poll: With the Fifth pick, Orlando selects ....

[GelbeWand09]

I cant understand the fascination of many on this board for one trick pony shooters? There is a reason Robinson dont play or why Malik Beasley's minutes were cut in the playoffs. I could understand when you call for 3&D players but all the talk about the Kispert's, Robinson's & co's is way beyond me. All those guys (Duncan, Pritchard, Bertans, Nesmith, Shamet, Korkmaz, Beasley...) are bench players & too bad on defense to get big minutes when games count.
You need switchable 3&D players not the Joe Harris's of this world.

[zaymon]

I cant understand the fascination of many on this board for one trick pony shooters? There is a reason Robinson dont play or why Malik Beasley's minutes were cut in the playoffs. I could understand when you call for 3&D players but all the talk about the Kispert's, Robinson's & co's is way beyond me. All those guys (Duncan, Pritchard, Bertans, Nesmith, Shamet, Korkmaz, Beasley...) are bench players & too bad on defense to get big minutes when games count.
You need switchable 3&D players not the Joe Harris's of this world.

While i agree about the idea, Joe Harris is not the best exemple. Yes he could be more athletic but he is 6'6 and quite strong. Look at Max Strus, Grayson Allen or even high end versions of Thompson, Booker. This archetype is important starter for a contender. You need to meet athletic treshold.
Malik Beasley is too thin, Robinson is too unathletic.

[GelbeWand09]

I cant understand the fascination of many on this board for one trick pony shooters? There is a reason Robinson dont play or why Malik Beasley's minutes were cut in the playoffs. I could understand when you call for 3&D players but all the talk about the Kispert's, Robinson's & co's is way beyond me. All those guys (Duncan, Pritchard, Bertans, Nesmith, Shamet, Korkmaz, Beasley...) are bench players & too bad on defense to get big minutes when games count.
You need switchable 3&D players not the Joe Harris's of this world.

While i agree about the idea, Joe Harris is not the best exemple. Yes he could be more athletic but he is 6'6 and quite strong. Look at Max Strus, Grayson Allen or even high end versions of Thompson, Booker. This archetype is important starter for a contender. You need to meet athletic treshold.
Malik Beasley is too thin, Robinson is too unathletic.

Yea Harris is probably the best case but I would still take any real 3&D player over him. I mean I wouldn't be against Duncan on a good contract because unlike a guy like Kispert he is not just a good set shooter. He is a great off balance shooter. But that contract was poison from day 1 for his limited skill set.

I don't even know we're Robinson should start for us. Instead of Franz at SF or instead of Suggs at SG?
Ideally probably next to Fultz but than you sit your 5th pick for him in a rebuilding situation. You can't start him next to Suggs because Jalen needs a second ballhandler next to him til he improves handles.

[AdamTheGreek]

First off, **** Miami. We’re not bailing them out of that Robinson contract.

If we fall to 5 or 6, and we don’t trade up or include this pick in a deal to get an alpha scorer , Sharpe will be the pick because expectations will be a lot lower and you can take a swing.
WeltHamm love blue chip high school players, and you can’t do better than the #1 high school product of this class.
I hope he gets measured officially because 6’6” with a 7-foot wingspan, plus if he breaks that combine vertical jump record, plus the shooting and ball handling he’s displayed, who interviews fine, and it’s difficult to pass that up.

I don’t think Sharpe will be available 5, I think he goes 4th. So then I’m hoping we end up with one of Jabari, Paolo, or Ivey.

Also, ‘Shaedon Sharpe’ is a perfect Paul Porter PA name. Like perfect.

[zaymon]

Terrence Ross is our version of Duncan Robinson. Similar strengths and weaknesses. Spark plug of the bench. We can start most people next to Suggs becouse we have Franz who will only get better as ball handler and WCJ who is above average playmaker.

I can sceptical of Sharpe. What we dont need is another low iq athlete. His path towards NBA doesnt scream competitor. Its very suspicious.

[basketballRob]

Terrence Ross is our version of Duncan Robinson. Similar strengths and weaknesses. Spark plug of the bench. We can start most people next to Suggs becouse we have Franz who will only get better as ball handler and WCJ who is above average playmaker.

I can sceptical of Sharpe. What we dont need is another low iq athlete. His path towards NBA doesnt scream competitor. Its very suspicious.

Why do you think he has a low IQ?

Pretty obvious that Sharpe will be very good in the NBA.

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[Skybox]

Terrence Ross is our version of Duncan Robinson. Similar strengths and weaknesses. Spark plug of the bench. We can start most people next to Suggs becouse we have Franz who will only get better as ball handler and WCJ who is above average playmaker.

