jonbob17 wrote: pepe1991 wrote:
thelead wrote:I never said he wasn’t good nor somewhat valuable. I just didn’t care for his contract and role here. Neither were his fault. Vuc is a good player but he didn’t have the effect that DeRozan and Ball are having on the Bulls. That’s not to say he’s not an important piece to their team but I still think that money could be better spent for the bulls. For example, if they could trade Vuc for half of what the lakers gave up for Westbrook, they would be better off. They need depth more than they need Vuc IMO.
Did anybody saw Derozan being top 5 MVP candidate tho? Guy was named as worst move by executives in nba in summer
Vuc will be very important peace for them moving forward, especially because Lonzo is terrible mid court playmaker, mostly because he draws no fouls whatsoever and thrives in transition and in general likes to swing ball more than create offense. They are 8-3 with him,despite him shooting bricks, they will add vets around allstar break when teams clear vaiwers.
Depth is important to survive regualr season and injuries, but doesn't matter that much in playoffs. So Bulls will probably be fine and if they need emergancy trade, there is Troy Brown and Derick Jones salary, they had $15M of salary tied with them, both expiring, add pick and it's easy trade ..Hell, allegedly, they will trade Coby White for big or PF.
Oh, boy...creepy Vuc obsession and Ball hate. I am shocked.
Ball has been amazing, and is one of the better guard defenders in the game, as well as great in transition, and the perfect guard to complement Lavine and Derozan. They don't need a guard that is going to take the ball out of Lavine's and Derozan's hands.
Vuc will be fine, but he's just part of the puzzle. I will say he has been better on the defensive side of the floor this year. The rub on Vuc was what he would look like on a good team. Was he 24/12 All star or was he 17/10 guy with more efficiency. Well the Bulls look legit, and while Vuc has been horribly inefficient, i am sure he will improve and settle in to a 16 points a game guy with good efficiency, rebounds, and a good passer for the position, all of which will help the Bulls be better.
Where did I "hated" Ball?
Pick and roll simply isn't his game. He has been 18th percentile pick&roll ballhandler this year, witch is in line with his career numbers.
Two years ago, as lead point guard on Pelicans, his pick&roll was among top 8 worst among PGs . 10th percentile. This is execlly reason why he was turned into "two" last year . But pointing out obvious is "hate" so yea, i must be hard hater for knowing facts...
Lonzo is perfect guard to add on team with guys like Derozan and Lavine because he is unselfish and good defender, but in playoffs you need PG on ball... And Lonzo isn't that guy, so he developed as off ball shooter , so that's good. In past i was "Lonzo -superstar" notion "hater" because it was so damn obvious he won't ever be one. That doesn't mean i don't think Lonzo is good nba player.
This is my first Vuc- comment in last... 5 months, i'm too lazy to check, but it has been ages. So ,there goes that " creepy obsession" part of comment right through toilet. Btw i saw you somwhere that you wrote that Magic are 9th best offense.
Prediction day after Vuc, Gordon, Evan departure - most fans who are celebrating birth of new rebuild will be crying how rebuild is painful before 2022-23 season ends.
Date of writeup: March 26th, 2021.