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2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:38 pm
by Knightro
Hi everyone,

I'm going to do a poll about every player on the roster over the next few weeks leading into the draft lotto. Looking to get some general thoughts on what the Magic should do with each player moving forward.

We'll start from the guys who played the least to the guys who played the most.

First up...

Bol Bol
Age Next Season: 23
Contract Status: Restricted Free Agent
Qualifying Offer: $2,689,025
Games Played with the Magic: 0
NBA Games Played: 53
Career Stats: 2.7 PPG, 1.2 RPG, 0.3 APG, 0.1 SPG, 0.3 BPG, .478 FG%, .378 3PT%, .667 FT%


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What should the Magic do with Bol Bol?

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:52 pm
by Knightro
I would probably not extend him a qualifying offer, but I suspect the Magic will based on the fact they waived PJ Dozier on deadline day and didn't waive Bol Bol when they could have used both roster spots at the time.

My guess is that Bol will be extended the qualifying offer at $2.6M, which he will accept, and he'll slot in as a third stringer at PF.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 4:57 pm
by RichCollab
We aren’t using our money this year.

I say sign him on a 3 year contract with 3rd year team option. Bring him along slowly next year allowing him to heal. If he pans out, great. If not, let him go when needed and we didn’t lose much.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:17 pm
by Max Power
I’d release Mr. Bol entirely. We’ve got enough issues with big guys being hurt already here. I see Bol as a guy who’ll probably not make the league. I’d rather find a big man free agent who just needs a chance to prove what they can do.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:30 pm
by RookieStar
Don't we have enough longbois?

Besides.. doesn't he have locker room issues? I don't wanna mess with our reportedly great chemistry as a team.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:37 pm
by drsd
Max Power wrote:I’d release Mr. Bol entirely. We’ve got enough issues with big guys being hurt already here. I see Bol as a guy who’ll probably not make the league. I’d rather find a big man free agent who just needs a chance to prove what they can do.


And-1

Seriously, what is the difference of Bol to Stephen Zimmerman ???


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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:57 pm
by Xatticus
drsd wrote:
Max Power wrote:I’d release Mr. Bol entirely. We’ve got enough issues with big guys being hurt already here. I see Bol as a guy who’ll probably not make the league. I’d rather find a big man free agent who just needs a chance to prove what they can do.


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Seriously, what is the difference of Bol to Stephen Zimmerman ???


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Bol has talent. Zimmerman had none.

Mo Wagner, Robin Lopez, and Admiral Schofield combined to play more than 2k minutes for us, so we definitely have room for Bol. The talent is there. It's a bit concerning that he didn't get any run under Malone, but there seemed to be some issues going on there that I'm not going to bother speculating about. I'd like to see Bol on the roster for a year under Mosley to see how he gets on. If he wants to learn, Mosley can help him. He isn't all that young though, so I'd need to see some legitimate progress to keep him around beyond next season. He needs to be healthy for that to happen.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:25 pm
by Skin
drsd wrote:
Max Power wrote:I’d release Mr. Bol entirely. We’ve got enough issues with big guys being hurt already here. I see Bol as a guy who’ll probably not make the league. I’d rather find a big man free agent who just needs a chance to prove what they can do.


And-1

Seriously, what is the difference of Bol to Stephen Zimmerman ???


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At Oregon, Bol Bol averaged 21 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 2.7 bpg, .757 FT%, .520 3P% on 2.8 attempts/gm... Closer to Chet than Zimmerman.

Resign him for depth and see what he can do if he can get healthy.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:08 pm
by orthoman
We have a chance at being very good in a few years....we do not need players with no motor and locker room issues.

I really liked Khem Birch. Why can't we go after him as a backup. Great energy, leadership, and work ethic.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:45 pm
by The Effect
hes young enough and talented enough to give a shot to on a very low level deal.

QO seems fine to me, take a shot at 1/2.5 to see if he got anything worth keep around, and if not, no biggie let him go
But we traded for him injured and he hasnt played a second for us, no point trading for him, keeping him around and then letting him go for such a little amount

I wouldnt go into next season with any expectations from him past 10th-15th guy on the roster, and anything above that would be a pleasant surprise

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:59 pm
by basketballRob
We've seen players like MPJ and Embiid play well after sitting multiple years at the beginning of their careers. Hopefully, Bol is the next one.

