Jordan Poole resigned with GSW. Is the system fair?

[MasterGMer]

If Jordan Poole didn't resign with GSW by Oct 18th, then he will enter next Free Agency as a Restricted Free Agent.

I, personally, don't think Warriors is going to pay the 450,000,000 luxury tax by retaining Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Draymond. So someone has to go.

According to Athletics, there are 3 trades proposed by the writer

Warriors receive: Quiten Grimes, 2023 FRP, 2024 First round pick swap, 2025 FRP (MIL via NYK)
New York receive: Jordan Poole

GSW receive: Devin Vassell, 2025 FRP, 2026 FRP Swap
Spurs receive: Jordan Poole

GSW receive: Trey Murphy III, 2023 FRP (Lakers Via NO), 2024 FRP(Lakers via NO)
New Orleans receive: Jordan Poole

According to Warriors, they might resign Jordan Poole and then try to trade him.

I think even Poole enters RFA next summer, GSW is not going to let him go for nothing. So I am thinking of potential Sign and Trade.

Magic was rumored to be one of the teams to pursue Jordan Poole next summer

Which player are you willing to give up and which draft picks will you willing to give up?

Let's start the discussion here

[Skybox]

That Herro deal just threw an interesting financial wrench into any pursuit of young FA guards this summer...bucks!

[jezzerinho]

I think Poole is exactly the kind of guy we shouldn't go for.

We need to aim higher imo and swing for a real star in a trade. Somebody to elevate the whole team. Poole will just be an expensive bump in performance, nothing to transform our trajectory

[Audi]

I think Poole is exactly the kind of guy we shouldn't go for.

We need to aim higher imo and swing for a real star in a trade. Somebody to elevate the whole team. Poole will just be an expensive bump in performance, nothing to transform our trajectory

I could see a world where we went after him but it would rely strongly on making sure last year wasn't a fluke and he can make another leap.

[VFX]

Weltman already said who was on the roster this year and said they aren’t making anymore moves.

[j-ragg]

I think Poole is exactly the kind of guy we shouldn't go for.

We need to aim higher imo and swing for a real star in a trade. Somebody to elevate the whole team. Poole will just be an expensive bump in performance, nothing to transform our trajectory

Who would you suggest? It’s early now but they’d have to use space on someone before our core guys’ rookie deals expire. Almost any young prospect worth a damn is retained by their team, we just have GSW in a unique situation.

I think Poole is the best realistic guard to go after. Maybe someone like FVV but he’s older than our core.

[jonbob17]

If Jordan Poole didn't resign with GSW by Oct 18th, then he will enter next Free Agency as a Restricted Free Agent.

I, personally, don't think Warriors is going to pay the 450,000,000 luxury tax by retaining Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Draymond. So someone has to go.

According to Athletics, there are 3 trades proposed by the writer

Warriors receive: Quiten Grimes, 2023 FRP, 2024 First round pick swap, 2025 FRP (MIL via NYK)
New York receive: Jordan Poole

GSW receive: Devin Vassell, 2025 FRP, 2026 FRP Swap
Spurs receive: Jordan Poole

GSW receive: Trey Murphy III, 2023 FRP (Lakers Via NO), 2024 FRP(Lakers via NO)
New Orleans receive: Jordan Poole

According to Warriors, they might resign Jordan Poole and then try to trade him.

I think even Poole enters RFA next summer, GSW is not going to let him go for nothing. So I am thinking of potential Sign and Trade.

Magic was rumored to be one of the teams to pursue Jordan Poole next summer

Which player are you willing to give up and which draft picks will you willing to give up?

Let's start the discussion here

Those are steep prices. TBH I probably like Davin Vassell more long term, without having to give an additional 2 first round picks from a team entering a rebuild.

Trey Murphy is interesting too. Not sure why he didn't get too much playing time, but seems like a good stretch 4, that eventually might play good D

Poole is a nice player, it's hard to tell how good he is without the Steph effect. Those offers above seem like a Golden State writer proposed to me. If the price is that high, it's a pass.
I do think he will get paid and it should be more than Anfernee Simons $25M per, as Poole seems better at pretty much everything..
I think the question is would you give him a max rookie extension or somewhere near that. Would you give him $30M a year with a 5% escalator? It's a lot. I would not want to give up draft picks for the opportunity to pay to see how good Poole is on a developing team.

