Knightro wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Playing tankball and failing at it is execlly how last rebuild played out.
Orlando did tanking rout just 5 years ago. Matter of fact Magic were terrible team that was low -key tanking no longer than 3 years ago.
Magic drafted two lottery picks with 6th pick in 2017 and 2018. 4 years later, they are again in position where 6th pick is most objective outcom.
So what a f** is now different other than fact you try to talk yourself into "new era" because 3 players from also self proclaimed" old era" aren't there?
Was 2016 "new era" compared to 2014 because Oladipo and Harris were no longer there ? Because , since Dwight asked for trade, decade ago, to me it's still same era. Irrelevant semi tanking with no superstar in sight.
Let's not even talk about fact that allegedly future" core" is made of Isaac, Fultz, Wendell Carter and Okeke, who only share 2 things in common:
1) not amazing talents
2) zero ability to stay healthy for long period of time
The fact that you're suggesting Isaac, Fultz, Carter and Okeke is the core is where you lose me.
6 weeks ago was the very first step in what is almost assuredly going to be an extremely long rebuilding process in an effort to find all-star caliber talent. You can only overhaul so many spots at one trade deadline.
I would say it's more likely that every single player on the roster right now is gone in the next three years than is a certain part of the core.
6 weeks ago we were on pace to finish with 7th worst record. After trading everybody with any talent, we are 6th worst.
Due our own incompetence, we will, for 6th time in 9 years finish with 5th or 6th or worst record but again, despite being in top 5- we will still not sniff near top 3 worst , witch still gives best chances for us to draft franchise altering star.
Next year, with return of Fultz & Isaac and SOME additions from free agency, it's highly unlikely they will be THIS bad. So again, we will be on treadmill between playin tournament and tanking.
This was year to suck it up and roll over, like Oklahoma did, regardless of trades ( notice how they kept Horford and SGA, but kept them away from court ) and retool roster with some talent next year. Instad, we opted to gut out roster for bodies, but in mean time we collected so much desparate bums that in fight for their own nba careers pushed us away from our orginal plan- tanking.
OKC has lost 18 of last 19 games. Why didn't we held onto Bone , Mane or Hall? They were terrible. That was execlly their purpose. To suck it up for us. Nooo,we had to go out of our way to sign f*** Mo Wagner who is worthless enough to not be worth anything for Celtics, but still is good enough to be heads and shoulder above G league guys and win us one game basically on his own.
Why, against Bulls, Carter Wiliams ( 28), Ross ( 30) Harris (28) and Ennis (31) are logging 30 min each?
We do this basically every year. ONly time we sucked enough to be terrible was that one year we finished with THE worst record in 2013. And ofc ,we got 2# pick. Oladipo. In all other years it's half a***ing with " culture building wins" at end of a season that have no meaning other than ruining tank.
I'm as anti tanker as it gets, just week ago i posted that i don't see much difference between drafting 2# or 4th. But here we are , dancing with 6th worst record. This is far away from comfort zone of me "not caring". We went from having 52,1% chance for top 4 pick to 39,6%. That -12,5% doesn't sound a lot, but that's literally chance for OKC to draft 1# 2# 3# or 4# ( individually).
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon