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He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

Bulls2021 wrote:He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

no refunds! this isn't walmart.

Seriously though, we love the guy bbuutttt.. 2 SRP for Vuc? We can throw some fillers for salary.

Not the best 24 hours for Vuc.

No worries, man, I will call my buddies John Hammond and Jeff Weltman tonight and we will arrange it right away.

Chicago has a lot of injured players right now.

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Bulls2021 wrote:He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

I bagged on the guy for years and want nothing to do with him. That said, there are plenty of 'basketball' fans on this board that would love him back because of his 'loyalty' and the fuzzy feeling he gives them

I wouldn't trade WCJ for Vuc straight up.

thelead wrote:

Bulls2021 wrote:He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

I bagged on the guy for years and want nothing to do with him. That said, there are plenty of 'basketball' fans on this board that would love him back because of his 'loyalty' and the fuzzy feeling he gives them

I wouldn't trade WCJ for Vuc straight up.

Ive seen both on the Bulls and I want neither on the team. WCJ absolutely sucked while on the Bulls.

Bulls2021 wrote:

thelead wrote:

Bulls2021 wrote:He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

I bagged on the guy for years and want nothing to do with him. That said, there are plenty of 'basketball' fans on this board that would love him back because of his 'loyalty' and the fuzzy feeling he gives them

I wouldn't trade WCJ for Vuc straight up.

Ive seen both on the Bulls and I want neither on the team. WCJ absolutely sucked while on the Bulls.

He was 19-20 years old and had injuries.

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Bulls2021 wrote:

thelead wrote:

Bulls2021 wrote:He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

I bagged on the guy for years and want nothing to do with him. That said, there are plenty of 'basketball' fans on this board that would love him back because of his 'loyalty' and the fuzzy feeling he gives them

I wouldn't trade WCJ for Vuc straight up.

Ive seen both on the Bulls and I want neither on the team. WCJ absolutely sucked while on the Bulls.

Kind of odd, but it looks to me that WCJ is a better PF than a C. Did not think that would be the case. I would think that the Bulls should have tried him at PF. They could use a good PF.

He’ll let you down when the games get tight if you’re relying on him for offense. I’ve watched Eric Gordon and the like shut down his post ups in the 4th quarter.

Just don’t give him the ball then. DeRozan, LaVine, Ball, Dosunmu, White and Caruso should all get shots before Vuc if the game is tight. The more he can focus on becoming a lite version of the Raptor’s Gasol the more he will help the Bulls.

thelead wrote:

Bulls2021 wrote:He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

I bagged on the guy for years and want nothing to do with him. That said, there are plenty of 'basketball' fans on this board that would love him back because of his 'loyalty' and the fuzzy feeling he gives them

I wouldn't trade WCJ for Vuc straight up.

Umm.......i would, and would think twice about it

WC is the definition of average and doesnt do anything as well as vuc does

Meh… He’ll be fine. We’ll give you Bamba if you truly want any to suffer.

The Effect wrote:Umm.......i would, and would think twice about it

WC is the definition of average and doesnt do anything as well as vuc does

Even if WCJ is a "worse" player, he does comparable stuff some nights for $50 million less and isn't going to eat up a huge usage amount like Vuc does, which was not always a good thing for our team.

I'll take him back if he returns in Bo Outlaw's current role with the team.

Beware of guys who put up numbers on bad teams and lead them no where. Vuc, while an ok player and nice guy, was pretty much empty, inflated stats. Dude was the best player where the only other two guys that could possibly take shots away from him were named Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier. You now see what he really is when surrounded by actual talent.

SOUL wrote:

The Effect wrote:Umm.......i would, and would think twice about it

WC is the definition of average and doesnt do anything as well as vuc does

Even if WCJ is a "worse" player, he does comparable stuff some nights for $50 million less and isn't going to eat up a huge usage amount like Vuc does, which was not always a good thing for our team.

Add to that Vuc is declining as a player while WCJ is still improving. Yea....I will stay with WCJ.

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SOUL wrote:

The Effect wrote:Umm.......i would, and would think twice about it

WC is the definition of average and doesnt do anything as well as vuc does

Even if WCJ is a "worse" player, he does comparable stuff some nights for $50 million less and isn't going to eat up a huge usage amount like Vuc does, which was not always a good thing for our team.

Ding ding ding. The contract and age come into play in my comment.

Bulls2021 wrote:

thelead wrote:

Bulls2021 wrote:He just played the most spineless, embarrassing half of basketball I've ever seen. This guy SUCKS. I can't believe he put up that great all-star year recently. His defense is better than expected, but good lord is his offense BAD this year. He isn't even a 3rd option on a championship team.

I bagged on the guy for years and want nothing to do with him. That said, there are plenty of 'basketball' fans on this board that would love him back because of his 'loyalty' and the fuzzy feeling he gives them

I wouldn't trade WCJ for Vuc straight up.

Ive seen both on the Bulls and I want neither on the team. WCJ absolutely sucked while on the Bulls.

WCJ makes half the money, is MUCH younger, and looks pretty good in the PF role. I’m not saying WCJ is a star but I prefer WCJ when looking at all the variables over Vuc.