2023 NBA Draft Thread 2

Post #1 » by **SOUL** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:35 pm

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Skybox · Post #2 » by **Skybox** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 10:39 pm

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#2559 » by RookieStar » Today 4:20 pm

eyriq wrote:
Is Cason Wallace the best college point guard prospect?

Prospect is the correct word.

To your question, probably. He is/was inconsistent in his college career for me, but combine that with his age and PG position, then yeah sure. There are other college PGs better than him for me but they are upperclassmen and they didn't have the same level of teammates that Cason has. Also don't think they are planning to go to the draft this time anyway."

Take one of those guys with the 2rp and see if you strike gold like IND with Nembhard

ogmagicfan · Post #3 » by **ogmagicfan** » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:50 pm

For 2nd rounders there are some archetypes that are drafted as 2nd rounders that succeed in the NBA that I like drafting for

1. Upperclassmen who are penalized for age but clearly have NBA skill

2. International players, particularly ones who aren't properly scouted

3. Players with "conduct issues" but once again, NBA talent is clear

RookieStar · Post #4 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:36 am

Skybox wrote:Re: 2023 NBA Draft Thread
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#2559 » by RookieStar » Today 4:20 pm

eyriq wrote:
Is Cason Wallace the best college point guard prospect?

Prospect is the correct word.

To your question, probably. He is/was inconsistent in his college career for me, but combine that with his age and PG position, then yeah sure. There are other college PGs better than him for me but they are upperclassmen and they didn't have the same level of teammates that Cason has. Also don't think they are planning to go to the draft this time anyway."

Take one of those guys with the 2rp and see if you strike gold like IND with Nembhard

Yeah thats the ideal scenario but as i said, they arent planning to go to the draft ( at least this year ) anyway. So we really can't take them unless we promise a first rounder for them.

You gotta remember the NIL deals being given to these players. Also, let us not forget the "under-the-table" wink wink NIL deals they recieve. They might earn.more in 1 college seasom than being an.unguaranteed 40th pick.

RichCollab · Post #5 » by **RichCollab** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:40 am

ogmagicfan wrote:For 2nd rounders there are some archetypes that are drafted as 2nd rounders that succeed in the NBA that I like drafting for

1. Upperclassmen who are penalized for age but clearly have NBA skill

2. International players, particularly ones who aren't properly scouted

3. Players with "conduct issues" but once again, NBA talent is clear

I’m not sure I want another 3 rookies.

thelead · Post #6 » by **thelead** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 12:56 am

RichCollab wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:For 2nd rounders there are some archetypes that are drafted as 2nd rounders that succeed in the NBA that I like drafting for

1. Upperclassmen who are penalized for age but clearly have NBA skill

2. International players, particularly ones who aren't properly scouted

3. Players with "conduct issues" but once again, NBA talent is clear

I’m not sure I want another 3 rookies.

Why? They don't all have to immediately play... plus, the more you draft the better the likelihood that we hit on a quality player.

Petre1978 · Post #7 » by **Petre1978** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:00 am

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RookieStar · Post #8 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:02 am

thelead wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:For 2nd rounders there are some archetypes that are drafted as 2nd rounders that succeed in the NBA that I like drafting for

1. Upperclassmen who are penalized for age but clearly have NBA skill

2. International players, particularly ones who aren't properly scouted

3. Players with "conduct issues" but once again, NBA talent is clear

I’m not sure I want another 3 rookies.

Why? They don't all have to immediately play... plus, the more you draft the better the likelihood that we hit on a quality player.

Im with this. We draft the 2nd rounders knowing they are a project at worst and a *filler* during the long 82 season wherein wcj and suggs gets injured, at best.

When we finally decide what to do with Chuma, Bol, maybe JI, MoW vs Goga? and etc during contract negotiations, it would be fine for that rookie we drafted and seasoned in Lakeland and practices to take over their spot.

RichCollab · Post #9 » by **RichCollab** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:18 am

RookieStar wrote:
thelead wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
I’m not sure I want another 3 rookies.

Why? They don't all have to immediately play... plus, the more you draft the better the likelihood that we hit on a quality player.

Im with this. We draft the 2nd rounders knowing they are a project at worst and a *filler* during the long 82 season wherein wcj and suggs gets injured, at best.

When we finally decide what to do with Chuma, Bol, maybe JI, MoW vs Goga? and etc during contract negotiations, it would be fine for that rookie we drafted and seasoned in Lakeland and practices to take over their spot.

Im good with that. Houstan didn’t get much time on the court because in my opinion we have so many young players we are trying to develop.

Im fine if Chuma goes if we need a roster spot.

MoW is a 3rd PF/C role for me. Goga could be more but I see him in more of a 3 C role. Im not sure he fits with the switching and pace we play with and our backup center will start 20 games a year.

