ImageImageImageImage

Vuc coming home

Moderators: ChosenSavior, UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass

Petre1978
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,790
And1: 431
Joined: Oct 31, 2021
Location: Germany
   

Vuc coming home 

Post#1 » by Petre1978 » Fri May 19, 2023 5:35 am

Read on Twitter
yoyojw17
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,812
And1: 3,442
Joined: Dec 26, 2011
Location: Gainesville,FL
 

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#2 » by yoyojw17 » Fri May 19, 2023 5:58 am

Petre1978 wrote:
Read on Twitter


well.... damn. I would be down... not gonna lie. Sorry Mo. lol

this will help with one of my concerns and bring another dimension to the middle as we don't have a post presence.... if true.

and damn would that be the biggest heist. He got us possibly 3 magic players (crossing fingers for another great draft) and ends up leaving chicago to come back. lol

mix this with pickups of ausar thompson and gradey dick.... that's a great offseason. JI come back please..... annnnnnnd i would be comfortable saying the playoff are in sight.
User avatar
thelead
RealGM
Posts: 46,182
And1: 29,924
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
 

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#3 » by thelead » Fri May 19, 2023 6:31 am

Not sure I buy the rumor but I mentioned this as a possibility a while ago… it makes too much sense for Vuc. I was okay with it months ago but the more I watch the bulls down the end of the season… man, I don’t think I could stomach his defense anymore. I guess it depends what the contract looks like.
Image
User avatar
drsd
RealGM
Posts: 39,039
And1: 8,895
Joined: Mar 16, 2003
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#4 » by drsd » Fri May 19, 2023 6:41 am

Before we all get too excited, a "discount deal" is probably something in the 4 for 70M range.

Vučević is still an outstanding rebounder and an efficient scorer. To sign with Orlando, this would be about ensuring salary many years from now.

That said, would I rather the Magic sign Vučević on a declining contract 70M: 25/20/15/10 or M-Wagner on a 4 for 50M contract, that's a super easy choice of Vučević.
Petre1978
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,790
And1: 431
Joined: Oct 31, 2021
Location: Germany
   

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#5 » by Petre1978 » Fri May 19, 2023 6:54 am

drsd wrote:Before we all get too excited, a "discount deal" is probably something in the 4 for 70M range.

Vučević is still an outstanding rebounder and an efficient scorer. To sign with Orlando, this would be about ensuring salary many years from now.

That said, would I rather the Magic sign Vučević on a declining contract 70M: 25/20/15/10 or M-Wagner on a 4 for 50M contract, that's a super easy choice of Vučević.

Rather have Moritz to keep Franz happy.
User avatar
KillMonger
RealGM
Posts: 20,580
And1: 11,138
Joined: Oct 13, 2012
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#6 » by KillMonger » Fri May 19, 2023 7:11 am

Would be awesome....some posters didn't really like vuc when he was here....i appreciated him because he basically a throw in wasting away on doug collins bench in philly...nobody really expected anything from him and he turned himself into an above average player in the league....he also wasn't a player trying to get out of here or force their way out he really appreciated and loved the city and the people here...If the price works, Vuc makes us better
Image
Bensational
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 31,280
And1: 13,734
Joined: Apr 10, 2001
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#7 » by Bensational » Fri May 19, 2023 7:24 am

If it’s for the same price as Wendell sign me up for sure.

Having Vuc off the bench and to cover the 20-odd games Wendell is likely to miss will be good. He’ll destroy backup C’s and give us a big boost off the bench.

If Isaac got healthy and joined him off the bench - forget about it. Depth for days and an answer for everything.
yoyojw17
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,812
And1: 3,442
Joined: Dec 26, 2011
Location: Gainesville,FL
 

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#8 » by yoyojw17 » Fri May 19, 2023 7:24 am

KillMonger wrote:Would be awesome....some posters didn't really like vuc when he was here....i appreciated him because he basically a throw in wasting away on doug collins bench in philly...nobody really expected anything from him and he turned himself into an above average player in the league....he also wasn't a player trying to get out of here or force their way out he really appreciated and loved the city and the people here...If the price works, Vuc makes us better

Yup. I agree with you on this one. He has his defensive shortcomings that needed to reinforced.... But he cared about the city and played his hardest... Getting better every year.

And I doubt they would pay him more that the starting center... Who is on a great contract. Who knows. But as a BACKUP.... Geez.... He's gifting us some quality bigman play and veteran leadership off the bench.

Haha... And if people want mo to stay... Obviously they don't care about defense either. And yes... The Franz/mo thing is something that we will all think about... But I think they'll be fine. Franz has established himself in this league... But I know he'll miss his roommate.
User avatar
Blue_and_Whte
RealGM
Posts: 24,650
And1: 9,548
Joined: Jun 26, 2009
Location: Orlando, FL.
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#9 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri May 19, 2023 8:19 am

Instantaneous improvement. What a fantastic move if this is true.
Faith, Family, & Orlando Magic
#2A
#Adopt
#MAGA
User avatar
shadrock
Head Coach
Posts: 6,157
And1: 3,634
Joined: Oct 16, 2009
   

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#10 » by shadrock » Fri May 19, 2023 8:58 am

Not sure i like it. Hes not a winner. Not him specifically, but his profile of a player. You just cant have plodding centers who clog the paint on offense and dont protect the rim on defense in a winning team. MAYBE if he were to come off the bench and at absolute bargain bin prices, but i dont imagine he will do that.
Image
Skin
RealGM
Posts: 18,514
And1: 8,804
Joined: Jul 03, 2009
   

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#11 » by Skin » Fri May 19, 2023 9:08 am

