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2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16)

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Re: 2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16) 

Post#521 » by pepe1991 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:04 am

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I'm pro tank but i enjoy the games so far. If we miss out on a top 4, its on WeHam to keep all those vets. If you like it or not but we have positive character vets here, who care & not the tanking vets we had before, like Ben Gordon & Jeff Green.
Well I'm anti tank and I'm enjoying the games so far. :)
I just believe if you cheat the game, the game will cheat you.. if we try to lose games to get a high draft pick... it ain't gon happen

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Worked for the 76ers
Worked out real well for the mavs a few years ago while we played hard and won meaningless games at the end..... The got 5th pick, we got 6th.... They got luka we got no bamba


It's not Dallas who f*** us , it's Kings who jumped over, we had 5th worst record and because Kings jumped to 2#, we slotted down to 6.

Fans made so much crying about Dallas pick, failing to see that if Magic actually WON 4 more games, they would have had 2# pick.

Literally same scenario happend year before, Kings ( 32 wins) jumped over us ( 25) wins and drafted 5th - Deaaron Fox.

But if people start being realistic about inability to predict outcome of lottery, and figure your team's "strategy" for sucess is literally gambling on ping pong balls, than fans would lost their favorite thing to do- complain and cry after every win ( or loss) about something.
Prediction day after Vuc, Gordon, Evan departure - most fans who are celebrating birth of new rebuild will be crying how rebuild is painful before 2022-23 season ends.
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Re: 2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16) 

Post#522 » by KillMonger » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:15 am

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rusoopE wrote:Are the wolves even a playoffs Team? Can giannis bring a chip to the bucks? Look what Toronto did. They were good enough without any top draft pick and still won cause they were good already and just needed a superstar.to atleast being a real contender. I was always a.tank pro cause i saw no hope for what we were building believe me. Now im eager to try to win and make these young core competitive as much as they can..i totally get you and i understand cause ive been thwre literally for.9 years. Salute you bud!

Toronto isn't the best example....they drafted well and they were able to attract a BIG TIME free agent...two things we haven't shown any ability to do in the past decade or so

Lowry? Bit time free agent? They did great at draft ofcourse have they got a high pick? No they didnt. They build up their young core and stuck with it. Is Miami a good example? They reached the finals, no high picks, just adding butler cause he liked heats culture. Im not saying this core is going to be great and contender level. But winning games will increase their and the teams value, and i have high hopes for the next season

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Re: 2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16) 

Post#523 » by Dub_Sax » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:16 am

The Effect wrote:
Dub_Sax wrote:
GelbeWand09 wrote:
I'm pro tank but i enjoy the games so far. If we miss out on a top 4, its on WeHam to keep all those vets. If you like it or not but we have positive character vets here, who care & not the tanking vets we had before, like Ben Gordon & Jeff Green.
Well I'm anti tank and I'm enjoying the games so far. :)
I just believe if you cheat the game, the game will cheat you.. if we try to lose games to get a high draft pick... it ain't gon happen

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Worked for the 76ers
Worked out real well for the mavs a few years ago while we played hard and won meaningless games at the end..... The got 5th pick, we got 6th.... They got luka we got no bamba
Oh aight. We gon tank so we can get that 5th pick.. cuz if we tank we can pick which pick we want to have, right?...fkoutta here..

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Post#524 » by OrlandO » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:30 am

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The Effect wrote:I know right, why let the young guy get crucial minutes in a close game, craziness!
WAY better for the development of this team to let him rot on the bench and watch MCW........


You're talking out of both sides here.

On one hand you are upset they won a game you thought they shouldn't have for tanking purposes.

But on the other hand you're upset that a guy who was 1-8 from the floor in the first 46 minutes of the game and also missed a pair of free throws that almost cost them the game beyond just generally being a disaster all night offensively in MCW was the guy who was out there?

If Hampton was out there and did *better* than MCW, the Magic may have won even easier and you'd still be upset.

So really it seems your argument is that Hampton should have been out there to ensure the loss because he would have done worse than MCW did. But ultimately that seems counterproductive to your other argument that Hampton needed to be out there because it would have been good for his positive development.

See how this goes around and around.

MCW had 9 assist, no turnovers, 7 rebounds, 3 steals and 2 blocks... he was a team high +15. Rookie Hampton going to play harder and control the team better than MCW did? Doubt.
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Post#525 » by pepe1991 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:38 am

Read on Twitter
Prediction day after Vuc, Gordon, Evan departure - most fans who are celebrating birth of new rebuild will be crying how rebuild is painful before 2022-23 season ends.
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Post#526 » by MagicStarwipe » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:21 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Stupid tweet by Robbins. The only reason they are in the game in the first place playing the roles that they are is because we are "tanking".
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Post#527 » by KillMonger » Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:16 am

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Re: 2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16) 

Post#528 » by Message Boar » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:34 am

Wait what, we actually won?
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Post#529 » by JBSouthpaw » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:39 am

