Cap space/trade targets this summer?
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Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
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Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
That's my response to your friend while I hang up the phone.
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I would pencil in Jabari and start shopping immediately...we've got tons of cap, extra picks, and several young guys with promise. I wouldn't rule out trading anyone except Franz (unless it's Donovan Mitchell-level)...I think we need to sort out our PG situation between Suggs, Fultz, and Cole at the same time (while trade value is high-ish)...No reason we don't come out of the summer with two MAJOR additions (including the pick). Adding a guy with Jabari's NBA ready skills of perimeter D and shotmaking makes me a lot keener on paying (overpaying?) a young guy like Simons or Brunson or swinging a bold trade for D. Mitchell.
Fultz, TRoss, '23 frp, CHI or Den frp for D. Mitchell (alternatively Suggs, TRoss, frp for Mitchell)
Okeke for Cam Johnson (PHO ducks paying Johnson to pay Ayton) Johnson gets a lot of minutes at 2/3. SnT Bamba for ? or just keep Bamba on team-friendly deal to backup C*
*much depends on Isaac prognosis
draft filler prospects with 2rps or even try to package to move up and get best 3 & D's available
Suggs/Cole/MCW or similar
Mitchell/Cam Johnson/RJ
Franz/Johnson
Jabari/Isaac/M. Wagner
WCJ/Isaac/Bol or RoLo or similar
simpler version, draft jabari and throw money at Brunson or Simons. Move Cole or Fultz for quality depth-Kispert, Cam Johnson?
Fultz/Suggs
Brunson/Cam Johnson
Franz/Jabari
Jabari/Isaac
WCJ/Bamba
or...
Brunson/Jabari/Franz/WCJ/Isaac
I'm drinking too much coffee
Fultz, TRoss, '23 frp, CHI or Den frp for D. Mitchell (alternatively Suggs, TRoss, frp for Mitchell)
Okeke for Cam Johnson (PHO ducks paying Johnson to pay Ayton) Johnson gets a lot of minutes at 2/3. SnT Bamba for ? or just keep Bamba on team-friendly deal to backup C*
*much depends on Isaac prognosis
draft filler prospects with 2rps or even try to package to move up and get best 3 & D's available
Suggs/Cole/MCW or similar
Mitchell/Cam Johnson/RJ
Franz/Johnson
Jabari/Isaac/M. Wagner
WCJ/Isaac/Bol or RoLo or similar
simpler version, draft jabari and throw money at Brunson or Simons. Move Cole or Fultz for quality depth-Kispert, Cam Johnson?
Fultz/Suggs
Brunson/Cam Johnson
Franz/Jabari
Jabari/Isaac
WCJ/Bamba
or...
Brunson/Jabari/Franz/WCJ/Isaac
I'm drinking too much coffee
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Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
Get new friends.
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I was always a little partial to Anfernee Simons on this team. With the #1 pick and the Magic adding one of Jabari Smith or Chet Holmgren, I dig that idea even more.
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Skybox wrote:I would pencil in Jabari and start shopping immediately...we've got tons of cap, extra picks, and several young guys with promise. I wouldn't rule out trading anyone except Franz (unless it's Donovan Mitchell-level)...I think we need to sort out our PG situation between Suggs, Fultz, and Cole at the same time (while trade value is high-ish)...No reason we don't come out of the summer with two MAJOR additions (including the pick). Adding a guy with Jabari's NBA ready skills of perimeter D and shotmaking makes me a lot keener on paying (overpaying?) a young guy like Simons or Brunson or swinging a bold trade for D. Mitchell.
Fultz, TRoss, '23 frp, CHI or Den frp for D. Mitchell (alternatively Suggs, TRoss, frp for Mitchell)
Okeke for Cam Johnson (PHO ducks paying Johnson to pay Ayton) Johnson gets a lot of minutes at 2/3. SnT Bamba for ? or just keep Bamba on team-friendly deal to backup C*
*much depends on Isaac prognosis
draft filler prospects with 2rps or even try to package to move up and get best 3 & D's available
Suggs/Cole/MCW or similar
Mitchell/Cam Johnson/RJ
Franz/Johnson
Jabari/Isaac/M. Wagner
WCJ/Isaac/Bol or RoLo or similar
simpler version, draft jabari and throw money at Brunson or Simons. Move Cole or Fultz for quality depth-Kispert, Cam Johnson?
Fultz/Suggs
Brunson/Cam Johnson
Franz/Jabari
Jabari/Isaac
WCJ/Bamba
or...
Brunson/Jabari/Franz/WCJ/Isaac
I'm drinking too much coffee
SO many ways to go, it's quite unbelievable.
