Cole Anthony & Jalen Suggs the Magic starting backcourt of the future?

[Bigmagicfan82]

Want to see what the board thinks about how well the Suggs and Anthony backcourt have performed.

[RookieStar]

Errrrr.... yeah too early. Wait and see what Fultz has.

[tiderulz]

personally, as with any rookies, would like to wait about half the season. there is always adjustments from college to the pros. early returns look good, but MCW also wont ROY, so..

[nicnac215]

Orlando has a problem in that they have 8 legit young prospects who deserve a chance to start but only 5 starting spots. Markelle, Cole, Jalen, Franz, Jon, Chuma, Mo, and Wendell. On top of that they will likely have one of the top prospects from the next draft, crossing my fingers for Chet or Jaden.

So either we really need to have the guys buy into a 9 man rotation with relatively equal minutes and not an emphasis on starting or you need to consolidate our assets and trade for a legit star.

[JF5]

Orlando has a problem in that they have 8 legit young prospects who deserve a chance to start but only 5 starting spots. Markelle, Cole, Jalen, Franz, Jon, Chuma, Mo, and Wendell. On top of that they will likely have one of the top prospects from the next draft, crossing my fingers for Chet or Jaden.

So either we really need to have the guys buy into a 9 man rotation with relatively equal minutes and not an emphasis on starting or you need to consolidate our assets and trade for a legit star.

They'll try to make a trade for a Star first with those assets...

[RookieStar]

Orlando has a problem in that they have 8 legit young prospects who deserve a chance to start but only 5 starting spots. Markelle, Cole, Jalen, Franz, Jon, Chuma, Mo, and Wendell. On top of that they will likely have one of the top prospects from the next draft, crossing my fingers for Chet or Jaden.

So either we really need to have the guys buy into a 9 man rotation with relatively equal minutes and not an emphasis on starting or you need to consolidate our assets and trade for a legit star.

They'll try to make a trade for a Star first with those assets...

You gotta hold me down and twist my arms but ill reluctantly agree to do a Bamba, Cole, RJ, Chuma , Tross for luka and kristaps


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[fendilim]

No. Cole is a good 6th man.

[Bigmagicfan82]

Orlando has a problem in that they have 8 legit young prospects who deserve a chance to start but only 5 starting spots. Markelle, Cole, Jalen, Franz, Jon, Chuma, Mo, and Wendell. On top of that they will likely have one of the top prospects from the next draft, crossing my fingers for Chet or Jaden.

So either we really need to have the guys buy into a 9 man rotation with relatively equal minutes and not an emphasis on starting or you need to consolidate our assets and trade for a legit star.

I know I will take some flack for this but I think in this draft Orlando needs to focus on the 4 or the 5 position with our pick. Those are our two weakest areas. Once JI comes back, he will start at the 4. Chuma will most likely be the primary back up SF with Franz as the starter. That would leave us a massive hole at the back up 4. We should try and draft our second unit PF and hopefully he will be someone that can rebound the ball. I also feel that someone will be traded too. At least 3 of the guards have to go. I assume the Ross and Harris are 2 of the 3. They will be traded by the deadline. The last person could be Fultz or RJ depending on how thigs go and what the front office is planning.

[pinoynurse]

No. Cole is a good 6th man.

For now i Agree. Problem is will he be willing to go to the bench. Will coach mosely have the cahones to make him a 6th man.

[drsd]

Coach Mosley will play his best players. We could very well be in a situation where the backcourt is Anthony and Fultz. And as a Magic fan, I am of course thrilled that Anthony has muscled himself into unquestioned starter.

If Orlando "accidentally" found its star PG as the 15th pick, so what. A star is a star even if Fultz and/or Suggs is benched or traded.

This roster is a mess and there will be a lot of guard changes moving forward.

My point: let's say that Anthony is a bona fide 19/6/8 player, then I am really OK with a trade of Suggs AND Fultz for a traditional SG.

Is Anthony actually a 19/6/8 player though ???? The answer there is the rub.



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[drsd]

Right now Anthony is a top-5 player for the MIP vote, in my opinion.

[basketballRob]

Coach Mosley will play his best players. We could very well be in a situation where the backcourt is Anthony and Fultz. And as a Magic fan, I am of course thrilled that Anthony has muscled himself into unquestioned starter.

If Orlando "accidentally" found its star PG as the 15th pick, so what. A star is a star even if Fultz and/or Suggs is benched or traded.

This roster is a mess and there will be a lot of guard changes moving forward.

My point: let's say that Anthony is a bona fide 19/6/8 player, then I am really OK with a trade of Suggs AND Fultz for a traditional SG.

Is Anthony actually a 19/6/8 player though ???? The answer there is the rub.



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I wouldn't trade Suggs before you find out how good he can be. Defensively he's probably the best guard we've had in a long time. Defensive guards make a difference, the starting lineup is the best in the league.

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[drsd]

Coach Mosley will play his best players. We could very well be in a situation where the backcourt is Anthony and Fultz. And as a Magic fan, I am of course thrilled that Anthony has muscled himself into unquestioned starter.

If Orlando "accidentally" found its star PG as the 15th pick, so what. A star is a star even if Fultz and/or Suggs is benched or traded.

This roster is a mess and there will be a lot of guard changes moving forward.

My point: let's say that Anthony is a bona fide 19/6/8 player, then I am really OK with a trade of Suggs AND Fultz for a traditional SG.

Is Anthony actually a 19/6/8 player though ???? The answer there is the rub.



