Draft Trade down options and hypotheticals

[Bensational]

Since it seems like everyone has settled into some form of preference for the #1 pick between Chet, Jabari and Paolo, but some still don’t seem enamoured with the top 3.

If the Magic traded out of #1, who would people like to see targeted? What would be the minimum return you’d want in exchange for the pick? How far back would you be prepared to trade down?

For me, guys like Keegan Murray, Nikola Jovic, Dyson Daniels, Duren, Walker, Williams and Agbagi stand out as interesting names. I’m sure others have Ivey and Sharpe high on their boards, too. Would two of those players plus a future pick be enough value to give up Chet/Jabari/Paolo? Would teams pay that price?

The possibility of a deal happening is slim because our management isn’t usually that bold, but it’s still fun to discuss as armchair GMs.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Taking 2&12 from OKC giving up 1&32.

Taking who falls at 2 and then at 12 it’s Duren, Mark Williams, Branham, Mathurin

[BDill012]

Taking 2&12 from OKC giving up 1&32.

Taking who falls at 2 and then at 12 it’s Duren, Mark Williams, Branham, Mathurin

I'd consider trading down a second time with Sacramento and taking Murray and acquiring more picks or maybe a veteran if there was one that fit what we need.

I really like Keegan Murray.

[basketballRob]

Taking 2&12 from OKC giving up 1&32.

Taking who falls at 2 and then at 12 it’s Duren, Mark Williams, Branham, Mathurin

I think OKC is hot for Jabari and may offer the 2 and 12. I still like Johnny Davis if he fell.

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[Skybox]

I'd do the OKC thing proposed (2 & 12) but I don't see them doing it. I don't like anyone on HOU, DET, or SAC to trade down for.

Otherwise, I'd be looking for a young star to even consider it...I really don't want to hear about future picks anymore. If I was in OKC, I'd jump off a bridge. Guys like Jaylen Brown, Donovan Mitchell, SGA, maybe Ingram...none of these would be simple or even likely, but our cap space might make something do-able. I don't see it happening, maybe the OKC version if they are concerned we are entertaining other offers and will pay to get their guy.

[ucfmay2000]

Taking 2&12 from OKC giving up 1&32.

Taking who falls at 2 and then at 12 it’s Duren, Mark Williams, Branham, Mathurin

Why OKC has to do that? They don’t need to move up to 1. They will draft whoever available at “2”. They will be happy with either Chet or Smith.

[JBSouthpaw]

You see how bad OKC wants it.
2 &12 plus a future 1st pick, at least 1, even far out. OKC has a plethora.

[jezzerinho]

A trade down for other draft assets doesn't make sense to me or really chime with WeltHam, unless we want Banchero anyway and so it's all upside to drop a spot or two.

A trade down where we get a vet asset is another story. I don't see it personally, but i think it's at least more likely than moving off 1 for more picks.

[zaymon]

I think Banchero is the only real prize in the draft so i wouldnt trade down unless OKC guaranteed the pick Holmgren or Smith. With 12 i would try to trade up for Sochan.

[tiderulz]

You see how bad OKC wants it.
2 &12 plus a future 1st pick, at least 1, even far out. OKC has a plethora.

That’s the problem, I don’t see okc wanting it so bad. No way they do any of that to move up 1

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Taking 2&12 from OKC giving up 1&32.

Taking who falls at 2 and then at 12 it’s Duren, Mark Williams, Branham, Mathurin

Why OKC has to do that? They don’t need to move up to 1. They will draft whoever available at “2”. They will be happy with either Chet or Smith.

no one said they have to do that & this is just if's and but's game time lol

[Audi]

How about Indy for a trade partner? Something along the lines of #1 for #6 and Tyrese Halliburton. Get our SG of the future and draft Keegan Murray. I'm pretty sure we could ask for more?

[IllMagic04]

I wouldn't want to trade out of the top 3 personally. I see no scenario where OKC is trading 2+12 to move up one spot. So Houston is the only option. If they were willing to move 3 and 17 and a future pick of some kind to move up to 1 I def entertain that. Outside of that no. One thing I do think is interesting is if we are really hot for another player in the lottery we have the assets to trade to get another pick in the top 12. I think Portland 7th pick is in play if we really wanted it.

[JBSouthpaw]

You see how bad OKC wants it.
2 &12 plus a future 1st pick, at least 1, even far out. OKC has a plethora.

That’s the problem, I don’t see okc wanting it so bad. No way they do any of that to move up 1

I kind of agree.

I think if they want it bad enough to do 2 &12, they would want it bad enough for 2 & 12 + a future.
They have SO much future, they can't realistically use it all so I think IF they really want #1 this year, it won't be a future pick holding it up.

[basketballRob]

I'd want the 2 and 12, rights to Micic, Lou Dort, and include Ross.

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[drsd]

Taking 2&12 from OKC giving up 1&32.

Taking who falls at 2 and then at 12 it’s Duren, Mark Williams, Branham, Mathurin

I think OKC is hot for Jabari and may offer the 2 and 12. I still like Johnny Davis if he fell.

If the Magic was to trade #1 for #2 and #12, then trading both SRPs for a late 2023 FRP makes sense. Say to the Warriors of Celts. Either could use rotational depth and the FRP can be top-20 protected.

This would be good asset management, assuming Orlando does not have a preference between Holmgren and Smith.

[Dub_Sax]

Cade and 5 for Suggs and 1..

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[Xatticus]

I would always entertain trading up or down. I keep hearing people say that you want to top pick so that you can select your guy, but that makes little sense to anyone that has studied economics. We aren't dealing in certainties. The goal is to maximize value.

If I were moving back in this draft, it would be for Keegan Murray and additional value. I get that he doesn't have the highest upside in this draft, but he is a guy I want in my locker room. I want him wearing my jersey.

I'd look to move back twice. If Houston is interested in the top pick, I'd move back to three. Then I'd have a sweepstakes for Banchero or Ivey. Moving from 1 to 5 has to get me a couple additional lottery picks.

https://thedatajocks.com/nba-draft-pick-values/

This is obviously a rough approximation. Even if we accept the expected values listed, it's going to vary from draft to draft based on the pool of talent.

I said it in a previous thread though that I would be happy to come out of this draft with Keegan Murray, Dyson Daniels, Mark Williams, and Jalen Williams for our three picks. I'd be very pleased with that haul. Can you make that happen? The picks aren't distributed in such a way that it would be easy. 3 and 17 isn't getting the top pick. They'd need to find a way to get another mid-lottery pick if they want to move up to the top spot.

I will say that if the rumors that came out immediately after we won the lottery are true, then someone screwed up. The entire league shouldn't know within a couple days that you are keeping the pick and taking Jabari unless you are holding up an Orlando Magic jersey with JSJ's name on it. You are playing an information game and handing out information like that is utter stupidity.

[mattdelray1220]

Would you be open to Sabonis and Sharpe for 1? Say we liked Sharpe and still got a forward in Sabonis.

[Ducklett]

I would offer Houston 1 and 35 for 3, 17, and BRK 26. We get Paolo, who I think is better than Chet, 17 to use with 32 to move up, and a lotto ticket in a few years.