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2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97

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Sweater Vest No. 2

Poll ended at Wed Nov 3, 2021 3:56 am

Anthony: 31 PTS, 9 REB, 8 AST, 8-17 FG, 6-11 3PT, +19
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57%
F. Wagner: 28 PTS, 4 REB, 2 AST, 2 STL, 1 BLK, 10-18 FG, 5-9 3PT, +14
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43%
Suggs: 15 PTS, 4 REB, 1 BLK, +4
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Carter: 15 PTS, 14 REB, 3 AST, 5-8 FG
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Total votes: 61

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2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#1 » by Def Swami » Tue Nov 2, 2021 3:56 am



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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#2 » by tooler » Tue Nov 2, 2021 3:58 am

It's okay. We won't mind if you make every sweater vest thread a replay from beating the Knicks.
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Post#3 » by tooler » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:11 am

Fixed that NBA on ESPN infographic:

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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#4 » by X_O_Z » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:14 am

FRANZ Dunk alone should have been worth 4 points. I was very happy with Cole Anthony pick last year and saw him a potential starter for the Magic years to come. Now look at him. Franz is our new Hedo w/ Defense.
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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#5 » by Def Swami » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:17 am

What a special game by Franz Wanger. It has been awhile since I've been this satisfied by a rookie. It's not about the numbers as much as the poise that he plays with. He rarely forces things. He rarely makes a bad play. He plays within himself. He hits open shots. He can get into the paint and finish. He can make plays off the bounce. Every game he surprises me by how much is in his bag. He had this play in the first quarter where he was dribbling in traffic and made a defender miss with a behind the back dribble and finished it with a floater. Obviously, the dunk over the entire city of Minneapolis was new. He's a really skilled player who seems like he's gaining confidence every game.

Let's also not lose sight that Cole Anthony is at 19/7/6 on 45/45/81 splits almost 60% TS! :onfire: The last guard to average more than 20 ppg for a season was Steve Francis in '04-'05. Could the drought be over? I really just appreciate the pathos of Cole Anthony. I have longed for a guy with the fearlessness of a John Wick gun slinger. This team really struggled during the last rebuild to find someone to fill that role. I don't know if Anthony is truly good enough to be worthy of this kind of long term role. But through 7 games and his production, I'm very interested. And I appreciate that he's here to step up and take a stab at it.
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Post#6 » by Bensational » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:31 am

I voted for Cole but I valued Franz’ game more. I feel like I owe Cole credit when he’s making shots, because I’m pretty unforgiving when he’s not. But Fran just plays smart and within himself and the offense and it’s so much more enjoyable to watch. Still, Cole can definitely put on a show and he did so in a big way in that 2nd half.
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Post#7 » by CPBalla2003 n da 863 » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:53 am

I voted for Cole, he facilitated very well down the stretch and for someone who gets called selfish, he stepped back and rolled with the hot hand in Franz closing the game tonight. If this is the version we are getting from Cole, there is no way I am sending him to the bench. It'll be Him and Fultz once he comes back and gets up to speed.
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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#8 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:58 am

I voted reluctantly for Cole because he went super nova and got us the lead that got Minny out of sorts. But I so badly wanted to vote for Franz after that performance and the German Hammer.

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Post#9 » by MoMM » Tue Nov 2, 2021 7:43 am

Cole, but I am really surprised with Franz, now he is scoring like we always asked AG.
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Post#10 » by drsd » Tue Nov 2, 2021 10:05 am

tooler wrote:Fixed that NBA on ESPN infographic:

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"One dunk" What ????

Talk about finding filler for spacing a graphic.



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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#11 » by basketballRob » Tue Nov 2, 2021 10:10 am

Cole's net rating is +5.6. That's really good for a losing team.

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Post#12 » by drsd » Tue Nov 2, 2021 10:10 am

MoMM wrote:Cole, but I am really surprised with Franz, now he is scoring like we always asked AG.


F-Wagner really looks like he will nicely complement Isaac.

Around the ASW, we fans get this rotation:

Anthony/Fultz
Suggs/Hampton
F-Wagner/Ross
Isaac/Okeke
Bamba/Carter

Looking at that bench compared to the mess of today, I am really excited. Heck: the deep bench is Carter-Williams, Harris, M-Wagner, and Lopez. That is real depth!


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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#13 » by jezzerinho » Tue Nov 2, 2021 10:16 am

Had to go Franz because of how young and inexperienced he is to be putting on such a 2-way show. But Cole deserves it equally as much. Nice conundrum to have....
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Post#14 » by drsd » Tue Nov 2, 2021 10:25 am

Bensational wrote:I voted for Cole but I valued Franz’ game more. I feel like I owe Cole credit when he’s making shots, because I’m pretty unforgiving when he’s not. But Fran just plays smart and within himself and the offense and it’s so much more enjoyable to watch. Still, Cole can definitely put on a show and he did so in a big way in that 2nd half.


This was my vote as well. I cannot ignore the rebounds and assists.


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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#15 » by Skybox » Tue Nov 2, 2021 11:01 am

Cole but, of course, nothing better than Franz just busting out and showing there's really nothing on the court that is out of his reach. He showed everything. I totally valued him at #8 as "glue guy, makes the right plays, good D, not really a shooter" but tonight we saw some STAR swagger. That dunk late in the 4th just showed the flair that great players have...he and Cole took over that game, had it well in hand (but not quite locked down 100%) and he showed that killer, nail in the coffin, instinct for a big play. Just awesome!

Really happy for Cole to be proving em wrong (me included)...keep it up. He may be the Alpha we've been praying for.
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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#16 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Nov 2, 2021 11:46 am

drsd wrote:
tooler wrote:Fixed that NBA on ESPN infographic:

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"One dunk" What ????

Talk about finding filler for spacing a graphic.



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Never forget that Shelvin Mack graphic....meme.

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Post#17 » by Last Guardian » Tue Nov 2, 2021 12:58 pm

Cole and Franz did equally great offensively, but went with Cole as the +/- was the tiebreaker.
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Post#18 » by tooler » Tue Nov 2, 2021 1:03 pm

drsd wrote:"One dunk" What ????

Talk about finding filler for spacing a graphic.

That’s the joke! Because Franz’s secondary stats were a bit light that game, they had to fill the graphic with his two steals, which isn’t that great. So why not acknowledge the biggest play of the game?? Just having fun with it.
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Post#19 » by AaronB » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:57 pm

I wanted to go with Mo Wagner.

Played 6 minutes and was +15

Talk about efficiency!

If we could only get that every night ...
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Re: 2021-2022 Sweater Vest Thread #2: Magic 115 - Wolves 97 

Post#20 » by Skybox » Tue Nov 2, 2021 5:01 pm

drsd wrote:
MoMM wrote:Cole, but I am really surprised with Franz, now he is scoring like we always asked AG.


F-Wagner really looks like he will nicely complement Isaac.
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Or...replace him (Dare I say it).

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