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I wouldn't trade Suggs before you find out how good he can be. Defensively he's probably the best guard we've had in a long time. Defensive guards make a difference, the starting lineup is the best in the league.

And-1. I wouldn't trade Fultz either for the same reason. For now. But moving forward, say next off-season, a Change of some sort is needed.

Right now I see Fultz as a bench player to close out the year. That is good for his rehab anyway.


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[JBSouthpaw]

Coach Mosley will play his best players. We could very well be in a situation where the backcourt is Anthony and Fultz. And as a Magic fan, I am of course thrilled that Anthony has muscled himself into unquestioned starter.

If Orlando "accidentally" found its star PG as the 15th pick, so what. A star is a star even if Fultz and/or Suggs is benched or traded.

This roster is a mess and there will be a lot of guard changes moving forward.

My point: let's say that Anthony is a bona fide 19/6/8 player, then I am really OK with a trade of Suggs AND Fultz for a traditional SG.

Is Anthony actually a 19/6/8 player though ???? The answer there is the rub.



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I wouldn't trade Suggs before you find out how good he can be. Defensively he's probably the best guard we've had in a long time. Defensive guards make a difference, the starting lineup is the best in the league.

And-1. I wouldn't trade Fultz either for the same reason. For now. But moving forward, say next off-season, a Change of some sort is needed.

Right now I see Fultz as a bench player to close out the year. That is good for his rehab anyway.

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I like Fultz and Ross together, Ross likes to move without the ball, Fultz can drive and kick.

I think Fultz, RJ, Ross, Okeke and any of our centers make a good 2nd team.

Ross, Okeke and either Mo or WCJ can shoot to keep the lanes open for Fultz and RJ.

[Last Guardian]

Too early. Suggs is a great one on one defender but hasn't showed much of anything offensively. Honestly he has looked like a slightly better MCW so far. I'm sure he'll be fine but he has to start showing flashes first.

Cole is definitely getting interesting offensively. On one hand you want more of a playmaker, on the other he is the modern day scorer (so far) that every team needs. Lets see if he keeps it up.

[BDill012]

Coach Mosley will play his best players. We could very well be in a situation where the backcourt is Anthony and Fultz. And as a Magic fan, I am of course thrilled that Anthony has muscled himself into unquestioned starter.

If Orlando "accidentally" found its star PG as the 15th pick, so what. A star is a star even if Fultz and/or Suggs is benched or traded.

This roster is a mess and there will be a lot of guard changes moving forward.

My point: let's say that Anthony is a bona fide 19/6/8 player, then I am really OK with a trade of Suggs AND Fultz for a traditional SG.

Is Anthony actually a 19/6/8 player though ???? The answer there is the rub.



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I wouldn't trade Suggs before you find out how good he can be. Defensively he's probably the best guard we've had in a long time. Defensive guards make a difference, the starting lineup is the best in the league.

And-1. I wouldn't trade Fultz either for the same reason. For now. But moving forward, say next off-season, a Change of some sort is needed.

Right now I see Fultz as a bench player to close out the year. That is good for his rehab anyway.


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I agree with that. Honestly, I wouldn't change the starting lineup at all. I think you keep rolling with the starting lineup and how nice of a lineup is Fultz, Harris/Ross, Chuma, Isaac, RoLo going against backups?

The starting unit has been playing well. I really intrigued with the thought of that. Of course it is still a while off, but that is pretty exciting.

It really feels like things are happening here and I have a level of excitement/intrigue for watching this play out that I haven't had in a while.

[drsd]

I agree with that. Honestly, I wouldn't change the starting lineup at all. I think you keep rolling with the starting lineup and how nice of a lineup is Fultz, Harris/Ross, Chuma, Isaac, RoLo going against backups?

The starting unit has been playing well. I really intrigued with the thought of that. Of course it is still a while off, but that is pretty exciting.

It really feels like things are happening here and I have a level of excitement/intrigue for watching this play out that I haven't had in a while.

For whatever reason, Anthony/Suggs/F-Wagner/Carter/Bamba works as well as any starting five the Magic has had in the last 10 years. It cannot change.


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[Def Swami]

If Anthony is going to continue to score with this efficiency for the year, he's going to earn a spot as a starter. After that, it comes down to Suggs vs. Fultz. I think Suggs might come off the bench when Fultz comes back. I think I'd be okay with that. Let him get reps against bench units. At the same time, Suggs' defense is part of the reason that starting lineup has been good. Ultimately, the future might be a Suggs-Anthony backcourt. It really comes down to whether Fultz can shoot or not.

The Magic have 3 nice guard prospects. And I still like Hampton.

[Bergmaniac]

I expect Fultz to come off the bench when he comes back unless the starting unit falls off a cliff statistically, it would be madness to change something that's been working so well. Suggs and Cole have a +16 net rating together, and our starting lineup is the best in the league so far in net rating among lineups which have played at least 100 possessions.

I am also not nearly as high on Fultz as most here. His lack of shooting is a huge issue. Suggs have shot very poorly so far too, but teams aren't leaving him completely open all the time like they did with Fultz and Suggs is also way better defensively.

[MagicFan101]

If this is going to work then I probably see it this way:

1) We find a SUPER STAR offensive threat to take over at SG.

2) Suggs figures it out and becomes our floor general PG, defensive front man and reliable offensive weapon (17 ppg).

3) Cole is our long term, more complete replacement for Ross as the 6th man spark plug.

Fultz is the odd man out in the long run.