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Skybox wrote:I would pencil in Jabari and start shopping immediately...we've got tons of cap, extra picks, and several young guys with promise. I wouldn't rule out trading anyone except Franz (unless it's Donovan Mitchell-level)...I think we need to sort out our PG situation between Suggs, Fultz, and Cole at the same time (while trade value is high-ish)...No reason we don't come out of the summer with two MAJOR additions (including the pick). Adding a guy with Jabari's NBA ready skills of perimeter D and shotmaking makes me a lot keener on paying (overpaying?) a young guy like Simons or Brunson or swinging a bold trade for D. Mitchell
simpler version, draft jabari and throw money at Brunson or Simons. Move Cole or Fultz for quality depth-Kispert, Cam Johnson?
I'd take Cam Johnson over Kispert, don't have interest in throwing the amount of money Brunson will likely command after this playoffs run though.
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Magicman125 wrote:Skybox wrote:I would pencil in Jabari and start shopping immediately...we've got tons of cap, extra picks, and several young guys with promise. I wouldn't rule out trading anyone except Franz (unless it's Donovan Mitchell-level)...I think we need to sort out our PG situation between Suggs, Fultz, and Cole at the same time (while trade value is high-ish)...No reason we don't come out of the summer with two MAJOR additions (including the pick). Adding a guy with Jabari's NBA ready skills of perimeter D and shotmaking makes me a lot keener on paying (overpaying?) a young guy like Simons or Brunson or swinging a bold trade for D. Mitchell
simpler version, draft jabari and throw money at Brunson or Simons. Move Cole or Fultz for quality depth-Kispert, Cam Johnson?
I'd take Cam Johnson over Kispert, don't have interest in throwing the amount of money Brunson will likely command after this playoffs run though.
I would, generally speaking, too but Cam's going to get paid soon and we don't have a leading role for him, so I'm torn. I think Cam is going to be a really good player (more than 3&D we're now seeing)
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Magic with the second best odds to sign Ayton.
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Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
Let me guess your friend is a Lakers fan right? right?
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GelbeWand09 wrote:Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
Let me guess your friend is a Lakers fan right? right?
Lol ironically no he's a magic fan but a bit on the casual side in a sense that he just gets his info watching espn/whatever nonsense is shoved in your face on tv.
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Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
LOL
Ah..... brings me back to the Dwightmare-era where LA fans were forcing down our throats to trade D12 for Bynum and filler.. but this time it's even worse.
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Is there any way Golden State would give away Moses Moody?
They are clearly in super win now mode and have salary cap issues. If we absorb some salary and / or attach a future pick, would they part with him?
They are clearly in super win now mode and have salary cap issues. If we absorb some salary and / or attach a future pick, would they part with him?
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Would you give up the #1 pick for any of these players?
Lillard
Beal
Kyrie
Lillard
Beal
Kyrie
Jett Howard, Franz Wagner, Paolo Banchero, Jonathan Isaac, Wendell Carter Jr
Anthony Black, Cole Anthony, Jalen Suggs, Joe Ingles, Chuma Okeke, Mo Wagner, Goga Bitadze LESSSGOOO!!!
Anthony Black, Cole Anthony, Jalen Suggs, Joe Ingles, Chuma Okeke, Mo Wagner, Goga Bitadze LESSSGOOO!!!
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Skin wrote:Would you give up the #1 pick for any of these players?
Lillard
Beal
Kyrie
100% not. Without any hesitation not.
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MagicFan101 wrote:Is there any way Golden State would give away Moses Moody?
They are clearly in super win now mode and have salary cap issues. If we absorb some salary and / or attach a future pick, would they part with him?
I think they are grooming Poole Moodey and Kuminga to take over the big 3 they have. So don't think they wanna give up on him this early.
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Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
How did you become friends with Rob Pelinka?
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It's clear that we need to figure out the back court. We're going to have Franz, WCJ, JI, and one of Chet, Jabari (my preference), or Paolo. There is little need to worry about the front court at this point.
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Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
Westbrook turns 34 as the season starts, and is expiring. any GM that trades #1 for him needs to be fired. not only fired from his current job but not allowed to work in basketball again for at least 10 years
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Sensor wrote:Can I get some opinions here. A friend of mine feels strongly that we should trade the #1 pick to the Lakers for Westbrook and the Magic would be a fool to not make that deal. I think that's just crazy and a move that gets a gm fired. We'd obviously have to include players to make the cap side work which makes the deal even worst for us. Am I an idiot?
Your friend is an idiot. Go ask the general board if your friend knows basketball based on this and prepare to learn a lot about your friend's 'basketball knowledge'