I can't see the Warriors matching Poole at a max extension. Maybe...they have all the money....but at some point you have to make good personnel decisions. Rather than just ponying up every single time. What kind of player could Poole plus Wiseman could get? That seems like a better direction for them to head.

These sign and trades are getting ridiculous. There is like no point of free agency anymore.

[HighPack]

Suggs + 2 first round picks (one of ours + Chi or Den)

[zaymon]

If Jordan Poole didn't resign with GSW by Oct 18th, then he will enter next Free Agency as a Restricted Free Agent.

I, personally, don't think Warriors is going to pay the 450,000,000 luxury tax by retaining Wiggins, Jordan Poole and Draymond. So someone has to go.

According to Athletics, there are 3 trades proposed by the writer

Warriors receive: Quiten Grimes, 2023 FRP, 2024 First round pick swap, 2025 FRP (MIL via NYK)
New York receive: Jordan Poole

GSW receive: Devin Vassell, 2025 FRP, 2026 FRP Swap
Spurs receive: Jordan Poole

GSW receive: Trey Murphy III, 2023 FRP (Lakers Via NO), 2024 FRP(Lakers via NO)
New Orleans receive: Jordan Poole

According to Warriors, they might resign Jordan Poole and then try to trade him.

I think even Poole enters RFA next summer, GSW is not going to let him go for nothing. So I am thinking of potential Sign and Trade.

Magic was rumored to be one of the teams to pursue Jordan Poole next summer

Which player are you willing to give up and which draft picks will you willing to give up?

Let's start the discussion here

Those are steep prices. TBH I probably like Davin Vassell more long term, without having to give an additional 2 first round picks from a team entering a rebuild.

Trey Murphy is interesting too. Not sure why he didn't get too much playing time, but seems like a good stretch 4, that eventually might play good D

Poole is a nice player, it's hard to tell how good he is without the Steph effect. Those offers above seem like a Golden State writer proposed to me. If the price is that high, it's a pass.
I do think he will get paid and it should be more than Anfernee Simons $25M per, as Poole seems better at pretty much everything..
I think the question is would you give him a max rookie extension or somewhere near that. Would you give him $30M a year with a 5% escalator? It's a lot. I would not want to give up draft picks for the opportunity to pay to see how good Poole is on a developing team.

I can't see the Warriors matching Poole at a max extension. Maybe...they have all the money....but at some point you have to make good personnel decisions. Rather than just ponying up every single time. What kind of player could Poole plus Wiseman could get? That seems like a better direction for them to head.

These sign and trades are getting ridiculous. There is like no point of free agency anymore.

Its a very steep price, propably unreasonable now, but who knows what will be the price at the deadline if Poole sustains his performance.
Underrated aspect of this is Poole's preference. He says all the right things but i he was training with Paolo during offseason.
GSW old guard is also kind of rough towards Poole. Klay joked about him trying to steal his job, and Draymond extension is also affected by it. I would not be suprised if Poole wanted to start his legace elsewhere, Golden State will always be Steph city, just as Chicago is Michael's city. Orlando seems like good place to build your legace right now.
I dont have good idea what trade makes sense for us and them. They could use wing like Chuma, especially if he starts hot, they could use stretching big like Bamba, or off the dribble guard like Anthony plus some picks.
Spurs wont trade their picks at the start of a rebuild makes no sense. New Orleans have their smaller guard in McCollum. New York will propably try to trade for bigger fish and given their position there is no guarantee Poole wants to stay there. Overall very bad trade ideas.

[VFX]

Suggs + 2 first round picks (one of ours + Chi or Den)

What a crazy overpay for Jordan Poole.

[HighPack]

Suggs + 2 first round picks (one of ours + Chi or Den)

What a crazy overpay for Jordan Poole.