KillMonger wrote:
rusoopE wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Toronto isn't the best example....they drafted well and they were able to attract a BIG TIME free agent...two things we haven't shown any ability to do in the past decade or so

Lowry? Bit time free agent? They did great at draft ofcourse have they got a high pick? No they didnt. They build up their young core and stuck with it. Is Miami a good example? They reached the finals, no high picks, just adding butler cause he liked heats culture. Im not saying this core is going to be great and contender level. But winning games will increase their and the teams value, and i have high hopes for the next season

k. Leonard...they don't win without him


Leonard was traded to the Raptors, not a FA signing.
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Post#530 » by Skybox » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:46 am

I blame Martins for this win. Clifford should go Tonya Harding on each player before he subs them in. This is really pathetic fandom...they are going to win sometimes. They dumped all of the good players who aren't injured. Now this lineup of Ross, Birch, and OPJ is too "stacked" to be playing? Just stop watching. :nonono:
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Post#531 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:54 am

Wow what a late comeback, we were down 9 with under 4 mins left. Okeke continues to impress.

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Post#532 » by tiderulz » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:12 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Read on Twitter

no Josh, it isnt. Let them play and gain experience and confidence in their play. but the team needs to lose for a better chance at a top pick
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Re: 2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16) 

Post#533 » by Knightro » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:21 pm

The Phoenix win was egregiously worse than this one given the circumstances.
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Post#534 » by billy5783 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:34 pm

I am definitely not mad about the way we won this game. Young guys coming up big and growing fast. Wasn't another Dwayne Bacon special. This definitely doesn't feel the same as the prior rebuilds.

I can understand worry from fans because while people can say "stop complaining. it didn't change our spot in the lotto odds" it definitely showed me that we are going to win more games than I initially expected/hoped after the trade deadline. I am actually trying to get myself out of expecting a top 5 pick at this point because this team is probably not gonna lose to the teams below it and will beat a few better teams.

It is what it is at this point. Really gonna try to enjoy Chuma the rest of the way!
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Re: 2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16) 

Post#535 » by ChosenSavior » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:37 pm

Knightro wrote:The Phoenix win was egregiously worse than this one given the circumstances.


Add the Brooklyn game to that as well.
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Post#536 » by nymets1 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:45 pm

We played 11 guys last night, that's too much. It has to be a 9 man rotation. Randle and Ennis or MCW has to come out. Okeke, Bacon, Hampton, Porter, Wendell, Bamba must be part of the 9 man rotation.
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Post#537 » by basketballRob » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:47 pm

We held the Lakers to 41.5% and Clippers to 41.6%. If we keep that up we'll win a bunch of games.

We're up to 17th in defense, not sure where we were before the trade. Obviously the defense looks like it could be top 10 now.

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Post#538 » by basketballRob » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:48 pm

nymets1 wrote:We played 11 guys last night, that's too much. It has to be a 9 man rotation. Randle and Ennis or MCW has to come out. Okeke, Bacon, Hampton, Porter, Wendell, Bamba must be part of the 9 man rotation.
We're trying to lose tho.

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Post#539 » by jayrehme » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:51 pm

One may argue that trading away our perennial losers for hard working defenders made us a better team. Quit obsessing over having a slightly better chance at a single "prospect". Enjoy when your young team wins and let the chips fall where they may. Okeke's been looking like a stud lately, and I'll enjoy watching WCJ and Bamba hopefully grow as our center tandem this year. Next year throw in Harris, Fultz, and Isaac and this is looking like a fun team.
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Re: 2020-2021 Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (15-31) at Los Angeles Clippers (32-16) 

Post#540 » by swarlesbarkley » Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:52 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
The Effect wrote:
Dub_Sax wrote:Well I'm anti tank and I'm enjoying the games so far. :)
I just believe if you cheat the game, the game will cheat you.. if we try to lose games to get a high draft pick... it ain't gon happen

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Worked for the 76ers
Worked out real well for the mavs a few years ago while we played hard and won meaningless games at the end..... The got 5th pick, we got 6th.... They got luka we got no bamba


It's not Dallas who f*** us , it's Kings who jumped over, we had 5th worst record and because Kings jumped to 2#, we slotted down to 6.

Fans made so much crying about Dallas pick, failing to see that if Magic actually WON 4 more games, they would have had 2# pick.

Literally same scenario happend year before, Kings ( 32 wins) jumped over us ( 25) wins and drafted 5th - Deaaron Fox.

But if people start being realistic about inability to predict outcome of lottery, and figure your team's "strategy" for sucess is literally gambling on ping pong balls, than fans would lost their favorite thing to do- complain and cry after every win ( or loss) about something.


Sure, if history repeats itself. Over here in the real world the best percentage to get a top pick means losing more. No team should be saying "let's try to get the 7th worst record this year because I feel the lotto balls are going to hit for the 7th worst record this year". Replay that lotto 100 times and the Dallas spot will be higher than the Sac spot an overwhelming majority of the time.

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