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Jordan Poole or, maybe even Giannis? 

Post#1 » by MasterGMer » Sat May 13, 2023 4:01 am

I am still watching this Lakers vs Warriors now with Lakers' 17 point league in the 3rd Quarter.

Golden State Warriors has the most expensive roster in the league. Can they sustain their rotation? Draymond Green will be a Free Agent, but Magic doesn't need him.

Actually, Orlando Magic Daily has proposed two trades to make it work:

1. Gary Harris
Jonathan Isaac
DEN FRP in 2025

Anthony lamb
Jordan Poole

2. Markelle Fultz
Jonathan Isaac

Jordan Poole

I know many Orlando fans do not like Poole with his inefficient play this season. Some even criticized him with a low Basketball IQ (I do not know that). But Poole has enough scoring and offense. He averaged about 20.4 ppg this past regular season with 4.5 Assists per game.

If Orlando's guard rotation is constantly being judged and criticized, why not try a guy like Jordan Poole?

The biggest problem is how would Jordan Poole coexists well with Paolo and Franz. All 3 are 20 point scorers in the league. The offense we gonna have is going to be insane.

But Poole needs to improve his efficiency while become a better defender. I do not see how it would not work. The trade is a win for Magic.

I think GSW is going to dump him if they lose to Lakers

I am also a person who'd like Magic to explore Giannis Antetokumpo trade. Bill Simmons has mentioned in his podcast a couple days ago saying Magic has all it takes to make the trade work. (We have the young guys and we have all of our FRPs in the next decade plus Magic has the cap space)

But every trade to work for Giannis would very likely to include a lot of assets we have. But getting a guy like Giannis would instantly make us a title contender.

This summer is going to be insane!
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Post#2 » by RichCollab » Sat May 13, 2023 4:20 am

Poole? Did you look at his contract? LOL. Fultz?
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Post#3 » by VFX » Sat May 13, 2023 5:08 am

Absolutely the **** not.
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Post#4 » by MasterGMer » Sat May 13, 2023 5:27 am

MagicMatic wrote:Absolutely the **** not.

I know he has had a bad playoff series. He was not inconsistent but bad stretch.

He is still a 20 ppg scorer.

Would he be an upgrade over Gary Harris?


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Post#5 » by Rainwater » Sat May 13, 2023 5:30 am

I remember saying I would before he resigned but that would have been a terrible decision.
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Post#6 » by MasterGMer » Sat May 13, 2023 6:11 am

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2023/05/12/improving-jordan-poole-trade-idea-orlando-magic/

Here is the link from Orlando Magic Daily. I read it this morning.

I wasn’t so brought into Jordan Poole earlier either.

But he wouldn’t cost that much if we trade Gary Harris or JI.

He might had a disappointing year. But I am just posting an option. Maybe we can try. He can be an upgrade over Harris and Suggs at 2

Also, I am into this Austin Reaves option also.

I think this summer is very huge for us Magic fans. Hope we have some surprises

Three days left! Can’t wait!
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Post#7 » by fendilim » Sat May 13, 2023 7:35 am

I think with the Warriors’ loss, it is more likely they move one of the big 3 and retain Poole. It would be incredibly hard, close to impossible, to improve their team if they don’t move one of the big 3. They are financially strapped, and almost impossible to improve their team anymore with the new CBA. No MLE and not allowed to acquire players from the buyout market.
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Post#8 » by MasterGMer » Sat May 13, 2023 7:52 am

fendilim wrote:I think with the Warriors’ loss, it is more likely they move one of the big 3 and retain Poole. It would be incredibly hard, close to impossible, to improve their team if they don’t move one of the big 3. They are financially strapped, and almost impossible to improve their team anymore with the new CBA. No MLE and not allowed to acquire players from the buyout market.


I read a report stating that Warriors still think their Championship window is not yet closed. They still have a Top 10 player in Curry.

They'd like to resign Draymond and possibly trade Poole and Kuminga. They are also talking about Bob Myles succeeder.

Also another thing to pay attention to is that Jaylen Brown wants a max contract extension. Or he'd like to be traded. Could Boston afford two Super Max contract in Tatum and Brown?

Maybe Magic could get in to the discussion?

Before this past season, nobody thought Branson was going to NYK and nobody thought Donovan Mitchell was going to Cleveland. Plus Kyrie to Dallas and KD to the Suns.

There are possibly plenty of moves this upcoming offseason. We have to be alert. We have to explore options.

Can't wait for the Summer
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Post#9 » by Ralof » Sat May 13, 2023 8:23 am

Poole would be a great punishment for this fixation on scoring at all cost.

like should be Bouknight,but in that case we avoided the disaster.
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Post#10 » by JTG_92940618 » Sat May 13, 2023 11:00 am

The Jordan Poole situation is like the chicken and the egg - Did he suck this season because Draymond punches him or did Draymond punch him because he sucked in camp?

Because if he sulked all season after being clocked, I wouldn't blame him. On the other hand, if he came into training camp and didn't buy in after getting paid, I wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole.

Unfortunately, as a mere fan, there's no way to work out which scenario it actually is.
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Post#11 » by cedric76 » Sat May 13, 2023 11:49 am

Poole is a very talented offensive player with zero defense and zero IQ

A big no no
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Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
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Post#12 » by Skybox » Sat May 13, 2023 12:23 pm

Poole would electrify ORL…he’s not perfect, but he’s universally acknowledged by his teammates to be the hardest worker on GSW, he’s been there and actually done big things, and HE’s 23! GSW is floundering but clinging to their trio of super vets (when only one is still playing like a star every night). Poole is a bad fit there, but he’s a proven scorer- even in the shadow of THE proven scorer. Change of scenery, younger team, bigger role in ORL with a guy like Suggs next to him taking the tough backcourt assignment.

