poll: With the Fifth pick, Orlando selects ....

[RichCollab]

Sharpe is off the board before the 5th pick. Ivey or Paolo will be available.

[RookieStar]

TMac couldn't make a complete sentence when he was 19. To his credit he enrolled at Rollins College and worked at it.

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Eeeerrr what? Well first off, speech empidement isnt really the same as dumb. Second, is it because of interviews or in RL that he can' t make an entire sentence? Third, it wasn't a gamble that we signed him because he played in the league and we sqw what he could do

Us watching Sharpe play won't have anything to do with where he gets picked. Teams will work him out and make a decision. If he has a great pro day he might start getting mocked in the top 3.

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Huh? Werent you just talking about Tmac?

[The Effect]

For me it would be tough call between Mathurin or Sharpe

I really believe that those 2 could be the 2 best players from this draft in 5 years. I see alot of Anthony Edwards in Mathurins games and think i would side with him

[The Effect]

Sharpe is off the board before the 5th pick. Ivey or Paolo will be available.

If i was a betting man, i would put alot of money on Ivey going before Sharpe
Cant see a team passing on the much more proven player with equally high upside

It wouldnt surprise me if sharpe is better in the long run, but a GM whos job is on the line is likely to want the more established prospect

[davey_wavy]

Who cares…

Lose all year, pick 5th.. IDGAF who we select at that spot, re-draft Andrew Nicholson for all I care. It’s a top 4 pick or I don’t want it

[basketballRob]

Eeeerrr what? Well first off, speech empidement isnt really the same as dumb. Second, is it because of interviews or in RL that he can' t make an entire sentence? Third, it wasn't a gamble that we signed him because he played in the league and we sqw what he could do

Us watching Sharpe play won't have anything to do with where he gets picked. Teams will work him out and make a decision. If he has a great pro day he might start getting mocked in the top 3.

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Huh? Werent you just talking about Tmac?

Your argument is he's stupid or could be and we haven't seen him play. Those points likely won't have anything to do with where he's picked. He seems like he's handling things okay and he plays under control on the court. I've heard he plays well with anyone because he doesn't have to have the ball.

My point with TMac was like most teenagers aren't polished and mature. As far as proven, if we were allowed to select high school kids they would be picked in the top 5 every year.



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[RookieStar]

Us watching Sharpe play won't have anything to do with where he gets picked. Teams will work him out and make a decision. If he has a great pro day he might start getting mocked in the top 3.

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Huh? Werent you just talking about Tmac?

Your argument is he's stupid or could be and we haven't seen him play. Those points likely won't have anything to do with where he's picked. He seems like he's handling things okay and he plays under control on the court. I've heard he plays well with anyone because he doesn't have to have the ball.

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Stupid/slow mentally like what you allude Tmac was? Nope im talking about bbiq like how Javale having all the tools yet just cant grasp the concept of being atbthe right place and at the right time during plays. OR being someone easily led like that UK player or Shabaz who had talent yet listened to all the wrong advice of their dads and etc.

And yeah I heard he plays ok/good as well in workouts. No idea about proper 5 on 5 games that isnt above YMCA level against proper competition

[MasterGMer]

I voted for Murray and I think the fans want Sharpie, but the FO will select Murray.

As long as it is not AJ Griffin, i am good

[zaymon]

I don't know what to do with this. Eason has a better handle than Sochan. He is much more athletic than Sochan as well. Frankly, Sochan is a hustle guy that lacks skills. Eason is raw, but he has skills. His shot looks worse, but the results were much better.

I think Sochan is benefiting from a Baylor bounce and his age. I don't see the upside.

Eason has no left hand, an ugly shot, and has a lot of room to improve his finishing, but his numbers are phenomenal within that context.