I honestly don't think he's capable of being a bench player, but if he is, he's welcomed. Bye Bye Mo Wagner, Bol Bol
cedric76
RealGM
Posts: 16,213
And1: 3,713
Joined: May 28, 2005

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#12 » by cedric76 » Fri May 19, 2023 9:24 am

Trade 6+11 for vassell+33

Package 33+35 to move up and draft podziemski

WCJ,vuc,moe
Paolo, WCJ, JI,chuma
Franz, vassell , chuma,bol
Vassell,suggs, Cole, Harris ,podziemski
Fultz,suggs, Cole
Suggs, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, Jett
Franz, TDS,
P5, JI, Panda
Wcj, Goga, Moe
User avatar
shadrock
Head Coach
Posts: 6,157
And1: 3,634
Joined: Oct 16, 2009
   

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#13 » by shadrock » Fri May 19, 2023 9:33 am

Skin wrote:I honestly don't think he's capable of being a bench player, but if he is, he's welcomed. Bye Bye Mo Wagner, Bol Bol


Id prefer Moe Wagner 10 times over. He hustles, plays D, accepts his bench role. Why do we want to replace him with Vuc, who does none of these things? People here seriously underrate Moe Wagner. Not to mention HES FRANZ BROTHER! You dont see Milwaukee trading Giannis brother elsewhere.
Image
JT3000
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,808
And1: 470
Joined: Nov 03, 2004
Location: Orlando

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#14 » by JT3000 » Fri May 19, 2023 9:50 am

Petre1978 wrote:
drsd wrote:Before we all get too excited, a "discount deal" is probably something in the 4 for 70M range.

Vučević is still an outstanding rebounder and an efficient scorer. To sign with Orlando, this would be about ensuring salary many years from now.

That said, would I rather the Magic sign Vučević on a declining contract 70M: 25/20/15/10 or M-Wagner on a 4 for 50M contract, that's a super easy choice of Vučević.

Rather have Moritz to keep Franz happy.


This is a basketball team, not a foster home. If they want to stay together, they better hope Mo can keep up.
basketballRob
RealGM
Posts: 36,281
And1: 14,245
Joined: May 05, 2014
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#15 » by basketballRob » Fri May 19, 2023 9:59 am

cedric76 wrote:Trade 6+11 for vassell+33

Package 33+35 to move up and draft podziemski

WCJ,vuc,moe
Paolo, WCJ, JI,chuma
Franz, vassell , chuma,bol
Vassell,suggs, Cole, Harris ,podziemski
Fultz,suggs, Cole
Vassell had knee surgery last season, but it looked minor. I would take a hard look before I gave two lottery picks.

Sent from my SM-G781U using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
RookieStar
RealGM
Posts: 27,170
And1: 7,771
Joined: Jul 01, 2009
 

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#16 » by RookieStar » Fri May 19, 2023 10:03 am

shadrock wrote:Not sure i like it. Hes not a winner. Not him specifically, but his profile of a player. You just cant have plodding centers who clog the paint on offense and dont protect the rim on defense in a winning team. MAYBE if he were to come off the bench and at absolute bargain bin prices, but i dont imagine he will do that.


But it specifically says he will take a bargain discount contract AND take a backup lower minutes role.

Also.. clog the paint? This dude chucks 3s more than wcj even if it sometimes not advisable to do so.
User avatar
RookieStar
RealGM
Posts: 27,170
And1: 7,771
Joined: Jul 01, 2009
 

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#17 » by RookieStar » Fri May 19, 2023 10:05 am

Skin wrote:I honestly don't think he's capable of being a bench player, but if he is, he's welcomed. Bye Bye Mo Wagner, Bol Bol


Naaaah.MoeW ia still needed. Bolbol and okeke are sent packing while the regular 20game miss of wcj plus the unreliability of JI means MoeW and Vuc is practically needed.
basketballRob
RealGM
Posts: 36,281
And1: 14,245
Joined: May 05, 2014
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#18 » by basketballRob » Fri May 19, 2023 10:07 am

RookieStar wrote:
shadrock wrote:Not sure i like it. Hes not a winner. Not him specifically, but his profile of a player. You just cant have plodding centers who clog the paint on offense and dont protect the rim on defense in a winning team. MAYBE if he were to come off the bench and at absolute bargain bin prices, but i dont imagine he will do that.


But it specifically says he will take a bargain discount contract AND take a backup lower minutes role.

Also.. clog the paint? This dude chucks 3s more than wcj even if it sometimes not advisable to do so.
When we talk about discounts, I don't think he'd take more than like $1 or $2m less per season. $2m would really be pushing it because that would be $8m for 4-yrs. I think he'd tough it out in a place he didn't like for $8m.

Sent from my SM-G781U using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
drsd
RealGM
Posts: 39,039
And1: 8,895
Joined: Mar 16, 2003
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#19 » by drsd » Fri May 19, 2023 10:28 am

Skin wrote:I honestly don't think he's capable of being a bench player, but if he is, he's welcomed. Bye Bye Mo Wagner, Bol Bol


Orlando won't find better 3rd stringers in the G-league. So: for continuities sake, I think it is fine for both to take the Chris Duhan roll of high-paid cheerleading.


..
basketballRob
RealGM
Posts: 36,281
And1: 14,245
Joined: May 05, 2014
     

Re: Vuc coming home 

Post#20 » by basketballRob » Fri May 19, 2023 10:30 am

Wendell Carter is currently better than Vuc. He isn't a big shot blocker, but he's effective.

https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=vucevni01&p1yrfrom=2023&player_id2=cartewe01&p2yrfrom=2023

Sent from my SM-G781U using RealGM mobile app

Return to Orlando Magic