I can sceptical of Sharpe. What we dont need is another low iq athlete. His path towards NBA doesnt scream competitor. Its very suspicious.

TRoss doesn't want to play (at least for ORL) anymore...He should be our starter and leading scorer, but he doesn't care. This is why Sharpe scares me...I don't know anything about Sharpe, but measurables and empty gym talent clearly don't make a good player. I'm not labeling Sharpe, I'm just scared to death of the uncertainty...if he interviewed as well as Chet or Ivey, I'd have more confidence. I just hope Weltman can psychoanalyze the reality of him before we set ourselves back for another few years with a wasted pick...I'm kind of rooting for TRoss to wake up and realize how good he could be on this team...with an unlimited green light and all the PT he wants.

[basketballRob]

Terrence Ross is our version of Duncan Robinson. Similar strengths and weaknesses. Spark plug of the bench. We can start most people next to Suggs becouse we have Franz who will only get better as ball handler and WCJ who is above average playmaker.

I can sceptical of Sharpe. What we dont need is another low iq athlete. His path towards NBA doesnt scream competitor. Its very suspicious.

TRoss doesn't want to play (at least for ORL) anymore...He should be our starter and leading scorer, but he doesn't care. This is why Sharpe scares me...I don't know anything about Sharpe, but measurables and empty gym talent clearly don't make a good player. I'm not labeling Sharpe, I'm just scared to death of the uncertainty...if he interviewed as well as Chet or Ivey, I'd have more confidence. I just hope Weltman can psychoanalyze the reality of him before we set ourselves back for another few years with a wasted pick...I'm kind of rooting for TRoss to wake up and realize how good he could be on this team...with an unlimited green light and all the PT he wants.

Chet and Ivey scare me more than Sharpe, because of Chet's thin frame and Ivey's lack of mid-range/pull-up.

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[zaymon]

Terrence Ross is our version of Duncan Robinson. Similar strengths and weaknesses. Spark plug of the bench. We can start most people next to Suggs becouse we have Franz who will only get better as ball handler and WCJ who is above average playmaker.

I can sceptical of Sharpe. What we dont need is another low iq athlete. His path towards NBA doesnt scream competitor. Its very suspicious.

TRoss doesn't want to play (at least for ORL) anymore...He should be our starter and leading scorer, but he doesn't care. This is why Sharpe scares me...I don't know anything about Sharpe, but measurables and empty gym talent clearly don't make a good player. I'm not labeling Sharpe, I'm just scared to death of the uncertainty...if he interviewed as well as Chet or Ivey, I'd have more confidence. I just hope Weltman can psychoanalyze the reality of him before we set ourselves back for another few years with a wasted pick...I'm kind of rooting for TRoss to wake up and realize how good he could be on this team...with an unlimited green light and all the PT he wants.

I dont know if Sharpe is low iq, but there is a track record of athletic marvels who grew up earlier than their counterparts. If i was a brilliant teamplayer i wouldnt do everything to not play a single game in structured environment.
One of the biggest problems i have with Weltman is that he overvalues smooth talkers. Bamba and Anthony are combination of physical tools and comedy skills rather than functional athletecism and basketball processing.
TRoss is what he is, there is no waking up for him. He should be traded at all costs, even for a second round pick.

[BadMofoPimp]

I think the Magic should trade their pick and Suggs plus filler to move up to Number 1 and select Jabari if at all possible. This team could use a great PF. A Wendel/Jabari front court could be devestating with Slim coming off the bench.

[drsd]

I think the Magic should trade their pick and Suggs plus filler to move up to Number 1 and select Jabari if at all possible. This team could use a great PF. A Wendel/Jabari front court could be devestating with Slim coming off the bench.

I assume you believe that Fultz is the future at PG. And if so, and the goal is to get a long-bomber at SG, then I wonder why you would trade so much for a backup player. Smith will not start over Carter, Isaac, and F-Wagner. And if you see him as a starter from the sophmore season on, then you also need to trade Isaac or F-Wagner based on your plan.

So: do you trade Isaac or F-Wagner to create a roster slot for an unproven rookie?

p.s. all of this assumes the Magic land at around 5. But for me I think about the reverse. That is, if Orlando wins the lottery, or the #2 pick, what trade-down offers are there? If a team in the 4 or 5 slot offer that pick plus a future first, that would be a great trade for Orlando. No Smith, but Murray, Davis, or Mathurin and a future first is a better asset hall for me than Smith. Smith is my favorite PF in this draft, as I type that.



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[DiplomaticMagic]

Sharpe could be a complete bust, but if we fall in lottery, I'm taking the swing and taking him.

[Message Boar]

Shut it down baby! Let's goooo