I would argue with ball handling. Eason is better going to his right but Sochan is more versatile. There is no big difference one way or the other and Sochan is 2 years younger.
What you mean about skills ? Sochan is much better decision maker and passer. I highy doubt any of them will become a scorer at nba lvl. Its a wash.
19 y.o Eason 7.3pts, 5.9 rb, 1.3 ast/ 2.2 tov, 1.2 stl, 1.3 blk, 51,7 2p%, 24,1 3p%, 57,4 ft%
18 y.o Sochan 9.3 pts, 6.4 rb, 1.8 ast/1.6 tov, 1.3 stl, 0,7 blk, 58,5 2p%, 29,6 3p%, 58,9 ft%,

I mean what is his special skill? Defensive versatility? Physicality? That's it.

It's very easy to see with Eason. He had fantastic block and steal rates. He is a plus athlete. He had a very high usage, on very good efficiency, with a very good FTr, and he hit 80% of his free throws. That combination is money.

I get why one might like Sochan. He should have a role in the NBA for a long time. I don't see the upside. I don't see why you would take him over Eason. Eason projects to be very good defensively as well, but there is a lot more to buy than that. I can't fathom how you can state that you would take Sochan at four over Ivey. Is that hyperbole? There are going to be some very good defensive specialists that won't get drafted in the first round.

I think the skills Sochan has will shine in modern nba even if they are less broad than Tari. Yes Eason is best scorer right now, but who will give him the ball in the nba with such low ball security and bad decision making ? He doesnt clear the bar in my eyes for scoring (not even close) and most of his skills will remain suppressed for the prosperity of his future team. First association i have is Kelly Oubre jr which some people here love. Great athlete, good scorer, much better than Eason. Do you want him to handle the ball ? No if you are a serious team like Golden State. Same with Tari Eason, he has many skills which wont work in the nba and could even hinder his team if he insists on using them.
Sochan is bigger, he could really play center in the future while Eason propably cant. While being bigger he also has quick feet which will help in switching scheme whichever position he plays. His passing and decision making will allow him to be a part of fast, smart, modern offesne unlike Eason. Sochan 3 point shot volume also points that he could be capable shooter in time, he is not afraid.
I was high on Sochan when he was mocked outside lottery. Now he is mocked at 8 on bleacher report for exemple.
Last year i was very high on Wagner before he was mocked in the lottery, and i had him in my top 8.
In short i think while Eason has more broader skill set he will be used in more limited role in the nba than Sochan.

[drsd]

Interesting opinion. Let's flesh this out... say Isaac doesn't return to form, Suggs continues to look like a bust, and they draft someone like Murray and he becomes a bust (not a quality starter).... you don't think it will cost them their jobs?

Well: you are stating "if these three things happen". I guess I am arguing that WeHamm is under more threat than that.

Orlando needs to make it to the second round of the 2023/24 playoffs. Short of that and I believe ownership will move on from management.

Which is why I think this draft is almost irrelevant. Orlando has a number of assets, and this pick will only be "just one more". At some point these need to be assembled and shuffled in to a winning team.

What I like about Sharpe is that his game is compatible with either Fultz or Suggs (whichever one wins the full time PG starting slot). Personally I think a team should always draft a player with the highest upside (which is why Hezonja was not a bad pick when it was used).

And as a final thought, I don't care if WeHamm's job is safe. My "job" is to be a fan; and fans want wins. Just Win!

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[drsd]

Sharpe is off the board before the 5th pick. Ivey or Paolo will be available.

That is a bold prediction and is kind of a repeat of the 2021 draft when Suggs was available at #5.

I guess the point, which I agree, it is not "certain" who the top-4 will be.


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[drsd]

Reflecting on the poll, the most interesting observation is Davis with zero votes. Many "experts" mock him as Mr. #5. And here we are semi-educated fans with universal disinterest in him as a BPA at 5.

[cedric76]

Interesting opinion. Let's flesh this out... say Isaac doesn't return to form, Suggs continues to look like a bust, and they draft someone like Murray and he becomes a bust (not a quality starter).... you don't think it will cost them their jobs?

