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Post#1 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:20 pm

Depending on where ORL lands in the draft, they will obviously draft different players. Which draftees could trigger an immediate trade conversation? What will the "type" be that the suddenly available Magic player might be traded for? Specific reasonable targets would be nice - if you have them.

For Example...If we land at #1 and draft Wemby, does WCJ suddenly become available to be moved for that scoring guard we need? Simons.

*I'd say not necessarily as WCJ could be a fantastic bench player at 4/5 and be a good foil for Wemby's less physical style and skinny (for now at least) frame. WCJ is fantastic depth on a good deal. I wouldn't cling to him, but it'd have to be a really solid target. I'd go straight up for Anfernee Simons, but perhaps would see who we get with CHI pick first.

Scoot...IMO, Fultz is immediately available for trade/cap relief - before his extension conversation comes up and destroys any trade value he MAY even have. If Weltman drafted Amen or even Cason Wallace with the belief that they are starting PG material - Same. Even if the rook isn't ready, I'd get by with Cole or Suggs holding down the spot until mid-season.

I don't see any others who immediately trigger a trade except any number of SG's that might trigger a trade or even decline team option of Gary Harris (Harris could actual have some trade value to a contender on a budget).
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#2 » by Audi » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:32 pm

If we were to draft Scoot, do you see him as a first option, second, or third? Fourth behind WCJ? I see him as more of a Ja-type first option… so if we’re looking for someone to simply fill Fultz’s current role as 3rd or 4th, we might as well just draft someone else, especially since Scoot isn’t bringing perimeter shooting to the table.
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#3 » by Petre1978 » Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:46 pm

Audi wrote:If we were to draft Scoot, do you see him as a first option, second, or third? Fourth behind WCJ? I see him as more of a Ja-type first option… so if we’re looking for someone to simply fill Fultz’s current role as 3rd or 4th, we might as well just draft someone else, especially since Scoot isn’t bringing perimeter shooting to the table.

I would take Wallace
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#4 » by tiderulz » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:08 pm

Skybox wrote:Depending on where ORL lands in the draft, they will obviously draft different players. Which draftees could trigger an immediate trade conversation? What will the "type" be that the suddenly available Magic player might be traded for? Specific reasonable targets would be nice - if you have them.

For Example...If we land at #1 and draft Wemby, does WCJ suddenly become available to be moved for that scoring guard we need? Simons.

*I'd say not necessarily as WCJ could be a fantastic bench player at 4/5 and be a good foil for Wemby's less physical style and skinny (for now at least) frame. WCJ is fantastic depth on a good deal. I wouldn't cling to him, but it'd have to be a really solid target. I'd go straight up for Anfernee Simons, but perhaps would see who we get with CHI pick first.

Scoot...IMO, Fultz is immediately available for trade/cap relief - before his extension conversation comes up and destroys any trade value he MAY even have. If Weltman drafted Amen or even Cason Wallace with the belief that they are starting PG material - Same. Even if the rook isn't ready, I'd get by with Cole or Suggs holding down the spot until mid-season.

I don't see any others who immediately trigger a trade except any number of SG's that might trigger a trade or even decline team option of Gary Harris (Harris could actual have some trade value to a contender on a budget).

I see Wemby off the bench as he needs to build his body to handle the NBA
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#5 » by fendilim » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:46 pm

I dont see us immediately trading WCJ if we get Wemby. In fact, I think for the money we are paying WCJ, I wouldnt be surprised if we dont move him until before the year his contract expires.

Drafting a PG will result to a trade.

I even think Chicago pick might even be traded to a couple of future 1sts.
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#6 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:57 pm

fendilim wrote:I dont see us immediately trading WCJ if we get Wemby. In fact, I think for the money we are paying WCJ, I wouldnt be surprised if we dont move him until before the year his contract expires.

Drafting a PG will result to a trade.

I even think Chicago pick might even be traded to a couple of future 1sts.


