MagicMatic wrote: The Effect wrote:
This league is run by playmakers. Get a playmaker with a top 5 pick.
WHile true, its not that simple
Lets say that you have a time machine and go forward and see that these guys reach their top potential and they end up mimicking the 2012 Draft
Mobley = AD
Green = Beal
Suggs = Dame
Who do you take?
The cold blooded leader
The elite 3 level scorer
the best PF in the NBA
Considering AD couldn’t ever get far enough with a somewhat capable roster in New Orleans for being “the best PF in the nba”, I’m taking Dame (Suggs) and Beal (Green) hands down. Their rosters are garbage and still made it just as far if not consistently further than any of Davis’ teams before joining up with Lebron. If Denver or Philadelphia win the championship, I’ll eat ALL the crow. Pretty easy bet considering I’m fairly certain it won’t happen.
This is very flawed analogy.
Only one among 3 of them, won championship. It's Davis. And sure you can make a spin and pretend he wasn't as important as Lebron, but that will simply be false at this stage, especially knowing what happend to Lakers after he got hurt this year. Lost in first round, outscored by 50 points when Davis was out.
Beal, as best player, never went anywhere but in lottery or first round exit. On East. And as second best player, behind Wall, also got nowhere.
Lillard has been eliminated from playoffs in first rounds 4 times in last 5 years. Matter of fact, in 2018 Davis led Pelicans swept him in first round.
All things considered, Mobley has much,much more chance reaching Davis level than Suggs has reaching Dame's or Green reaching Beal's.
Where in theory i'm not crazy about idea of drafting PF/Cs in lottery, and i would probably take Green and Suggs over Mobley today, this does not mean that in nba, it's more likely that Mobley turns into most valuable player from this draft.
Lenghty, defensive, switchable, talented on offense players are simply valuable. Where you can find 10 great and additional 10 very good point guards and shooting guards. On other side of a spectrum, bigs who are two way stars are very,very rare.
If Denver or Philadelphia win the championship, I’ll eat ALL the crow. Pretty easy bet considering I’m fairly certain it won’t happen
They probably won't because in era of fabricated superteams among "buddy stars" they are yet to join forces with another megastar(s). That does not make them less valuable. If one Jokic, tomarrow goes to Clippers, they are instant favorite to win it all next 3 years. But he won't do it yet because he is not b*** like other stars todays are.
Prediction day after Vuc, Gordon, Evan departure - most fans who are celebrating birth of new rebuild will be crying how rebuild is painful before 2022-23 season ends.
Date of writeup: March 26th, 2021.