Well: you are stating "if these three things happen". I guess I am arguing that WeHamm is under more threat than that.

Orlando needs to make it to the second round of the 2023/24 playoffs. Short of that and I believe ownership will move on from management.

Which is why I think this draft is almost irrelevant. Orlando has a number of assets, and this pick will only be "just one more". At some point these need to be assembled and shuffled in to a winning team.

What I like about Sharpe is that his game is compatible with either Fultz or Suggs (whichever one wins the full time PG starting slot). Personally I think a team should always draft a player with the highest upside (which is why Hezonja was not a bad pick when it was used).

And as a final thought, I don't care if WeHamm's job is safe. My "job" is to be a fan; and fans want wins. Just Win!

..

People keep saying to draft BPA, but as we can see here, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if Weham think that Sharpe is the BPA, they draft him, no matter what journalists (wannabee NBA experts) say.

And if the BPA fits our needs, it s even better.

What are our needs?

Someone with the potential to be a star
Someone who can hit the 3
Someone who can score
Someone who can attack the basket
Someone who can defend
Someone who can create their own shots

On paper sharpe tick all the Boxes and on top of that he fits our team perfectly as we desperately need a legit 2

Fultz,suggs,cole
Sharpe,suggs,cole
Franz,Chuma
JI,WCJ,Chuma,moritz,bolbol
WCJ,JI,MO,ROLO


This team is very solid and full of potential

and you still have assets like Ross, RJ and our 2nd to play around

[RookieStar]

Interesting opinion. Let's flesh this out... say Isaac doesn't return to form, Suggs continues to look like a bust, and they draft someone like Murray and he becomes a bust (not a quality starter).... you don't think it will cost them their jobs?

Well: you are stating "if these three things happen". I guess I am arguing that WeHamm is under more threat than that.

Orlando needs to make it to the second round of the 2023/24 playoffs. Short of that and I believe ownership will move on from management.

Which is why I think this draft is almost irrelevant. Orlando has a number of assets, and this pick will only be "just one more". At some point these need to be assembled and shuffled in to a winning team.

What I like about Sharpe is that his game is compatible with either Fultz or Suggs (whichever one wins the full time PG starting slot). Personally I think a team should always draft a player with the highest upside (which is why Hezonja was not a bad pick when it was used).

And as a final thought, I don't care if WeHamm's job is safe. My "job" is to be a fan; and fans want wins. Just Win!

..

People keep saying to draft BPA, but as we can see here, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if Weham think that Sharpe is the BPA, they draft him, no matter what journalists (wannabee NBA experts) say.

And if the BPA fits our needs, it s even better.

What are our needs?

Someone with the potential to be a star
Someone who can hit the 3
Someone who can score
Someone who can attack the basket
Someone who can defend
Someone who can create their own shots

On paper sharpe tick all the Boxes and on top of that he fits our team perfectly as we desperately need a legit 2

Fultz,suggs,cole
Sharpe,suggs,cole
Franz,Chuma
JI,WCJ,Chuma,moritz,bolbol
WCJ,JI,MO,ROLO


This team is very solid and full of potential

and you still have assets like Ross, RJ and our 2nd to play around

How can you say that Sharpe fits all that though? Isnt that the point of our arguemnets that we haven't actually seen Sharpe do all those things?

[basketballRob]

Well: you are stating "if these three things happen". I guess I am arguing that WeHamm is under more threat than that.

Orlando needs to make it to the second round of the 2023/24 playoffs. Short of that and I believe ownership will move on from management.

Which is why I think this draft is almost irrelevant. Orlando has a number of assets, and this pick will only be "just one more". At some point these need to be assembled and shuffled in to a winning team.

What I like about Sharpe is that his game is compatible with either Fultz or Suggs (whichever one wins the full time PG starting slot). Personally I think a team should always draft a player with the highest upside (which is why Hezonja was not a bad pick when it was used).