Fultz & Harris could both help GSW with their profiles and with financial flexibility. Add the DEN 25 when we are reminded how potent Poole has been in his young career- despite recent struggles. I expect Cole to have issues with 6th man extension, so; Cole & Okeke to MIN for Kyle Anderson’s vet leadership and all-around heady, tough play.

Poole, Cason Wallace(#11), 2rp
Suggs, Divincenzo(FA?)
Franz, Slo-Mo, Houstan
Paolo, Wallace (#6), Isaac
WCJ, Goga, M. Wagner

Giannis is a non-starter…that would decimate our roster to the point it would make no sense to him or ORL
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Post#13 » by KillMonger » Sat May 13, 2023 1:12 pm

cedric76 wrote:Poole is a very talented offensive player with zero defense and zero IQ

A big no no

among the worst i've seen....so many defensive misques i wondered how he was getting minutes
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Post#14 » by cedric76 » Sat May 13, 2023 2:01 pm

KillMonger wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Poole is a very talented offensive player with zero defense and zero IQ

A big no no

among the worst i've seen....so many defensive misques i wondered how he was getting minutes


Very very talented never the less, but no iq.

As I always say, the worst for a player, is when they r trying to be the player they r not.

Poole believes he is the next Curry
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
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Post#15 » by tiderulz » Sat May 13, 2023 2:17 pm

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MagicMatic wrote:Absolutely the **** not.

I know he has had a bad playoff series. He was not inconsistent but bad stretch.

He is still a 20 ppg scorer.

Would he be an upgrade over Gary Harris?


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but is he a 20 ppg scorer in GSW's system? is he more inefficient away from it?

he is not the player i would move for.
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Post#16 » by tiderulz » Sat May 13, 2023 2:18 pm

MasterGMer wrote:https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2023/05/12/improving-jordan-poole-trade-idea-orlando-magic/

Here is the link from Orlando Magic Daily. I read it this morning.

I wasn’t so brought into Jordan Poole earlier either.

But he wouldn’t cost that much if we trade Gary Harris or JI.

He might had a disappointing year. But I am just posting an option. Maybe we can try. He can be an upgrade over Harris and Suggs at 2

Also, I am into this Austin Reaves option also.

I think this summer is very huge for us Magic fans. Hope we have some surprises

Three days left! Can’t wait!

I like Reaves vs Poole. Poole may be more of a scorer, but Reaves is a more complete player.
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Post#17 » by jonbob17 » Sat May 13, 2023 2:50 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2023/05/12/improving-jordan-poole-trade-idea-orlando-magic/

Here is the link from Orlando Magic Daily. I read it this morning.

I wasn’t so brought into Jordan Poole earlier either.

But he wouldn’t cost that much if we trade Gary Harris or JI.

He might had a disappointing year. But I am just posting an option. Maybe we can try. He can be an upgrade over Harris and Suggs at 2

Also, I am into this Austin Reaves option also.

I think this summer is very huge for us Magic fans. Hope we have some surprises

Three days left! Can’t wait!

I like Reaves vs Poole. Poole may be more of a scorer, but Reaves is a more complete player.


Yah, I like Reaves. I'd much rather give him $25M a year than Poole's $32. I don't know what the max we could pay Reaves. I am assuming there are a lot of teams that want Reaves right now. But there are not a lot of teams with capspace.
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Post#18 » by JF5 » Sat May 13, 2023 3:30 pm

KillMonger wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Poole is a very talented offensive player with zero defense and zero IQ

A big no no

among the worst i've seen....so many defensive misques i wondered how he was getting minutes


Absolutely terrible BBIQ... Ironically I don't think he's a starting level player because of it even though he's absolutely talented. Reminds me of JR Smith...
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Post#19 » by basketballRob » Sat May 13, 2023 3:38 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2023/05/12/improving-jordan-poole-trade-idea-orlando-magic/

Here is the link from Orlando Magic Daily. I read it this morning.

I wasn’t so brought into Jordan Poole earlier either.

But he wouldn’t cost that much if we trade Gary Harris or JI.

He might had a disappointing year. But I am just posting an option. Maybe we can try. He can be an upgrade over Harris and Suggs at 2

Also, I am into this Austin Reaves option also.

I think this summer is very huge for us Magic fans. Hope we have some surprises

Three days left! Can’t wait!

I like Reaves vs Poole. Poole may be more of a scorer, but Reaves is a more complete player.


Yah, I like Reaves. I'd much rather give him $25M a year than Poole's $32. I don't know what the max we could pay Reaves. I am assuming there are a lot of teams that want Reaves right now. But there are not a lot of teams with capspace.
The max we can pay Reaves is $98M for 4-yrs because of the Arenas rule.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lakers-austin-reaves-is-making-a-leap-but-gilbert-arenas-rule-may-make-it-hard-for-la-to-pay-him-for-it/#:~:text=This%20is%20the%20infamous%20Gilbert,offer%20sheet%20with%20another%20team.
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Post#20 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat May 13, 2023 3:42 pm

Who are we giving up for Giannis? That’s a fair question because how do we retool if we have to give up all of our key players to get him. No way Franz and Paolo still on this team if we were to get Giannis.

As for Poole, no.
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