I give JI the 15th roster spot for now and plan he does absolutely nothing. Zero expectations. If we draft Hendricks or Jarace Walker , I could even see us move on from JI as we would want to give them development time and not sacrifice to get JI back into game shape.

I want to give Bol another season. He was actually one of our healthiest players this year. He is movable for sure and if we draft Grady Dick we may not have minutes for him if Grady plays SF for us. Bol’s beat chance in the NBA is as a matchup scoring nightmare at the SF position. Maybe spot minutes in PF but he can’t play big defense.

Post #10 » by **eyriq** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:25 am

Petre1978 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Grabbing Amen Thompson at 4 and Taylor Hendricks at 11 is dope.

Petre1978 · Post #11 » by **Petre1978** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:18 am

eyriq wrote:
Petre1978 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Grabbing Amen Thompson at 4 and Taylor Hendricks at 11 is dope.

Not a fan of Amen but i would take a chance on Ausar

Petre1978 · Post #12 » by **Petre1978** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:21 am

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Post #13 » by **eyriq** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:06 am

Petre1978 wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Has us taking Miller at 4 and NSJ at 9. I really don't like NSJ at all and hate that he passed on Ausar, Black, Keyonte, and Wallace here.

I don't get the wide gap between Ausar and Amen. I think that's people trying too hard to show their evaluation chops, they are identical players as far as I can see.

DiplomaticMagic · Post #14 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:23 am

I was worried the Bulls pick was too close for comfort, but its going to end up being the 15th pick

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Post #15 » by **Knightro** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:39 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:I was worried the Bulls pick was too close for comfort, but its going to end up being the 15th pick .

Do you think they’re going to win the Eastern Conference play in or what?

They’ll have to win two games in a row, both likely on the road, to finish with the 15th pick.

More likely they get KO’d in the play-in and the pick ends up like 9th or 10th.

RichCollab · Post #16 » by **RichCollab** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 4:55 am

Knightro wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:I was worried the Bulls pick was too close for comfort, but its going to end up being the 15th pick .

Do you think they’re going to win the Eastern Conference play in or what?

They’ll have to win two games in a row, both likely on the road, to finish with the 15th pick.

More likely they get KO’d in the play-in and the pick ends up like 9th or 10th.

Im good as long as it’s top 12 though 9/10 is probably where Grady ends up.

Bulls are definitely looking sharper though and could make things interesting.

thelead · Post #17 » by **thelead** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:12 am

Knightro wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:I was worried the Bulls pick was too close for comfort, but its going to end up being the 15th pick .

Do you think they’re going to win the Eastern Conference play in or what?

They’ll have to win two games in a row, both likely on the road, to finish with the 15th pick.

More likely they get KO’d in the play-in and the pick ends up like 9th or 10th.

I've watched 3 or 4 of their games over the last two weeks... if they keep playing like they have been recently, yeah, I can (see them winning both games when we're talking about beating the likes of Brooklyn (lost 3 in a row) and Atlanta (lost 3 of last 4).

Orl_Magic · Post #18 » by **Orl_Magic** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:34 am

Cam Whitmore could be a star SG. Would like to pick him up.

DiplomaticMagic · Post #19 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 6:57 am

Knightro wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:I was worried the Bulls pick was too close for comfort, but its going to end up being the 15th pick .

Do you think they’re going to win the Eastern Conference play in or what?

They’ll have to win two games in a row, both likely on the road, to finish with the 15th pick.

More likely they get KO’d in the play-in and the pick ends up like 9th or 10th.

Yes I can see it very easily actually. 7 to 10 seeds are very weak and flawed.

drsd · Post #20 » by **drsd** » Tue Mar 21, 2023 7:37 am

Chicago now has three straigt wins against probable post season teams and is curretny 2 gaes up on the Wizards. Indeed, if Orlando beats Washington today,. this nearly cements the Bulls as a play-in team.

Knightro wrote:
DiplomaticMagic wrote:I was worried the Bulls pick was too close for comfort, but its going to end up being the 15th pick .

Do you think they’re going to win the Eastern Conference play in or what?

They’ll have to win two games in a row, both likely on the road, to finish with the 15th pick.

More likely they get KO’d in the play-in and the pick ends up like 9th or 10th.

Let's say Chicago is the 10 seed, then the first game is probably on the road against Toronto, Vegas would have that game around a +150, or a 40% to win.

Then the Bulls would probably play the loser of the Hawks / Heat. Let's say it is the Hawks on the road at a +100, or a 50% chance to win (these are Vegas odds from past equivalent games). The the odds of winning both road games is 20%. In the likely event the Bulls fail to make the playoffs, the pick would revert to the lottery and be the #10. It is possible to be the #11, dependent on the outcome of some western standings.