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Davion Mitchell anybody ? 

Post#1 » by three3d » Sun Jul 4, 2021 1:38 pm

What's the general thought on Davion Mitchell on this board ? His combine height came in at 6"0 not 6"2 like listed in college so he is on the shorter side for the NBA for sure. Watching the combine listing to people talk about him all I could think was this sounds exactly like the type of player the Magic would want to draft ( minus the tall part ) he just has what our front office seems to look for written all over him. When the draft happens later this month I believe Mitchell will be 23 and most likely one of the older Rookies in the draft. Our team is so loaded with youth a 23 year old rookie might just be able to step right in here and be a day one leader. I am interested in hearing scenarios or trades that would lead to us drafting Davion Mitchell and has anyone broke his game down in this forum ?
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Post#2 » by Magic Mops » Sun Jul 4, 2021 2:01 pm

6'4,25 Wingspan so it's ok.

Mitchell's greatest strength is far and away his tenacity on the defensive end and he has a case as the best perimeter defender in this draft class.

His in-your-face defence pairs well with his quickness and physicality to make life as difficult as possible for opposing ball-handlers.
He's pesky and gritty on that end of the floor, taking pride in shutting down his opponents with a willingness to pick up his assignment as far as 94-feet from the basket.

His lateral quickness and defensive instincts allow him to often beat opponents to their spot, drawing charges or swiping steals without fouling.

Offensively, Mitchell is shifty and explosive. He can play with or without the ball in his hands and is comfortable as a scorer from all three levels of the floor.
He has a lightning quick first step.

He uses his body and strength well to capitalize on his burst and speed to get downhill.
And he's more than capable of stopping on a dime and pulling up from midrange or beyond the arc.

He has a tight handle and solid court vision as a sound playmaker - a true combo guard at the next level.

I like ihs game and his approach to the game.
When he speaks you can see that he loves the game( like Barnes).
Mitchell imporoved every year and his improving is not finished.

But Yeah the majority here don't like him because of age and height.





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Post#3 » by orthoman » Sun Jul 4, 2021 3:12 pm

Pair him with Cole (T Rex) and we'll have the shortest backcourt in the league
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Post#4 » by Knightro » Sun Jul 4, 2021 3:28 pm

Not interested at all. Mitchell turns 23 soon and has exactly one season of good production when he was the oldest and perhaps the most physically and mentally mature player on the court every night.

Beyond that, I'm not convinced his crazy spike in 3PT shooting this past year is legitimate at all considering he still shot just 64% from the FT line.

He's a total stay away for me.
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Post#5 » by The Effect » Sun Jul 4, 2021 4:28 pm

The biggest positive i see for adding him would be his attitude. He seems to be the one guy in this draft who seems to have that killer\winning personality, ALMOST like a mamba mentality, in that hes going to find a way to beat you and wont stop til he does

That could be just what guys like bamba and RJ Hampton need around them. Cole seems to have some of that as well, but Mitchell to me could come in and take charge of that locker room on day 1 (doesnt hurt that hes older alot of young guys as well)

Would he be my ideal pick at 8? no, but i dont think id be upset if we did
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Post#6 » by tiderulz » Sun Jul 4, 2021 4:38 pm

he isnt top-10 worthy to me. looks like a backup PG. small size, bad FT shooter (64%), plays strong defense and improved 3 pt shot. if they hadnt been on TV in the title game, he is what you would normally see in a 2nd round PG pick.

Mitchell - 14/3/6 45% from 3, 6'2

for comparison, recent 2020 2nd round PG picks
Saben Lee - 19 ppg, 3 rpg, 4 apg 33% from 3, 6'2
Tre Jones - 16 ppg, 4 rpg, 6 apg, 36% from 3, 6'1
Cassius Winston - 19 ppg, 3 rpg, 6 apg, 43% from 3, 6'1

2019 draft 2nd round PG picks
Carsen Edwards - 24/4/3 36% from 3, 5'11
Tremont Waters - 15/3/6 34% from 3, 5'10
Justin Foreman - 27/4/3 42% from 3, 6'0
Jaylen Hands - 14/4/6 37% from 3, 6'3
Jordan Bone - 14/3/6 36% from 3, 6'2

almost all with average wingspan, avg athletic ability.
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Post#7 » by Xatticus » Sun Jul 4, 2021 4:53 pm

I just don’t believe he has much offensive upside. He’s a low-usage guy that isn’t really a creator/facilitator. If his shooting this year doesn’t translate, then he is a significant detriment to your offense. I do think he can help a team in the playoffs right now, but that is due to what he can provide defensively.
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Post#8 » by three3d » Sun Jul 4, 2021 6:49 pm

Knightro wrote:Not interested at all. Mitchell turns 23 soon and has exactly one season of good production when he was the oldest and perhaps the most physically and mentally mature player on the court every night.

Beyond that, I'm not convinced his crazy spike in 3PT shooting this past year is legitimate at all considering he still shot just 64% from the FT line.

He's a total stay away for me.