And as a final thought, I don't care if WeHamm's job is safe. My "job" is to be a fan; and fans want wins. Just Win!

..

People keep saying to draft BPA, but as we can see here, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if Weham think that Sharpe is the BPA, they draft him, no matter what journalists (wannabee NBA experts) say.

And if the BPA fits our needs, it s even better.

What are our needs?

Someone with the potential to be a star
Someone who can hit the 3
Someone who can score
Someone who can attack the basket
Someone who can defend
Someone who can create their own shots

On paper sharpe tick all the Boxes and on top of that he fits our team perfectly as we desperately need a legit 2

Fultz,suggs,cole
Sharpe,suggs,cole
Franz,Chuma
JI,WCJ,Chuma,moritz,bolbol
WCJ,JI,MO,ROLO


This team is very solid and full of potential

and you still have assets like Ross, RJ and our 2nd to play around

How can you say that Sharpe fits all that though? Isnt that the point of our arguemnets that we haven't actually seen Sharpe do all those things?

He has the size to fill the void we're missing.

The research I've done on Ivey says that he might be 6'2.5" w/o shoes and 6'7" wingspan, so basically Suggs size. He also can't shoot that well like Suggs. Suggs looks like he's more if a PG than Ivey.

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[RookieStar]

People keep saying to draft BPA, but as we can see here, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if Weham think that Sharpe is the BPA, they draft him, no matter what journalists (wannabee NBA experts) say.

And if the BPA fits our needs, it s even better.

What are our needs?

Someone with the potential to be a star
Someone who can hit the 3
Someone who can score
Someone who can attack the basket
Someone who can defend
Someone who can create their own shots

On paper sharpe tick all the Boxes and on top of that he fits our team perfectly as we desperately need a legit 2

Fultz,suggs,cole
Sharpe,suggs,cole
Franz,Chuma
JI,WCJ,Chuma,moritz,bolbol
WCJ,JI,MO,ROLO


This team is very solid and full of potential

and you still have assets like Ross, RJ and our 2nd to play around

How can you say that Sharpe fits all that though? Isnt that the point of our arguemnets that we haven't actually seen Sharpe do all those things?

He has the size to fill the void we're missing.

The research I've done on Ivey says that he might be 6'2.5" w/o shoes and 6'7" wingspan, so basically Suggs size. He also can't shoot that well like Suggs. Suggs looks like he's more if a PG than Ivey.

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Im getting confused... why is Ivey in this convo? What is this size you are talking about? Did you misquote us cuz your post is out of our topic.

[RichCollab]

Reflecting on the poll, the most interesting observation is Davis with zero votes. Many "experts" mock him as Mr. #5. And here we are semi-educated fans with universal disinterest in him as a BPA at 5.

I put Sharpe top 3 with a 5% chance going 1. He has a chance to be a superstar or a dud but you win championships with superstars and to get a shot at one you take it.

[cedric76]

Well: you are stating "if these three things happen". I guess I am arguing that WeHamm is under more threat than that.

Orlando needs to make it to the second round of the 2023/24 playoffs. Short of that and I believe ownership will move on from management.

Which is why I think this draft is almost irrelevant. Orlando has a number of assets, and this pick will only be "just one more". At some point these need to be assembled and shuffled in to a winning team.

What I like about Sharpe is that his game is compatible with either Fultz or Suggs (whichever one wins the full time PG starting slot). Personally I think a team should always draft a player with the highest upside (which is why Hezonja was not a bad pick when it was used).

And as a final thought, I don't care if WeHamm's job is safe. My "job" is to be a fan; and fans want wins. Just Win!

..

People keep saying to draft BPA, but as we can see here, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if Weham think that Sharpe is the BPA, they draft him, no matter what journalists (wannabee NBA experts) say.

And if the BPA fits our needs, it s even better.

What are our needs?

