays against the opposing backups. In other words, it actually doesn't tell you what it's trying to.

Teams that are bad more often than not have terrible plus minus by starters, because in close games their players will have semi-equal plus minus and in blowouts , during "rebound" garbage time they are on bench.

Skin · Post #97 » by **Skin** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:22 am

Just wait until we start racking up more meaningless wins at the end of the season. Magic are a painful team to pledge allegiance to.

pepe1991 · Post #98 » by **pepe1991** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:40 am

Skin wrote:Just wait until we start racking up more meaningless wins at the end of the season. Magic are a painful team to pledge allegiance to.

wanna hear something crazy?
2,5 games behind 8th seed
2,5 games behind worst record

East is complete disaster, right now only 4 of 15 teams have positive record. Celtics at 14-14 ( .500) record are 5th :banghead:

drsd · Post #99 » by **drsd** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:45 am

Knightro wrote:The case could be made that was the best Ross has ever played in a Magic uniform.

30/4/6 is a robust and complete box-score. His +22 is amazing. His efficiency against the Knicks bench is clearly the reason Orlando won this game.

Skybox · Post #100 » by **Skybox** » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:54 am

Cmon guys, cheer up...we may not have the worst team, but we definitely appear to have the worst fans