Exactly at 23 he can relate to these guys coming right out of College and is still older or as old as quit a few on our roster. We are an extremely young team and you either have to get a veteran alpha in the locker room and give him the team or you draft a kid like this who can relate and be that alpha in the locker room. We honestly don’t need more youth at this point, we have to start putting the pieces of the puzzle together that is going to form the team we want to be moving forward. As a long time Magic fan some of my favorite years Were the heart and hustle seasons with Darell Armstrong, Bo Outlaw, and Ben Wallace times. You’ve got to get that passionate player in the locker room, that guy that’s going to lead by example, the guy that does the dirty work so everybody else can follow. I don’t know if taking him at 5 is right but I doubt he’s there at 8.
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Post#9 » by Skin » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:05 pm

No, Davion is old. Imagine what Kuminga would do in college being 5 years older than he is now.
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Post#10 » by RookieStar » Sun Jul 4, 2021 8:56 pm

Well... if im wrong then ill eat crow BUT his short height and average wingspan won't be much help in his defensive reputation once in the league. He can bully all he wants the 6ft or so PGs in the NCAA. Bump and grind those underdeveloped bodies with his mature one. However, he does that to the average 6'3 PG in the nba with developed bodies?
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Post#11 » by axl_c_cool » Sun Jul 4, 2021 9:22 pm

Would pick him late lottery, early teens. He's perfect for a contender and would have a good long career with one. On a rebuilding team he could be out of the league

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Post#12 » by The Effect » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:42 pm

RookieStar wrote:Well... if im wrong then ill eat crow BUT his short height and average wingspan won't be much help in his defensive reputation once in the league. He can bully all he wants the 6ft or so PGs in the NCAA. Bump and grind those underdeveloped bodies with his mature one. However, he does that to the average 6'3 PG in the nba with developed bodies?


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Post#13 » by RookieStar » Sun Jul 4, 2021 10:47 pm

The Effect wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Well... if im wrong then ill eat crow BUT his short height and average wingspan won't be much help in his defensive reputation once in the league. He can bully all he wants the 6ft or so PGs in the NCAA. Bump and grind those underdeveloped bodies with his mature one. However, he does that to the average 6'3 PG in the nba with developed bodies?




Yeah. "underdeveloped" you know..18-19-20 yr old who hasnt been to the gym and toughened-up yet.
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Post#14 » by The Effect » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:39 pm

RookieStar wrote:
The Effect wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Well... if im wrong then ill eat crow BUT his short height and average wingspan won't be much help in his defensive reputation once in the league. He can bully all he wants the 6ft or so PGs in the NCAA. Bump and grind those underdeveloped bodies with his mature one. However, he does that to the average 6'3 PG in the nba with developed bodies?




Yeah. "underdeveloped" you know..18-19-20 yr old who hasnt been to the gym and toughened-up yet.


I mean i dont see too many 220lb PGs in the NBA, so i think if he can handle cades 6'8 220lb frame, i doubt he gets outmuscled by many PGs in the nba. Like what PG in the nba thats not oversized (aka luka, simmons, lamelo) is even 205? Dame and Westbrook are the only ones that come to mind, maybe Jrue?.
But i think he can more than handle himself physically against say Trae young, Ja Morant, D.fox etc
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Post#15 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:43 pm

I wouldn't knock him purely based off of height. Chris Paul is 6' and that hasn't stopped him from being a great player.
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Post#16 » by Magic Mops » Sun Jul 4, 2021 11:51 pm

RookieStar wrote:Well... if im wrong then ill eat crow BUT his short height and average wingspan won't be much help in his defensive reputation once in the league. He can bully all he wants the 6ft or so PGs in the NCAA. Bump and grind those underdeveloped bodies with his mature one. However, he does that to the average 6'3 PG in the nba with developed bodies?

Well he played great defense against Cunningham who is much bigger.!!!

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Post#17 » by RookieStar » Mon Jul 5, 2021 12:28 am

Magic Mops wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Well... if im wrong then ill eat crow BUT his short height and average wingspan won't be much help in his defensive reputation once in the league. He can bully all he wants the 6ft or so PGs in the NCAA. Bump and grind those underdeveloped bodies with his mature one. However, he does that to the average 6'3 PG in the nba with developed bodies?

Well he played great defense against Cunningham who is much bigger.!!!



Yup... as I said underdeveloped bodies. I mean sure he could "probably" do that on the league but honestly, you saying a 6'7 220 lb 19yr old college rookie is stronger than a 6'3 210 lb 26 yrd old nba vet?
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Post#18 » by RookieStar » Mon Jul 5, 2021 12:41 am

The Effect wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
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Yeah. "underdeveloped" you know..18-19-20 yr old who hasnt been to the gym and toughened-up yet.


I mean i dont see too many 220lb PGs in the NBA, so i think if he can handle cades 6'8 220lb frame, i doubt he gets outmuscled by many PGs in the nba. Like what PG in the nba thats not oversized (aka luka, simmons, lamelo) is even 205? Dame and Westbrook are the only ones that come to mind, maybe Jrue?.
But i think he can more than handle himself physically against say Trae young, Ja Morant, D.fox etc


I can see him muscle and bump the 6ft or so "smallish" PG in the league like Trae,FVV, Kemba in a FEW YEARS ( because admit it, refs arent gonna call.it favorably for ANY rookie ) but dont think he can do that to the fox, Morant , Jrue..

who knows though. i could be wrong and he will have the same defensive rep like smart and beverly.
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Post#19 » by drsd » Mon Jul 5, 2021 6:47 am

orthoman wrote:Pair him with Cole (T Rex) and we'll have the shortest backcourt in the league


Mitchell, Anthony, and Hampton all fighting for off-ball PG minutes: no thank you.

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Post#20 » by Magic Mops » Mon Jul 5, 2021 9:14 am

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