Someone with the potential to be a star
Someone who can hit the 3
Someone who can score
Someone who can attack the basket
Someone who can defend
Someone who can create their own shots

On paper sharpe tick all the Boxes and on top of that he fits our team perfectly as we desperately need a legit 2

Fultz,suggs,cole
Sharpe,suggs,cole
Franz,Chuma
JI,WCJ,Chuma,moritz,bolbol
WCJ,JI,MO,ROLO


This team is very solid and full of potential

and you still have assets like Ross, RJ and our 2nd to play around

How can you say that Sharpe fits all that though? Isnt that the point of our arguemnets that we haven't actually seen Sharpe do all those things?

I said "ON PAPER"

#Someone with the potential to be a star
He has the potential, will he reach it? god knows
#Someone who can hit the 3
He showed he can hit 3, he has a smooth stroke, will he be able to do that in the NBA, we ll soon find out
#Someone who can score
He has the potential to be a 3 level scorer, will he be able to do that in NBA, we ll soon find out
#Someone who can attack the basket
He does that thx to his athletic abilities, will he be able to do that against NBA players, we ll soon find out
#Someone who can defend
He has the measurements to defend multiple positions, but will he have the heart to do so on a nightly basis?
#Someone who can create their own shots
He does against kids, will he be able to do that against men? We ll soon find out

[basketballRob]

How can you say that Sharpe fits all that though? Isnt that the point of our arguemnets that we haven't actually seen Sharpe do all those things?

He has the size to fill the void we're missing.

The research I've done on Ivey says that he might be 6'2.5" w/o shoes and 6'7" wingspan, so basically Suggs size. He also can't shoot that well like Suggs. Suggs looks like he's more if a PG than Ivey.

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Im getting confused... why is Ivey in this convo? What is this size you are talking about? Did you misquote us cuz your post is out of our topic.

Everyone seems to want Ivey over Sharpe but he seems to be redundant to what we have. Sharpe's size seems to be what we're lacking at guard. Also, Sharpe has a smoother game and is a better shooter.

I mentioned Sharpe's size and then I compared it to Ivey's.

To get back on topic, I do like Ivey at 5 assuming Sharpe is already gone.

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[RookieStar]

People keep saying to draft BPA, but as we can see here, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if Weham think that Sharpe is the BPA, they draft him, no matter what journalists (wannabee NBA experts) say.

And if the BPA fits our needs, it s even better.

What are our needs?

Someone with the potential to be a star
Someone who can hit the 3
Someone who can score
Someone who can attack the basket
Someone who can defend
Someone who can create their own shots

On paper sharpe tick all the Boxes and on top of that he fits our team perfectly as we desperately need a legit 2

Fultz,suggs,cole
Sharpe,suggs,cole
Franz,Chuma
JI,WCJ,Chuma,moritz,bolbol
WCJ,JI,MO,ROLO


This team is very solid and full of potential

and you still have assets like Ross, RJ and our 2nd to play around

How can you say that Sharpe fits all that though? Isnt that the point of our arguemnets that we haven't actually seen Sharpe do all those things?

I said "ON PAPER"

#Someone with the potential to be a star
He has the potential, will he reach it? god knows
#Someone who can hit the 3
He showed he can hit 3, he has a smooth stroke, will he be able to do that in the NBA, we ll soon find out
#Someone who can score
He has the potential to be a 3 level scorer, will he be able to do that in NBA, we ll soon find out
#Someone who can attack the basket
He does that thx to his athletic abilities, will he be able to do that against NBA players, we ll soon find out
#Someone who can defend
He has the measurements to defend multiple positions, but will he have the heart to do so on a nightly basis?
#Someone who can create their own shots
He does against kids, will he be able to do that against men? We ll soon find out

Oh yeah right. Well I dunno who wrote that paper though.. probably his mom or agent because everyone else hasn't seen it. But yeah, the THOUGHT of Sharpe and the talks on what he supposedly can do certainly checks the paper to a tee.