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Skybox wrote:Here's one out of left field...
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7513800
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton
WAS sends: Deni Avdija, Corey Kispert

I like Cole but I'd sell high (QUICK) for a little more spacing and team play. WAS is thick with big wings with Kuzma, Bertans, and now Hachimura back and don't have enough scoring depth at the guard spot. Cole could come off the bench but play big minutes. ORL has Fultz and, especially, Suggs to run point (along with Franz as a big guard/point forward)...Avidja and Kispert don't have numbers like Cole, but are solid, all-around players with high BBIQ and, most importantly, floor-spreading range (allegedly). RJ is another cost-controlled energy guy with yet-to-be determined upside. Basically, I'd be hoping to trade flash for substance and understand that there may be quite a few nights reading about Cole going for 30 and that's ok. WAS could play some 3 guard lineups that might be pretty electrifying too. The ORL lineup below just gives me "play the right way" vibes with Franz being the best example of what we're hoping to do. You could start 3 Franz's if you had them. Everyone other than Fultz and Bamba are basically positionless, versatile players that can be organized in many different sets.

Fultz/Suggs/MCW
Franz/Harris/TRoss
Avidja/Kispert
Isaac/Chuma/M.Wagner
WCJ/Bamba/RoLo

Lots of actual basketball skill (shooting!!) as well as positional size and defensive possibility on this roster and still significant room for more change. Harris, TRoss,Bamba are all apparently in play as well as picks and a TPE.

The Effect wrote:

Skybox wrote:Here's one out of left field...
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7513800
ORL sends: Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton
WAS sends: Deni Avdija, Corey Kispert

I like Cole but I'd sell high (QUICK) for a little more spacing and team play. WAS is thick with big wings with Kuzma, Bertans, and now Hachimura back and don't have enough scoring depth at the guard spot. Cole could come off the bench but play big minutes. ORL has Fultz and, especially, Suggs to run point (along with Franz as a big guard/point forward)...Avidja and Kispert don't have numbers like Cole, but are solid, all-around players with high BBIQ and, most importantly, floor-spreading range (allegedly). RJ is another cost-controlled energy guy with yet-to-be determined upside. Basically, I'd be hoping to trade flash for substance and understand that there may be quite a few nights reading about Cole going for 30 and that's ok. WAS could play some 3 guard lineups that might be pretty electrifying too. The ORL lineup below just gives me "play the right way" vibes with Franz being the best example of what we're hoping to do. You could start 3 Franz's if you had them. Everyone other than Fultz and Bamba are basically positionless, versatile players that can be organized in many different sets.

Fultz/Suggs/MCW
Franz/Harris/TRoss
Avidja/Kispert
Isaac/Chuma/M.Wagner
WCJ/Bamba/RoLo

Lots of actual basketball skill (shooting!!) as well as positional size and defensive possibility on this roster and still significant room for more change. Harris, TRoss,Bamba are all apparently in play as well as picks and a TPE.

i swear people are so quick to want to get rid of Cole that they would literally give him away for nothing
Deni has shown nothing in 2 years . Hes a below average shooter and defender and really is only hype at this point. And Krispert has barely played. Not saying kispert wont be good, but to this point hasnt even shown to be a good shooter, and thats basically going to his calling card

We finally get someone who knows how to lead and how to put the ball in the basket (wow crazy concepts huh?), not to mention wants to be in Orlando....... and everyone is dying for them to get sent out ASAP for garbage

orthoman wrote:Is this Simmons trade talk a true possibility or just nonsense talk since our Team is so bad that there's nothing else to talk about or kill time?

Are we really in the mix to trade for him?

I do agree with Knightro's analysis...I would expand his to include Bamba somehow.

orthoman wrote:Is this Simmons trade talk a true possibility or just nonsense talk since our Team is so bad that there's nothing else to talk about or kill time?

Are we really in the mix to trade for him?

I do agree with Knightro's analysis...I would expand his to include Bamba somehow.

orthoman wrote:Is this Simmons trade talk a true possibility or just nonsense talk since our Team is so bad that there's nothing else to talk about or kill time?

Are we really in the mix to trade for him?

I do agree with Knightro's analysis...I would expand his to include Bamba somehow.

YosemiteSam wrote:Not saying that it is based on actual team involvement, but I've decided this Chad Ford idea is a fair deal, because in the Comments to his Tweet fans of both teams absolutely hate it - that means it is totally balanced

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Edit: Also Magic Twitter REALLLY love Cole - had no idea he had this kind of support

YosemiteSam wrote:Not saying that it is based on actual team involvement, but I've decided this Chad Ford idea is a fair deal, because in the Comments to his Tweet fans of both teams absolutely hate it - that means it is totally balanced

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Edit: Also Magic Twitter REALLLY love Cole - had no idea he had this kind of support

The Effect wrote:

YosemiteSam wrote:Not saying that it is based on actual team involvement, but I've decided this Chad Ford idea is a fair deal, because in the Comments to his Tweet fans of both teams absolutely hate it - that means it is totally balanced

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Edit: Also Magic Twitter REALLLY love Cole - had no idea he had this kind of support

Most magic fans i know outside of this board love Cole

This board has just been poisoned to believe that anyone who isnt a steph curry type shooter, with Kawhi level defense and CP3 playmaking ability is a scrub who needs to be benched or traded. So many here tend to overlook impact on the court for "advanced stats" and ignore what their eyes are telling them, and thus literally hate EVERYONE, no one has ever been good enough for this board. I dont know if thats a few here bash guys like cole so much that others buy into that line of thinking, or if they are just put off by his confidence\attitude, or if they are still using pre-draft bias to continue to look for reasons to continue hating him.

There a a popular tik tok\IG meme thats going around right now of a comedian who says something along the lines of
"you ever notice when you hate someone, everything they do pisses you off, like "look at that ***** over there eating chicken, why you eating chicken *****"
I feel like thats how this board is with cole, most hate him so much from their predraft thoughts of him that he could have a game where he scores 30pts, 15 assist, 10 rebounds, shoots 15-17, and the comments in the gameday thread would still be "god i cant stand how much cole dribbles, canmt wait for him to move to the bench" or "while is cole always fighting our bigs for rebounds, that selfishness is really gonna make his teammates hate him"

mg wrote:How about G. Harris for Rubio's expiring + SRP? (Cavs currently own Houston and San Antonio's SRPs in the next draft)

tiderulz wrote:Kispert has not transitioned his shooting to the NBA. it could be a slump, or it could be he cant handle the more athletic players that he didnt face in that joke of a conference Gonzaga plays in

cedric76 wrote:I m not trading JI

drsd wrote:Question: How did Simmons and Fultz get along during The Process?