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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#581 » by zaymon » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:08 pm

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Knightro wrote:It's a solid night for the tank no matter what with Cleveland beating Chicago.

Now hopefully Detroit can put the cherry on top in Dallas.

Are you comfortable with Chicago getting better odds to leapfrog into the top 4? with every loss their odds get better, i'd rather them win some games to be honest....when is it too close for comfort?

In the end everybody has different tolerance for risk. For me 7-9 (Bulls are 8 th worst right now) is a worthy risk.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#582 » by drsd » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:13 pm

KillMonger wrote:Are you comfortable with Chicago getting better odds to leapfrog into the top 4? with every loss their odds get better, i'd rather them win some games to be honest....when is it too close for comfort?


Chicago looks most likely to slot as 7th worst. There the cumulative odds to go top-4 is about 1-in-3. If the Bulls slide back to a play-in competition, it is an about 10% chance to go top-4 (assuming the team fails to make the playoffs - and then slots 15).

So, you are asking if we fans want to take the chance at a 66.6% get of the 7 vs. a 90% chance to get the 10. Personally I will not fret about something outside of Magic control. The Magic will get the pick or not, and it will slot from 7-to-15 if is conveys.

Another question is, would you rather the Magic get the Bulls pick this year or hit a year? If the Bulls go top-4, then the team might be more likely to lose games next year than they would have otherwise. In other words, Chicago is unlikely to make next years playoffs, unless there is a play-in again. There Orlando might end up with two picks in the 7-12 range (its own included).

I am ok with Orlando drafting 7-10 next year over 7-10 this year. The team will be more developed and more capable of absorbing two rookies. But given the deep draft, I am ok with the Magic getting the Bulls pick this year as well, if either Moody or Kispert is the outcome.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#583 » by drsd » Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:17 pm

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Knightro wrote:SIX in a row for the Washington Wizards.

Between them and Toronto, it's safe to say we're going to get a good lotto pick from the Bulls this summer if they don't get a top 4 pick


Plus the Bulls has the 5th hardest schedule to close out the season; Washington is 24th.

One must really like the Wizards to slot as the 10-seed at this point.


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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#584 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:07 pm

We only have 2 more games that are relevant to the Bulls. One the game with the Pacers Sunday, so they can maintain a lead on the Bulls and two the game with the Cavs, who are trying to catch the Bulls.

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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#585 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:58 pm

I'd take these odds. The Bulls are in 8th and likely end up 9th pick. Roughly a 1 in 4 chance to move into the top 4.

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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#586 » by RookieStar » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:05 pm

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Knightro wrote:It's a solid night for the tank no matter what with Cleveland beating Chicago.

Now hopefully Detroit can put the cherry on top in Dallas.

Are you comfortable with Chicago getting better odds to leapfrog into the top 4? with every loss their odds get better, i'd rather them win some games to be honest....when is it too close for comfort?


Im with you. I haven't really changed my stance in that im with the group that wants them in the play-in spot so our pick from them would be anywhere near the 15(???) pick. I want the pick this year not next year.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#587 » by fendilim » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:09 pm

So is it confirmed the protected picks from bulls become 2nd rounder if top 4?
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#588 » by SOUL » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:13 pm

fendilim wrote:So is it confirmed the protected picks from bulls become 2nd rounder if top 4?


No, it becomes top 3 protected next year and then it would be 2nd rounders. So they'd have to get consecutive picks in the top 4 and 3 before that.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#589 » by Knightro » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:14 pm

fendilim wrote:So is it confirmed the protected picks from bulls become 2nd rounder if top 4?


No.

The 2021 Bulls pick is top 4 protected.

If the Bulls hit the lottery in 2021, then the pick would turn into a 2022 1st top 3 protected.

If the Bulls hit the lottery AGAIN in 2022, then it would become two second rounders.

Same thing for the 2023 1st. If it doesn't convert in 2023, it becomes a 2024 1st top 3 protected and if it doesn't convert in 2024 it becomes two seconds.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#590 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:15 pm

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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#591 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:16 pm

Bamba going to put up 20 and 15 tonight.

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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#592 » by fendilim » Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:51 pm

basketballRob wrote:Bamba going to put up 20 and 15 tonight.

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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#593 » by Viper1500 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:27 am

We truly need to lose out.. I want to be bottom 3. This could make me feel confident on a top 4 pick, which seems to be the cut off line in terms of sure talent.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#594 » by Bensational » Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:51 am

Wow, how’d we manage to tie for 3rd last? I didn’t think we’d catch Detroit. If we can hold here that’s about as good as we can ask other than Minny winning some pointless games.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#595 » by Knightro » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:01 am

Bensational wrote:Wow, how’d we manage to tie for 3rd last? I didn’t think we’d catch Detroit. If we can hold here that’s about as good as we can ask other than Minny winning some pointless games.


Monday, May 3 @ Detroit is looming large.
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#596 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:05 am

Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:Wow, how’d we manage to tie for 3rd last? I didn’t think we’d catch Detroit. If we can hold here that’s about as good as we can ask other than Minny winning some pointless games.


Monday, May 3 @ Detroit is looming large.


Exactly.. we need to solidify 3rd. have DET worry about OKC in their backs. Once we have 3rd lock up only then do we look for MIN and start licking our chops
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#597 » by KillMonger » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:08 am

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Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:Wow, how’d we manage to tie for 3rd last? I didn’t think we’d catch Detroit. If we can hold here that’s about as good as we can ask other than Minny winning some pointless games.


Monday, May 3 @ Detroit is looming large.


Exactly.. we need to solidify 3rd. have DET worry about OKC in their backs. Once we have 3rd lock up only then do we look for MIN and start licking our chops

Yeah OKC is doing the most...and i wouldn't be surprised if Shai gets shut down for the rest of the season even thought that might suck for him....for example reaching certain milestones may have contractual incentives like getting more money for making All-Nba teams and things like that i'm sure has a games played requirement.

If it was up to me, i'm shutting Ross down for the rest of the season due to a backiotomy and WCJ sidelined with that ankle....i guarantee we wouldn't win another game without those two
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#598 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:39 am

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RookieStar wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Monday, May 3 @ Detroit is looming large.


Exactly.. we need to solidify 3rd. have DET worry about OKC in their backs. Once we have 3rd lock up only then do we look for MIN and start licking our chops

Yeah OKC is doing the most...and i wouldn't be surprised if Shai gets shut down for the rest of the season even thought that might suck for him....for example reaching certain milestones may have contractual incentives like getting more money for making All-Nba teams and things like that i'm sure has a games played requirement.

If it was up to me, i'm shutting Ross down for the rest of the season due to a backiotomy and WCJ sidelined with that ankle....i guarantee we wouldn't win another game without those two


yeah... our suffering is almost over. less than 15 garbage games
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#599 » by drsd » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:27 pm

Minny and Houston no can no longer make the Western play-ins. Let their tanks begin!
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Re: Race for Ping Pong Balls 

Post#600 » by drsd » Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:35 pm

Orlando is back tto being two games worse than #5 OKC and is still 0.5 up on #3 Detroit.

With the Bulls win, Chicago is tied for the 8/9 with Toronto. Still outside the play-ins by being 0.5 back of Washington. All three are tied in the Ws column.

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