Our 2025 pick will be out of top ten, Chicago pick this year also and we don't need it and Suggs is a dark horse, we have too many.

[VFX]

Suggs + 2 first round picks (one of ours + Chi or Den)

What a crazy overpay for Jordan Poole.

Our 2025 pick will be out of top ten, Chicago pick this year also and we don't need it and Suggs is a dark horse, we have too many.

At that point just throw in Isaac and get an allstar caliber guy.

[Anti Chalmers]

I’d love to get Poole but I think warriors will get rid of Wiggins, Dray, or Klay to keep him.

[jezzerinho]

I’d love to get Poole but I think warriors will get rid of Wiggins, Dray, or Klay to keep him.

If i thought Klay was available, I'd go all in for him. He brings what we lack, scoring, winning culture, maturity. He was drafted at 21 and has just missed 2 seasons so he has comparatively little on the clock compared to other guys his age. I know it was an Achilles injury, but his game isn't based on explosiveness anyway.

Find a good PnR PG (Brogdon would have been ideal) and you're relevant immediately, even if you had to sacrifice one of Wagner/Paolo/Carter to get them.

[zaymon]

I’d love to get Poole but I think warriors will get rid of Wiggins, Dray, or Klay to keep him.

If i thought Klay was available, I'd go all in for him. He brings what we lack, scoring, winning culture, maturity. He was drafted at 21 and has just missed 2 seasons so he has comparatively little on the clock compared to other guys his age. I know it was an Achilles injury, but his game isn't based on explosiveness anyway.

Find a good PnR PG (Brogdon would have been ideal) and you're relevant immediately, even if you had to sacrifice one of Wagner/Paolo/Carter to get them.

You building for the 2019 playoffs or 2025 ? Klay is not the reason GSW won championship, and he would not the be reason for us. We have literally 3 good young players on our team and you want to trade one of them for what exactly ? Chance to be a treadmill ?

[tiderulz]

Suggs + 2 first round picks (one of ours + Chi or Den)

not a chance in ^$%#

[tiderulz]

I’d love to get Poole but I think warriors will get rid of Wiggins, Dray, or Klay to keep him.

If i thought Klay was available, I'd go all in for him. He brings what we lack, scoring, winning culture, maturity. He was drafted at 21 and has just missed 2 seasons so he has comparatively little on the clock compared to other guys his age. I know it was an Achilles injury, but his game isn't based on explosiveness anyway.

Find a good PnR PG (Brogdon would have been ideal) and you're relevant immediately, even if you had to sacrifice one of Wagner/Paolo/Carter to get them.

your reasons are why i would try for Wiggins. he has matured with his 3 years in GS and is now also playing defense while now being a good 3 pt shooter, and no major injury issues. also 5 years younger than Klay (who is soon to be 33)

[tiderulz]

Suggs + 2 first round picks (one of ours + Chi or Den)

What a crazy overpay for Jordan Poole.

Our 2025 pick will be out of top ten, Chicago pick this year also and we don't need it and Suggs is a dark horse, we have too many.

you have no idea about that, especially with Lonzo's injury. Chicago is a team that easily collapse. and we are not guaranteed out of a top-10 pick. you cant predict any of this before the season starts.

[pepe1991]

At the end of a day you will have to cash in money into somebody.

It just depends on who.

Hawks dumped all money into Trae & Collins, menaged to add Bogdan and Capela before it.
76ers were all in on Embiid & Simmons, menaged to wrap Horford & Harris before but capped out quickly.

It's just reality of rebuild. You are on a clock with rookie exstensions, after 3 years of rebuild it's time to pay serious cash or waste your salary cap to resign existing players who are almost never as good as their stats on bad teams would suggest.

Now Poole/ Herro going for $33M a year is brutal , but it seems that's just how salary is being wasted in nba nowdays.

[Knightro]

Weltman already said who was on the roster this year and said they aren’t making anymore moves.

For right now? Absolutely. They're not making any moves at the present time.

I could see things changing at the deadline though.

I think Weltman's had this upcoming trade deadline and offseason circled for a while to make significant changes to the roster.