Xatticus wrote: pepe1991 wrote:
I mean... it's better? There is still a lot of dumb **** in there. We could start with your failure to normalize your stats. I don't know why you use per game numbers. I mean... I do. I don't know why you think it's valid though. Basically, everything you say would make a hell of a lot more sense if this was a fantasy basketball forum.
Normalazing stats ? You said he is 32% three point shooter to make it bit better than it is. He is career 31,5 who shot 31,5% for Europe level 3 witch is actually long 2 in nba. So from start it's pretty bad.
Than you refuse to acknowledge he can't make free throws at respectful clip that are more often than not serious indicator of invidiual ability to shoot.
Lastly, you ignore what other scouts wrote about him in past.
Mike Schmitz wrote about him during U16 Euro back in 2016
-More of a slightly undersized power forward at this stage. Although he's young, he's very developed for his age. How much more will he grow? -How is he going to score in the half court as the size, length, athleticism and level of play increase? -Really can't shoot at all at this stage. Stiff, funky mechanics with very little touch 8-for-23 from the free throw line and took only three jumpers all tournament. -Over 75% of his offense came from transition, offensive rebounds, and cuts. Not a guy who's going to go get you a bucket at the end of the clock. -Relies more on his tools around the rim. Can improve his touch versus length. -Ball skills are average in the half court. Limited to strictly straight line drives, although he shows some potential in transition. -Checks quite a few boxes but is missing some important ones (namely shooting). Projects more as a high level role player right now. Is his production mostly a product of his physical gifts and motor in comparison to where most 15-16-year-olds are physically? - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Usman-Garuba-96905/
In 2016 he was 6'7, so in 5 years he didn't grow. In terms of pure size, he is what he is and that's what he will be. There won't be Giannis level growth and he won't show up at your camp being 6'11.
You are drafting high energy, short center that has no business playing PF in modern basketball with very, very limited offensive game that showed basically no development in last 5 years.
In last 5 years he went from not shooting ball at all to shooting very poor percentages all over the board.
He is neither BPA nor he fits Orlando's need.
That's how we do math on planet earth. We round decimals.
Some people move goal posts. You frenetically start throwing up new goal posts everywhere. I never said he was a good shooter. I said it was stupid to use two guys that have attempted 38 combined total 3-point field goal attempts in 20 combined NBA seasons as comps for a guy that hit 35 3-point field goals this year alone.
Great job on pulling up a scouting report for him at age 14 to try to hammer home your point.
Actually factually false. Percentages are rounding on 2 decimales, in some cases to make it for average person easier , on 1. In both cases, nba in particular does NOT round percentages. Even official nba page has 1 decimale.
You did it in sad attemp to showcase him as "almost average" shooter. Where every person can look at his career 41/130 for 3 in 120 games ( 31,5%) and figure for itself we talk about poor shooter .
What goalposts I moved? I compared him to Biyombo & Tristan Thompson due similar size & lenght and you got but**hurt about it. Talking about moving goalposts, you even mentioned his skin collor
I said it was stupid to use two guys that have attempted 38 combined total 3-point field goal attempts in 20 combined NBA seasons as comps for a guy that hit 35 3-point field goals this year alone.
Fair, and it would make sesne if you are not the poster that kept crying how dumb Magic were for and i qoute "drafting Barcelona backup who never showed he is plus shooter" and now, 6 years later, you are trying to make a case for Real Mardid backup who shot 11/40 for 3 in Euroleague in addition of 62% FGs ?
Maybe skin color is to you very strong factor of evaluation since you got so but*hurt frist time i compared him to Biyombo?
As far as player comparisons go
ACB League stats, same age:
17 MPG, 6,4 PPG, 5,1 RPG, 2,3 BPG ---55% FG, 0% for 3 ( 0 -0 ) , 55 % FTs
18,7 MPG, 5,6 PPG, 5,3 RPG, 0,4 BPG---46% FG, 33,8% for 3 ( 24-71) , 67% FTs
23,7 MPG, 9,7 PPG, 5,7 RPG, 0,3 BPG---45% FG, 35,8% for 3 ( 34-95), 72% FTs)
And as far as my draftexpress from 2016 goes, he didn't improve any aspect of his game in 5 years. He is still rim running undersized center who at times plays PF because he is inferior to Trey Thompkins, that nba stud that lasted for 24 games in nba.
Prediction day after Vuc, Gordon, Evan departure - most fans who are celebrating birth of new rebuild will be crying how rebuild is painful before 2022-23 season ends.
Date of writeup: March 26th, 2021.