He does seem to have some off the court immaturity issues tho.

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Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:51 am
by Blue_and_Whte
This would be the ideal situation for him to prove his doubters wrong, why not with us? QO seems fine to me.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:25 am
by Skybox
Are injuries his issue or just that he's not that good?

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:02 pm
by Xatticus
Skybox wrote:Are injuries his issue or just that he's not that good?


That's an interesting question...

He has scarcely played during his first three years in the league. He was traded to Detroit less than a month before he was traded to Orlando. That fell through when he failed his physical and he had surgery shortly thereafter. Denver claimed that they were unaware of his foot issue, which is odd.

He is going to be polarizing for the same reasons that Bamba is. His numbers haven't been good so far, but the sample size is microscopic. Bol is more talented than Bamba at the offensive end. The skill sets aren't that different, but Bol can do some things with the ball in his hands and he has a post game. At the defensive end, however, he is less of a conventional center than is Bamba and their deficiencies are fairly similar, so he will probably be best suited to sharing the floor with another big.

I'd assume he is going to be on the roster next year, though we aren't married to him either. He might be a like-for-like replacement for Bamba. I think it is worthwhile to have a look at him simply because we have Mosley and because Bol has a tantalizing combination of tools and skills.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:06 pm
by pepe1991
Skybox wrote:Are injuries his issue or just that he's not that good?


Probably both.

He was monster at college because his combination of size was issue for smaller guards, and his mobility made him unique ( unicorn?) so bigs had issues keeping up with him.

But in nba he has no position. He is jumpshooter without any post moves , without inside presence. basically even worst Bamba.

And ofc injuries prevent him from improving or having any consistancy.

He played 320 min in nba and 160 min in G league.
IN last 3 years.

For comparison sake, everybody complained about Hezonja not playing enough ( 1400 min as rookie) or Gordon due injuries ( 800 min).

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:06 pm
by Skybox
I have no enthusiasm for Bol but I suppose his upside gets him the 15th slot over Iggy, Cannady and the other feel-good stories that really don't belong there on a team with winning aspirations.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:03 pm
by pepe1991
Skybox wrote:I have no enthusiasm for Bol but I suppose his upside gets him the 15th slot over Iggy, Cannady and the other feel-good stories that really don't belong there on a team with winning aspirations.



Watch on YouTube


This video puts lot of context of Bol, really nice backstory but also... pointing out Bol doesn't really like basketball all that much and everybody near him questioned his work ethic and desire to play sport in general.

And as for playing, he tends to make stupid errors, mentally isn't locked, on offense likes to take awful shot ( tunnel vision ) , on defense he lacks strenght but again, mental errors are worst.

Look videos toward end of a video to see why he never played ( real reasons why he never played)

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:42 pm
by Optimus_Steel
Who?

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:02 pm
by FFBlitzace
He has skills at his size that make you raise your eyebrows. But to say that it has only been flashes would be an understatement. Plus the injury concern and whatever the intangible concerns exist too. He's worth much more as a "free look" than other scrubs our front office has had an infatuation with over the last couple years, but that's all it is, just a free look with no expectations.

Re: 2021-2022 Post-Mortem: Bol Bol

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:56 pm
by AdamTheGreek
drsd wrote:
Max Power wrote:I’d release Mr. Bol entirely. We’ve got enough issues with big guys being hurt already here. I see Bol as a guy who’ll probably not make the league. I’d rather find a big man free agent who just needs a chance to prove what they can do.


And-1

Seriously, what is the difference of Bol to Stephen Zimmerman ???


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Well, one was a stiff center with one hand and the other is a really tall/lanky perimeter player who can potentially hit 3s.

I was really surprised Bol didn’t play. And since he wasn’t waived like Dozier, I can only assume he’s back with us next season. I’m fine with the qualifying offer. I’d really like to make him a 2-way, but I doubt Bol would accept that.