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2021-2022 Regular Season Game 14: Orlando Magic (3-10) at Atlanta Hawks (5-9) - 11/15/21 at 7:30pm ET

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Re: 2021-2022 Regular Season Game 14: Orlando Magic (3-10) at Atlanta Hawks (5-9) - 11/15/21 at 7:30pm ET 

Post#81 » by Ducklett » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:52 am

This officiating went from bad to hilariously bad.
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Post#82 » by Xatticus » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:52 am

We picked up a bunch of cheap fouls early in the 2nd quarter and the Hawks just went hunting for fouls once they got us into the bonus. The same thing is happening in this quarter.
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Post#83 » by Ducklett » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:53 am

Cool. The refs took me right out of this. Have a nice night guys.
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Post#84 » by RichCollab » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:55 am

Are we missing Suggs defense? Or is this all on the refs?
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Post#85 » by Xatticus » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:55 am

That was a BS call against WCJ. Young just collapsed and they gave him the foul. That's the kind of **** they are supposedly trying to get out of the game.
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Post#86 » by ChosenSavior » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:55 am

The ball movement offensively has disappeared in this quarter.
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Post#87 » by thelead » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:56 am

RichCollab wrote:Cole is the starting PG. Fultz doesn’t get it back automatically. We need an SG

Please, please, please watch Cole on defense. He is having a hell of a game on offense but 70% is not sustainable and his defense is atrocious.

I beg of you, stop watching just the flashy stuff.
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Post#88 » by ChosenSavior » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:58 am

Finally we are getting FTs lol
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Post#89 » by thelead » Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:59 am

ChosenSavior wrote:Finally we are getting FTs lol

Cole is not dumb. He might be the best guy on the team that understands that theatrics is part of getting calls unfortunately.
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Post#90 » by ChosenSavior » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:00 am

Cole needs to stop jumping to pass. He was fortunate that Harris saved that possession.
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Post#91 » by Magic_Kingdom » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:01 am

Man what has happened to Chuma's shot?
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Post#92 » by RichCollab » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:02 am

Cole has 8 assists showing some ability to get the ball to others where they are comfortable scoring from.
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Post#93 » by JTG_92940618 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:02 am

thelead wrote:
RichCollab wrote:Cole is the starting PG. Fultz doesn’t get it back automatically. We need an SG

Please, please, please watch Cole on defense. He is having a hell of a game on offense but 70% is not sustainable and his defense is atrocious.

I beg of you, stop watching just the flashy stuff.


In general, Cole is not good at defence but is Fultz so good on D to make up for being a non-shooter?

The Fultz V Cole debate is not cut and dried, partly because they both have developing to do but also because Fultz isn't even playing.
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Post#94 » by ChosenSavior » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:04 am

Cole's passing has not been good in the 3rd.
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Post#95 » by ChosenSavior » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:05 am

Miss the days when Isaac would lock up John Collins lol
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Post#96 » by thelead » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:05 am

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RichCollab wrote:Cole is the starting PG. Fultz doesn’t get it back automatically. We need an SG

Please, please, please watch Cole on defense. He is having a hell of a game on offense but 70% is not sustainable and his defense is atrocious.

I beg of you, stop watching just the flashy stuff.


In general, Cole is not good at defence but is Fultz so good on D to make up for being a non-shooter?

The Fultz V Cole debate is not cut and dried, partly because they both have developing to do but also because Fultz isn't even playing.

The playmaking that we're seeing from Cole tonight, that everyone is complementing, is what Fultz does every night. So no, it's not just the defense but to me it's a big part of it.
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Post#97 » by Knightro » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 am

Ross is just miserable to watch.
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Post#98 » by RookieStar » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 am

ChosenSavior wrote:Miss the days when Isaac would lock up John Collins lol


I know... Collins has ptsd every time he see JI. If JI was healthy last year he night have cost Collins a 0 in the figures for his contract.
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Post#99 » by Xatticus » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:09 am

ChosenSavior wrote:Cole's passing has not been good in the 3rd.


The offense has sucked in the third Q. It's nothing but iso ball.
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Post#100 » by RookieStar » Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:10 am

thelead wrote:
JTG_92940618 wrote:
thelead wrote:Please, please, please watch Cole on defense. He is having a hell of a game on offense but 70% is not sustainable and his defense is atrocious.

I beg of you, stop watching just the flashy stuff.


In general, Cole is not good at defence but is Fultz so good on D to make up for being a non-shooter?

The Fultz V Cole debate is not cut and dried, partly because they both have developing to do but also because Fultz isn't even playing.

The playmaking that we're seeing from Cole tonight, that everyone is complementing, is what Fultz does every night. So no, it's not just the defense but to me it's a big part of it.


Exactly this. Even with ballhog Evan and playmaking Vuc taking the ball away from Fultz, he can make excelleny plays and pass.

Plus in defense, I saw Fultz bodying and staying with his man all throughout. Right now Cole CAN stay with his man but he is too weak to defend when he is bodied up.

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