thelead wrote:The Effect wrote:thelead wrote:That deal was absolutely contingent on the pick we got back. I voted A and not A+++ because we (likely) didn't land a superstar (very unreasonable I know). We lucked out once the trade went down and the bulls started losing and then Zack went down. Getting the 8th pick, making the right pick in Franz, and signing WCJ for what we did makes this an A at worst... and I haven't mentioned next year's pick yet. The front office crushed that deal.
I disagree, Fran has all the potential to be a Vuc level star, if not bigger star. Superstar? maybe not, to me superstars are Lebron, Giannis, curry, kd etc. We werent getting that back for Vuc
As for the deal, ill say A++++
20 year old Wagner making 5m a year is already better than a 31 year old 25m per year Vuc
Add in Wendell, another 1st rounder AND getting to dump Aminu and there is literally no way the trade could of played out better for us
I said they crushed it and gave it an A... You make it sound like I'm hating on the deal. If this deal is an A+++ what would you rate the trade if instead of Franz, who I love, we drafted a Luka (superstar) level player? That's all I'm saying in my post. There is no hate at all.
At the time of the deal I hated the deal but it was because the Bulls were not on track to get the 8th pick. They ended up injured and playing poorly the rest of the way. We got lucky and we deserve it after the decade we've been through
I was mostly just disagreeing with the part about "because we didnt land a superstar", i dont think there was any way to land a superstar from vuc straight up (would need draft luck), and i think Wagner can be a star level player
I mean sure id be excited if we could of gotten a luka out of the deal, obviously, but thats such an unlikely thing that i cant even use it as a barometer for a trade