Cole Anthony Starting?

[Skin]

Both Suggs and Anthony are role players. In order to become a true contender, neither Suggs or Cole are good enough to be starters.

[Xatticus]

You are way off the mark here. RAPTOR utilizes RAPM for the on/off , which does all the things you are claiming it doesn't do. The plus/minus component doesn't carry much weight either. If your measure for a statistical metric is how closely it aligns with your own preconceived ideas, then I don't know what to tell you.

For the record I'm not really a huge fan of either Cole or Suggs, I am more of a Markelle guy.

I just wanted to reply to an argument that uses RAPTOR to say that Suggs is better than Cole and that winshares is flawed because it weights defensive rebounds disproportionately. Suggs is also guilty of stealing rebounds and I was pointing out the flaw in using RAPTOR without any context.

RAPTOR utilizes RAPM for the on/off , which does all the things you are claiming it doesn't do.

Please elaborate, if you would

https://basketballstat.home.blog/2019/08/14/regularized-adjusted-plus-minus-rapm/

Generally speaking, the metrics you find on basketball-reference aren't particularly useful because they rely on box score stats, which are obviously very limited.