I actually feel better about the gang around the area of the CHI pick than I do about those projected around 4-7. I really hope we keep it...IF there's a trade, it better be for a body who can play, not a "kick it down the road-can't blame us, we didn't make a bad pick" move
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Post#7 » by BCS » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:57 pm

fendilim wrote:I dont see us immediately trading WCJ if we get Wemby. In fact, I think for the money we are paying WCJ, I wouldnt be surprised if we dont move him until before the year his contract expires.

Drafting a PG will result to a trade.

I even think Chicago pick might even be traded to a couple of future 1sts.
We do not need to get rid of WCJ if we land Wemby. A 3 big rotation of Paolo, WCJ and Wemby at the 4 and 5 works perfectly with enough minutes for all. Having said that if BRK comes calling interested in a Paolo for Mikal trade or any similar trades, I'd strongly have to take it into consideration at least.

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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#8 » by Ralof » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:12 pm

No one,just maybe gary harris if you land one between amen thompson and henderson.
strength this team has it's how long roster is,how many at least decent guys we have to put on the floor.

you sacrifice that just in a trade for a more ready bigger player,not for rookies.
you still have time to figure rotation,minutes,positions,ecc. and to make a trade until february deadline.
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Post#9 » by Skin » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:33 pm

If we get Wemby....

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Post#10 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:34 pm

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fendilim wrote:I dont see us immediately trading WCJ if we get Wemby. In fact, I think for the money we are paying WCJ, I wouldnt be surprised if we dont move him until before the year his contract expires.

Drafting a PG will result to a trade.

I even think Chicago pick might even be traded to a couple of future 1sts.
We do not need to get rid of WCJ if we land Wemby. A 3 big rotation of Paolo, WCJ and Wemby at the 4 and 5 works perfectly with enough minutes for all. Having said that if BRK comes calling interested in a Paolo for Mikal trade or any similar trades, I'd strongly have to take it into consideration at least.

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Maybe it's just your choice of words, but we clearly don't "need" to get rid of anyone...it's more a matter of opportunity to upgrade at another position because we're overstocked at another spot...IF Isaac would just get it together, he'd be an awesome 6th man, first big backing up 3/4/5...WCJ could also move around and create advantageous matchups, but we also need to get serious about our backcourt someday.
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Post#11 » by VFX » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:55 pm

Wemby - Carter obviously

Miller/Dick/Hawkins/George - Harris

Cason Wallace - move Fultz and avoid paying him huge money in a year.

Scoot Henderson - Same situation.

Orlando could draft Hendricks, Whitmore, or Sensabaugh and I don’t think they’d need to move anyone. Probably just won’t play Okeke or Admiral.
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Post#12 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:16 pm

MagicMatic wrote:Wemby - Carter obviously

Miller/Dick/Hawkins/George - Harris

Cason Wallace - move Fultz and avoid paying him huge money in a year.

Scoot Henderson - Same situation.

Orlando could draft Hendricks, Whitmore, or Sensabaugh and I don’t think they’d need to move anyone. Probably just won’t play Okeke or Admiral.


Shocked they picked up Okeke’s option, dude is mediocre as ****.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#13 » by RookieStar » Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:05 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Wemby - Carter obviously

Miller/Dick/Hawkins/George - Harris

Cason Wallace - move Fultz and avoid paying him huge money in a year.

Scoot Henderson - Same situation.

Orlando could draft Hendricks, Whitmore, or Sensabaugh and I don’t think they’d need to move anyone. Probably just won’t play Okeke or Admiral.


Shocked they picked up Okeke’s option, dude is mediocre as ****.


Yeah.. dude fell off quickly. If you based Okeke on how we produced in college.. he would be the perfect backup F to our 2 studs. We would draft him top 10. His injuries?
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#14 » by Knightro » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:11 am

I'm fascinated to see what the Magic would do if they're in a position to draft Henderson.

Because unlike Black, Wallace and Thompson - Henderson doesn't seem like an option to play off the ball whatsoever.

