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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#101 » by MoMM » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:15 am

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RookieStar wrote:So... uhhh any info already how much we are paying him? I think it has to be less than what we are paying RoLo


No one knows yet. He hasn't officially signed the deal.

I suspect it's for the minimum with the 2nd year being an option for one of the two sides, but there's no telling until the deal is signed.


Any chance it's Mo playing hardball? like he wants more than the min?

But isn't it a done deal? And we, fans, are just waiting for the final numbers?
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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#102 » by RookieStar » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:34 am

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No one knows yet. He hasn't officially signed the deal.

I suspect it's for the minimum with the 2nd year being an option for one of the two sides, but there's no telling until the deal is signed.


Any chance it's Mo playing hardball? like he wants more than the min?

But isn't it a done deal? And we, fans, are just waiting for the final numbers?


I really have no idea. Besides nothing isa done dral.unless the signature is in the contract yes? And so far as has been discussed, no one has signed anything yet.
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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#103 » by drsd » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:40 am

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$1,729,217 in 2021/22
$1,878,720 in 2022/23 as a team option

It is a friendly deal for the Magic.

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Can't imagine him signing for that. I think he gets at least 10m guaranteed.


It would absolutely blow my mind if Moritz Wagner got anything approaching $10M. I doubt his second season is fully guaranteed.

He was a street free agent that no one wanted and he joined a team playing out the string. Let's not oversell what he is or isn't.


Anyhow, the above is his reported contract.

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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#104 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 23, 2021 10:16 am

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basketballRob wrote:Can't imagine him signing for that. I think he gets at least 10m guaranteed.


It would absolutely blow my mind if Moritz Wagner got anything approaching $10M. I doubt his second season is fully guaranteed.

He was a street free agent that no one wanted and he joined a team playing out the string. Let's not oversell what he is or isn't.


Anyhow, the above is his reported contract.

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I haven't seen those numbers reported anywhere.

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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#105 » by jonbob17 » Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:06 pm

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It would absolutely blow my mind if Moritz Wagner got anything approaching $10M. I doubt his second season is fully guaranteed.

He was a street free agent that no one wanted and he joined a team playing out the string. Let's not oversell what he is or isn't.


Anyhow, the above is his reported contract.

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I haven't seen those numbers reported anywhere.

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How are the Magic so secretive about their contracts and deals?

I am still waiting to hear how much we sold pick 33 for.
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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#106 » by drsd » Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:09 pm

jonbob17 wrote:How are the Magic so secretive about their contracts and deals?

I am still waiting to hear how much we sold pick 33 for.


That's on ownership. And the answer is it is always been this way. Not really an answer, but that's how the Magic is.

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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#107 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:53 pm

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jonbob17 wrote:How are the Magic so secretive about their contracts and deals?

I am still waiting to hear how much we sold pick 33 for.


That's on ownership. And the answer is it is always been this way. Not really an answer, but that's how the Magic is.

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Once the deal is finalized with the NBA, I believe the content of the contract is available publicly.

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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#112 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:35 am

basketballRob wrote:
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MoMM wrote:Any news about how much we will pay him and if the 2nd year is guaranteed?


$1,729,217 in 2021/22
$1,878,720 in 2022/23 as a team option

It is a friendly deal for the Magic.

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Can't imagine him signing for that. I think he gets at least 10m guaranteed.

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That is what he signed for with 2nd year as a team option.
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Post#113 » by Nyce_1 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:46 am

we got him cheaper than what I was expecting. Good job.
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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#114 » by OrlandO » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:07 am

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basketballRob wrote:
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$1,729,217 in 2021/22
$1,878,720 in 2022/23 as a team option

It is a friendly deal for the Magic.

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Can't imagine him signing for that. I think he gets at least 10m guaranteed.

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That is what he signed for with 2nd year as a team option.


Moritz can exchange to Brazilian money to get to 10 million
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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#115 » by Knightro » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:18 am

Some of y'all were really blowing my mind suggesting Moe Wagner could get $10M to $15M, or even get multiple guaranteed years.
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Post#116 » by RookieStar » Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:23 am

so... anyone thinks we waive him sonwe dont have to paynhis 2nd yr? Or would that sour our relationship with Franz?
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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#117 » by pepe1991 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:27 am

RookieStar wrote:so... anyone thinks we waive him sonwe dont have to paynhis 2nd yr? Or would that sour our relationship with Franz?


tbh i'm not sure he'lll survive year 1 until the end.
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Post#118 » by basketballRob » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:03 am

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basketballRob wrote:Can't imagine him signing for that. I think he gets at least 10m guaranteed.

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That is what he signed for with 2nd year as a team option.


Moritz can exchange to Brazilian money to get to 10 million
I'm wrong every few years. Lol. Seriously I think he can be a Olynyk type player with regular rotational minutes. Not sure he'll get them here or not tho.

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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#119 » by basketballRob » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:05 am

Knightro wrote:Some of y'all were really blowing my mind suggesting Moe Wagner could get $10M to $15M, or even get multiple guaranteed years.
I still think he's a better player than people here say. I mean I've heard that he's an awful player, and that's not true.

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Re: Magic sign F/C Moritz Wagner to a 2-Year Contract (Robbins) 

Post#120 » by RookieStar » Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:48 am

pepe1991 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:so... anyone thinks we waive him sonwe dont have to paynhis 2nd yr? Or would that sour our relationship with Franz?


tbh i'm not sure he'lll survive year 1 until the end.


Normally I would think that if notnfor the fact that we just saw Birch who signed that ( was it 3yr/20m??) after pluckiing him from Europe.

So yeah... if Mo does what Birch did and totally outwork and outplays our "high pick" and "oft-injured" Centers, then... who knows

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