But Henderson would also almost assuredly be worse in his rookie year then Fultz or Anthony.

Would the Magic bite the bullet and accept his growing pains knowing that it might cost them potentially a lot of wins?

Or would they keep their point guard group as is and try and hedge against Henderson's inevitable rookie struggles?
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Post#15 » by Skybox » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:33 am

Knightro wrote:I'm fascinated to see what the Magic would do if they're in a position to draft Henderson.

Because unlike Black, Wallace and Thompson - Henderson doesn't seem like an option to play off the ball whatsoever.

But Henderson would also almost assuredly be worse in his rookie year then Fultz or Anthony.

Would the Magic bite the bullet and accept his growing pains knowing that it might cost them potentially a lot of wins?

Or would they keep their point guard group as is and try and hedge against Henderson's inevitable rookie struggles?



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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#16 » by zaymon » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:47 am

I will be a little controversial, cant help it its my nature.
Draft Wembenyama- trade Wembenyama
Draft Henderson- trade Henderson

Those two are worth the most and we need their skill set the least. Wembenyama is a freak but i doubt he will be switchable at 7'5 He is also not a good shooter and has propably more injury risk than Chet.
Henderson is midrange scorer, Fultz 2.0. Not a good fit with any of our players outside Carter.
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#17 » by Furinkazan » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:38 pm

fendilim wrote:I dont see us immediately trading WCJ if we get Wemby. In fact, I think for the money we are paying WCJ, I wouldnt be surprised if we dont move him until before the year his contract expires.

Drafting a PG will result to a trade.

I even think Chicago pick might even be traded to a couple of future 1sts.

more like 5 2nds and CASH CONSIDERATIONS
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Post#18 » by drsd » Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:15 pm

My views assume that there is no circumstance where G-Harris is brought back.

If Wembanyama is drafted, the Magic play a PG and 4 bigs. What other choice is there as Carter is not going to be traded for a rookie to suck (all rookies suck). The Magic is going to go for 41 wins next season. That's just how it is.
Fultz/F-Wagner/Banchero/Wembanyama/Carter
The decision what to do will be made around the ASW. This roster cannot be maintained long-term.

If Miller is drafted, the Magic will play start him at SG/SF, with F-Wagner doing the same.
Fultz/F-Wagner/Miller/Banchero/Carter. A boom or bust roster.

If Henderson is drafted, there goes any hope of a 41-win season.
Fultz/Henderson/F-Wagner/Banchero/Carter. Yuck. But in 2024/25, the Magic can move Henderson to the lead guard and look to a roster revamp.

If any other player is drafted, the play off of the bench. Orlando will not start a rookie just because. Under this scenario, the Magic bring in a MLE-type SG.

Frankly, with the Magic's depth, a lot of rookie prospects in the 7-12 range will be a 3rd stringer early next season.
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#19 » by thelead » Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:26 pm

zaymon wrote:I will be a little controversial, cant help it its my nature.
Draft Wembenyama- trade Wembenyama
Draft Henderson- trade Henderson

Those two are worth the most and we need their skill set the least. Wembenyama is a freak but i doubt he will be switchable at 7'5 He is also not a good shooter and has propably more injury risk than Chet.
Henderson is midrange scorer, Fultz 2.0. Not a good fit with any of our players outside Carter.

If we win the 1st pick, I would be calling Mark Cuban immediately :lol:
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Re: Draft this then trade that 

Post#20 » by fendilim » Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:01 pm

zaymon wrote:I will be a little controversial, cant help it its my nature.
Draft Wembenyama- trade Wembenyama
Draft Henderson- trade Henderson

Those two are worth the most and we need their skill set the least. Wembenyama is a freak but i doubt he will be switchable at 7'5 He is also not a good shooter and has propably more injury risk than Chet.
Henderson is midrange scorer, Fultz 2.0. Not a good fit with any of our players outside Carter.

Would rather trade Paolo if we get wemby
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